What are some unusual devotions that you have encountered?
There is a statue of the Christ Child in Mexico called El Niño Dios Cieguito . The story says a thief broke into the church where the image was located and stole it along with other treasures. The statue supposedly came alive and the thief destroyed it. A few days later they found the broken statue and repaired it but they never found the eyes.
(https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-HgPU9hFm4Nk%2FUCSabFab9dI%2FAAAAAAAAAyM%2FvNQT5omPMtg%2Fs1600%2F2495559251_4430345ed6_z.jpg&hash=9831d633b89d15535234ede01ca0eca327ce85b1)
The eyes are on the fan. Are they blind?
Quote from: Gardener on July 23, 2014, 03:26:31 PM
The eyes are on the fan. Are they blind?
;D The image is very popular with those who suffer eye problems by the way.
Quote from: Relicario on July 23, 2014, 03:18:18 PM
What are some unusual devotions that you have encountered?
There is a statue of the Christ Child in Mexico called El Niño Dios Cieguito . The story says a thief broke into the church where the image was located and stole it along with other treasures. The statue supposedly came alive and the thief destroyed it. A few days later they found the broken statue and repaired it but they never found the eyes.
(https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-HgPU9hFm4Nk%2FUCSabFab9dI%2FAAAAAAAAAyM%2FvNQT5omPMtg%2Fs1600%2F2495559251_4430345ed6_z.jpg&hash=9831d633b89d15535234ede01ca0eca327ce85b1)
That is seriously creepy looking
Almos mermaid ish
what's with the big blonde wig?
Quote from: Dom Passerini on July 23, 2014, 09:39:57 PM
what's with the big blonde wig?
There is another image that has the Child with a black wig.
(https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-ipQf8k2oTaE%2FTzq6cocErzI%2FAAAAAAAACh4%2FB16le4bZCxI%2Fs400%2F01%2B-%2BNI%25C3%2591O%2BCIEGUITO%2BPRIMERO%2BDE%2BSONORA%2C%2B29-X-2011.JPG&hash=6fb303488697caa4b8b2977124d6bb1f162a061a)
I don't trust some of these creepy things coming out of Mexico. Haven't a bunch of Mexicans started worshiping a Saint Death or something similar. Smells weird, wouldn't want any part of it.
Quote from: Relicario on July 23, 2014, 10:32:04 PM
Quote from: Dom Passerini on July 23, 2014, 09:39:57 PM
what's with the big blonde wig?
There is another image that has the Child with a black wig.
(https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-ipQf8k2oTaE%2FTzq6cocErzI%2FAAAAAAAACh4%2FB16le4bZCxI%2Fs400%2F01%2B-%2BNI%25C3%2591O%2BCIEGUITO%2BPRIMERO%2BDE%2BSONORA%2C%2B29-X-2011.JPG&hash=6fb303488697caa4b8b2977124d6bb1f162a061a)
It doesn't do anything for my poor eyes at all.
Quote from: AugustineA on July 24, 2014, 01:54:43 AM
I don't trust some of these creepy things coming out of Mexico. Haven't a bunch of Mexicans started worshiping a Saint Death or something similar. Smells weird, wouldn't want any part of it.
Santa muerte, it's connected mainly with the cartels and drug smugglers. i think there is a lot of Mexican Catholics who don't associate with it because of this, though. even in Lowrider Arte you tend to mainly see either Day of the Dead stuff or Our Lady but you don't really see santa muerte which suggests that maybe the Catholic culture is separated from it somewhat. that being said they do say popularity of the cult is growing.
That statue is really creepy. I'm glad we don't go in for weird stuff like that in the U.S.
Quote from: AugustineA on July 24, 2014, 01:54:43 AM
I don't trust some of these creepy things coming out of Mexico. Haven't a bunch of Mexicans started worshiping a Saint Death or something similar. Smells weird, wouldn't want any part of it.
The image of the Nino Dios Cieguito has been practiced since 1744. I'm surprised the bishops of the diocese have never said anything about it.
La santa muerte cult has been condemned by the Church. The sad thing is that people say the la Muerte is more powerful than the Blessed Virgin because she doesn't judge you.
Quote from: Bernadette on July 24, 2014, 06:40:54 AM
That statue is really creepy. I'm glad we don't go in for weird stuff like that in the U.S.
Lol, such Anglo sensibilities.
(I agree.)
Quote from: The Harlequin King on July 24, 2014, 10:22:34 AM
Quote from: Bernadette on July 24, 2014, 06:40:54 AM
That statue is really creepy. I'm glad we don't go in for weird stuff like that in the U.S.
Lol, such Anglo sensibilities.
(I agree.)
If he had his eyes, OR if he were just holding tem without the blood running down his face, I wouldn't have a problem with it.
Quote from: Arun on July 24, 2014, 04:45:54 AM
Quote from: AugustineA on July 24, 2014, 01:54:43 AM
I don't trust some of these creepy things coming out of Mexico. Haven't a bunch of Mexicans started worshiping a Saint Death or something similar. Smells weird, wouldn't want any part of it.
Santa muerte, it's connected mainly with the cartels and drug smugglers. i think there is a lot of Mexican Catholics who don't associate with it because of this, though. even in Lowrider Arte you tend to mainly see either Day of the Dead stuff or Our Lady but you don't really see santa muerte which suggests that maybe the Catholic culture is separated from it somewhat. that being said they do say popularity of the cult is growing.
Syncretism.. We're better off with it as it really is, a false and separate religion. It's sad that Catholics would fall for it.
It doesn't matter to me how old that devotion is, it's quite disturbing and the story even sounds like the people still applied magical thinking to objects- like the Santerias do- I think that's them or is it the voodooans? What's even stranger on a recent trip my family took, there was a toy marketed to youth now of a voodoo doll- it was in one of those arcade machines with the arm to catch a stuffed animal. I couldn't believe it! How evil!
I still don't support that Medjorje or however it's spelled, that devotion just irks me.
All I know is I was watching Fr Mitch Pacwa a few weeks ago and had to turn the tv off because they spoke about how the Mexican drug cartels are bringing back many pagan Aztec stuff along the lines of human sacrifice, including babies and children, as well as cannabalism. Scary stuff and made me want to vomit. Someone had called in asking how we can end the abortion of today? His answer was to continue to teach that it is wrong and show people the truth, and that is how the pagan Egyptians etc stopped doing their infanticide etc. (I didn't know the pagan Egyptians did this.)
Quote from: Relicario on July 23, 2014, 10:32:04 PM
Quote from: Dom Passerini on July 23, 2014, 09:39:57 PM
what's with the big blonde wig?
There is another image that has the Child with a black wig.
(https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-ipQf8k2oTaE%2FTzq6cocErzI%2FAAAAAAAACh4%2FB16le4bZCxI%2Fs400%2F01%2B-%2BNI%25C3%2591O%2BCIEGUITO%2BPRIMERO%2BDE%2BSONORA%2C%2B29-X-2011.JPG&hash=6fb303488697caa4b8b2977124d6bb1f162a061a)
that doesn't look like baby jesus
it looks like some horror movie character making their firs t communion.
In general, I am weirde dout by images that are meant to depict the baby Jesus but don't actually look like a baby
that's just me
In Europe the devotion towards Saint Guinefort was pretty strange. He was a dog.
http://www.thecompassnews.org/2014/07/story-lax-chapel-marian-statue/
Neat story here
i personally have what some people might consider an "unusual devotion" to Memento Mori in general, my wife made me a real nice rosary with all skull beads, red for the Paters and white for the Aves, and i like to keep images of skulls, grim reapers, clocks and so forth around me as constant Memento Mori items because it is, for me, an important thing to consider at all times.
Quote from: Arun on July 24, 2014, 10:41:58 PM
i personally have what some people might consider an "unusual devotion" to Memento Mori in general, my wife made me a real nice rosary with all skull beads, red for the Paters and white for the Aves, and i like to keep images of skulls, grim reapers, clocks and so forth around me as constant Memento Mori items because it is, for me, an important thing to consider at all times.
that osunds pretty cool, st. francis used to contemplate his death a lot too
time waits for no man, eh
Going back to the fan, which I originally referenced in my first post in the thread, I was reading the following passage earlier this evening:
"[11] I indeed baptize you in the water unto penance, but he that shall come after me, is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear; he shall baptize you in the Holy Ghost and fire. [12] Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly cleanse his floor and gather his wheat into the barn; but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire. [13] Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to the Jordan, unto John, to be baptized by him. [14] But John stayed him, saying: I ought to be baptized by thee, and comest thou to me? [15] And Jesus answering, said to him: Suffer it to be so now. For so it becometh us to fulfill all justice. Then he suffered him.
[16] And Jesus being baptized, forthwith came out of the water: and lo, the heavens were opened to him: and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove, and coming upon him. [17] And behold a voice from heaven, saying: This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." - Matthew 3
So, I'm wondering if the eyes on the fan are symbolic of seeing the wheat and chaff, the good and the bad; the fan would be used for winnowing, blowing away the light chaff and leaving the heavier wheat. The wheat would be gathered and then the rest burnt.
My priest's last parish was an Italian parish, and they covered the statue of Mary with cash there.
I once saw a holy card explaining a devotion to the drops of blood that Our Lord shed along the way to Cavalry. I thought it was interestingly specific.
Quote from: piabee on July 30, 2014, 11:38:40 AM
I once saw a holy card explaining a devotion to the drops of blood that Our Lord shed along the way to Cavalry. I thought it was interestingly specific.
That's awesome. Catholicism is so cool.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
Quote from: Chestertonian on July 24, 2014, 10:44:01 PM
Quote from: Arun on July 24, 2014, 10:41:58 PM
i personally have what some people might consider an "unusual devotion" to Memento Mori in general, my wife made me a real nice rosary with all skull beads, red for the Paters and white for the Aves, and i like to keep images of skulls, grim reapers, clocks and so forth around me as constant Memento Mori items because it is, for me, an important thing to consider at all times.
that osunds pretty cool, st. francis used to contemplate his death a lot too
(https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fts3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DHN.608022250990144765%26amp%3Bw%3D371%26amp%3Bh%3D366%26amp%3Bc%3D7%26amp%3Brs%3D1%26amp%3Bqlt%3D80%26amp%3Bpid%3D1.7&hash=670553e2ee5fc0f8710451bd70f7edf85baf5e91)
As did Hans Holbein...
what's up with that skull?
Quote from: Dom Passerini on July 30, 2014, 03:34:53 PM
what's up with that skull?
Memento mori! That was Holbein's motto!
Quote from: drummerboy on July 30, 2014, 05:52:52 PM
Quote from: Dom Passerini on July 30, 2014, 03:34:53 PM
what's up with that skull?
Memento mori! That was Holbein's motto!
Memento Mori is awesome. i have a picture of my Rosary i'll post it here, not real good photo but you can see what it looks like anyways.
Quote from: drummerboy on July 30, 2014, 05:52:52 PM
Quote from: Dom Passerini on July 30, 2014, 03:34:53 PM
what's up with that skull?
Memento mori! That was Holbein's motto!
No, see, I get that. But why's it there, and looking like that, all distorted and photoshopped looking?
(https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2F2ns82o8.jpg&hash=d03a86d030cf89920fa5ca98f2ea6af0808e7279)
Quote from: Dom Passerini on July 30, 2014, 07:22:56 PM
Quote from: drummerboy on July 30, 2014, 05:52:52 PM
Quote from: Dom Passerini on July 30, 2014, 03:34:53 PM
what's up with that skull?
Memento mori! That was Holbein's motto!
No, see, I get that. But why's it there, and looking like that, all distorted and photoshopped looking?
Art historians themselves don't know why he added it to that painting. I myself wonder how the people who paid for it thought when they saw it; my art professor thought they might have thought the technique rather neat. Also, the subject of the painting is rather worldly, two ambassadors showing off their worldly learning, maybe Holbein thought to teach a moral lesson.
And awesome rosary Arun!
thanks, that picture is massive though eh. oops.
That rosary looks evil. Who's idea was that?
Quote from: Sbyvl36 on August 03, 2014, 02:05:22 PM
That rosary looks evil. Who's idea was that?
the memento mori devotion is very old. St. Francis of assisi used to look at a skull and meditate on his own death.
there are chapels where the whole room is line with bones:
(https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.utaot.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F12%2FCzermna_-_Chapel_of_Skulls.jpg&hash=a0338d57236b77713c84126898748d6562f25c02)
(https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.brillianttrips.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F10%2FBones-Chapel-Capela-dos-Ossos-Evora-Portugal-2.jpg&hash=ced2bb696e3affda585da988aa3f6b34001e5d7c)
(https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbobforrestweb.co.uk%2FThe_Rubaiyat%2FGalleries%2FGallery_8%2Fg8%2Fg8c%2F02._Caravaggio__Saint_Jerome.jpg&hash=078edfdd068e7d991bb04496664e3321edd8607f)
caravaggio: st jerome
(https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.historyandarts.com%2Ffichas%2Fjpg%2FCOS03509.jpg&hash=270fac9bbf70ab380657b769837c4898ba188901)
st francis
Quote from: Sbyvl36 on August 03, 2014, 02:05:22 PM
That rosary looks evil. Who's idea was that?
as has been said, memento mori is a long stadning Catholic tradition. my wife made this for me due to my devotion to memento mori. it's made from relatively inexpensive beads, but holds a great deal of sentimental value to me cos she made it to be especially suited to me.
if you saw me in the back of your church with it in my hands it would look fitting hahaha.
There's a "Bone Church" in Rome. I couldn't bring myself to go in. :o
I was going to get one of those memento mori rosaries when I first reverted only because in my work I saw so much death and just how many people are unprepared is astonishing. So I wanted to include a purgatory prayer with it :)
The only thing is that rosary was too $!
Quote from: angelcookie on August 10, 2014, 01:02:09 AM
I was going to get one of those memento mori rosaries when I first reverted only because in my work I saw so much death and just how many people are unprepared is astonishing. So I wanted to include a purgatory prayer with it :)
The only thing is that rosary was too $!
those skull beads in my one are very cheap, check out ebay
I have a memento mori rosary that was made by Rosarium. It's fantastic.
Quote from: LouisIX on August 10, 2014, 02:05:27 PM
I have a memento mori rosary that was made by Rosarium. It's fantastic.
i have seen some photos of his, they look great. pricey though but they would be worth the pice. mine cost under ten bucks for the materials.
Where is Rosarium?
Quote from: angelcookie on August 11, 2014, 12:53:25 AM
Where is Rosarium?
check the unusual rosary thread, think it had more about him on there. the man is a true artist.
Quote from: Arun on August 11, 2014, 04:23:10 AM
Quote from: angelcookie on August 11, 2014, 12:53:25 AM
Where is Rosarium?
check the unusual rosary thread, think it had more about him on there. the man is a true artist.
He's also quite generous.
When I was getting into making rosaries, I asked him about the best places to get certain parts. He asked my address and said he'd send me some things to get me started. What showed up was a giant box FULL of rosary-making everything, including various tools.
that's awesome. wonder what he's doing with himself these days...
Slightly on topic: just saw this
http://news.msn.com/offbeat/video?videoid=d608d628-d37e-04ea-f67c-c76340277cc4&from=en-us_msnhp
Real human teeth in this statue
Quote from: Dom Passerini on August 11, 2014, 05:40:59 PM
Slightly on topic: just saw this
http://news.msn.com/offbeat/video?videoid=d608d628-d37e-04ea-f67c-c76340277cc4&from=en-us_msnhp
Real human teeth in this statue
Wow. I'd totally donate my hair for a statue of the Blessed Virgin. Not sure if anybody woud want a brunette, though.
Quote from: Bernadette on August 12, 2014, 06:50:42 AM
Quote from: Dom Passerini on August 11, 2014, 05:40:59 PM
Slightly on topic: just saw this
http://news.msn.com/offbeat/video?videoid=d608d628-d37e-04ea-f67c-c76340277cc4&from=en-us_msnhp
Real human teeth in this statue
Wow. I'd totally donate my hair for a statue of the Blessed Virgin. Not sure if anybody woud want a brunette, though.
why not
Quote from: Chestertonian on August 12, 2014, 11:38:21 AM
Quote from: Bernadette on August 12, 2014, 06:50:42 AM
Quote from: Dom Passerini on August 11, 2014, 05:40:59 PM
Slightly on topic: just saw this
http://news.msn.com/offbeat/video?videoid=d608d628-d37e-04ea-f67c-c76340277cc4&from=en-us_msnhp
Real human teeth in this statue
Wow. I'd totally donate my hair for a statue of the Blessed Virgin. Not sure if anybody woud want a brunette, though.
why not
Probably because the BVM had blonde hair and blue eyes, just like her Son...
Hollywood, ya know?
Quote from: Chestertonian on August 12, 2014, 11:38:21 AM
Quote from: Bernadette on August 12, 2014, 06:50:42 AM
Quote from: Dom Passerini on August 11, 2014, 05:40:59 PM
Slightly on topic: just saw this
http://news.msn.com/offbeat/video?videoid=d608d628-d37e-04ea-f67c-c76340277cc4&from=en-us_msnhp
Real human teeth in this statue
Wow. I'd totally donate my hair for a statue of the Blessed Virgin. Not sure if anybody woud want a brunette, though.
why not
Brunette depictions of the Blessed Virgin seem so much less common than blonde ones. Plus, my hair is REALLY dark, but not black, so it wouldn't work even for a Mexican or Japanese statue.
Quote from: Bernadette on August 12, 2014, 06:50:42 AM
Quote from: Dom Passerini on August 11, 2014, 05:40:59 PM
Slightly on topic: just saw this
http://news.msn.com/offbeat/video?videoid=d608d628-d37e-04ea-f67c-c76340277cc4&from=en-us_msnhp
Real human teeth in this statue
Wow. I'd totally donate my hair for a statue of the Blessed Virgin. Not sure if anybody woud want a brunette, though.
La Virgen de la Naval de Bacolor from the Philippines has dark brown hair.
(https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2442%2F4063666328_d8a5f48901_b.jpg&hash=e29c096882d50b39f567c72bd523cb6828c1c9f1)