Ecumenism in the Archdiocese of Glasgow

[Lyubov]

"Both at a universal level and at a diocesan level, the Catholic Church regards Ecumenism as integral to its work and life.  In practical terms, whenever we plan for the future, this means asking the Ecumenical question: ?What are the implications of this for ecumenism??"

"As Catholics, in our work at the parish, deanery and archdiocesan levels, we should all be asking what might we be able to do together with our neighbouring churches.  Ecumenism means ?Doing what we can do ? together?."

http://www.rcag.org.uk/pastoral_ecumemism.htm

[poche]

Can anyone say "Anglican Ordinariate?"

[Mithrandylan]

Can anyone say "Anglican Ordinariate?"

Unless I missed something in the article, this has nothing to do with the Anglican Ordinariate.

[tmw89]

Can anyone say "Anglican Ordinariate?"

Unless I missed something in the article, this has nothing to do with the Anglican Ordinariate.

Yes... what exactly were you getting at, Poche?

[Mithrandylan]

I must admit, I didn't understand what the article was saying in terms of what this event actually was.  I gather that it was vespers in a Cathedral?  Who was hosting?  The article gives the impression that it was a non-Catholic group hosting, and invited the archbishop to join.

What a mess, either way.

[Bonaventure]

You guys just have to get with Vatican II and Ecumenism!

Groovy!

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR8LFNUr3vw[/yt]

[Lyubov]

The Church of Scotland was hosting.  I became aware of this after reading this article:

"Modern music is doing much to inspire young people at church"

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Archbishop Mario Conti cautioned against priests indulging their own personal preferences in liturgical matters, especially in regard to the Latin mass: "I venture to suggest that there is no call for it, or pastoral reason to change what has become the settled practice of the Archdiocese, which I read as contentment and indeed appreciation of the pastoral advantages of mass in the vernacular, and in a form which is less mysterious than at least some aspects of what my generation can recall of the 'old' mass."

Last month, I was at an ecumenical service in Glasgow Cathedral to witness a cantata to celebrate the 14th centenary of the founding of Glasgow by St Mungo.

Young people from Glasgow University and pupils from more than 20 primary schools, Catholic and non-denominational, participated enthusiastically in this event organised by Glasgow Churches Together. It was uplifting and I am certain it will have encouraged many of them to repeat the experience and participate more fully in the liturgy in their own parish churches, where the music at the moment is far from "lousy".

Like your reporter, Cate Devine, I did Latin at school. The spectacle and solemnity of the Latin mass is something to remember, revere and respect, but it should be kept for high days and exceptionally holy days, not celebrated routinely in parish churches where few of the faithful would understand what is going on.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/comment/letters/modern-music-is-doing-much-to-inspire-young-people-at-church.19561403

[tmw89]

The Church of Scotland was hosting.  I became aware of this after reading this article:

"Modern music is doing much to inspire young people at church"

The bolded only makes Bonaventure's latest post here all the funnier!

Archbishop Mario Conti cautioned against priests indulging their own personal preferences in liturgical matters, especially in regard to the Latin mass: "I venture to suggest that there is no call for it, or pastoral reason to change what has become the settled practice of the Archdiocese, which I read as contentment and indeed appreciation of the pastoral advantages of mass in the vernacular, and in a form which is less mysterious than at least some aspects of what my generation can recall of the 'old' mass."

[ . . . ]

Like your reporter, Cate Devine, I did Latin at school. The spectacle and solemnity of the Latin mass is something to remember, revere and respect, but it should be kept for high days and exceptionally holy days, not celebrated routinely in parish churches where few of the faithful would understand what is going on.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/comment/letters/modern-music-is-doing-much-to-inspire-young-people-at-church.19561403

Really makes you want to read up all over again on why God permits evil in the world, ya know?

[Penelope]

What I want to know is what the hell is on that cross in the image in the OP.

[tmw89]

What I want to know is what the hell is on that cross in the image in the OP.

I'm going to guess... artistic rendering of the four elements of Earth, Wind, Fire, Water.

Or some such to make it seem new age-y.

[Penelope]

What I want to know is what the hell is on that cross in the image in the OP.

I'm going to guess... artistic rendering of the four elements of Earth, Wind, Fire, Water.

Or some such to make it seem new age-y.

Please excuse me while I quietly go off and vomit.

[Lyubov]

What I want to know is what the hell is on that cross in the image in the OP.

I'm going to guess... artistic rendering of the four elements of Earth, Wind, Fire, Water.

Or some such to make it seem new age-y.

I didn't think of that. I thought I saw a fish, a loaf of bread, and maybe some sort of bell?

[tmw89]

What I want to know is what the hell is on that cross in the image in the OP.

I'm going to guess... artistic rendering of the four elements of Earth, Wind, Fire, Water.

Or some such to make it seem new age-y.

Please excuse me while I quietly go off and vomit.

See, if this thread were in another forum-site, somebody would come in and tell all of us how we can take that as a good thing - how it shows Christ's Lordship over the elements, and we should always try to interpret this crap in the best possible way, etc. etc.

But here, just vomit all around!

What I want to know is what the hell is on that cross in the image in the OP.

I'm going to guess... artistic rendering of the four elements of Earth, Wind, Fire, Water.

Or some such to make it seem new age-y.

I didn't think of that. I thought I saw a fish, a loaf of bread, and maybe some sort of bell?

Upon closer inspection, you are right - I see shapes.  But I see a fish, a bird, a leaf, and a nacho (or maybe a Bugle's?) chip...

[poche]

Can anyone say "Anglican Ordinariate?"

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Unless I missed something in the article, this has nothing to do with the Anglican Ordinariate.
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Yes... what exactly were you getting at, Poche?
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The best use of "ecumenism" results in conversion such as the Anglican Ordinariate.
   

[poche]

They were celebrating the 14th centenary of the founding of Galsgo by St Mungo. Maybe they should take a deeper look at the religous beliefs of their founder and see what they could learn from them and what it was that inspired him to found their city.