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Ask a Traditionalist / Re: Engagement\betrothal break...

Last post by drummerboy - Today at 09:42:22 AM

Marriage is hard af sometimes even when you're both gung-ho on it. Imagine forcing yourself into it when you're full of doubt or see red flags. That's a recipe for disaster.

A man prepares, discerns, and is tested, examined, etc. for 6, 7, or even 8 years prior to being ordained.

Most men and women wait far, far less than that, to marry.

I've read that is due to matrimony being a natural state of mankind, whereas the priesthood (and the accompanying celibacy) are supernatural, and not in the natural order of things.

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Ask a Traditionalist / Re: Engagement\betrothal break...

Last post by dymphnaw - Today at 09:32:20 AM

nonsense. A broken engagement beats a divorce.

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General News and Discussion / Re: Russia Invades Ukraine

Last post by james03 - Today at 09:22:38 AM

They might have committed 30%.  They are keeping a huge reserve due to a possible war with NATO.

Hopefully the Ukraine Army will collapse soon and end this. They are looking shaky.

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Ask a Traditionalist / Re: Engaging with the Eastern ...

Last post by Michael Wilson - Today at 08:48:00 AM

E.W.
Thank you once again for your kind words. I would love to get together with you some day; probably wont happen. Yes, I am open to adult beverages, as I love a good whisky, whether Bourbon or Scotch & Spanish brandy, beer etc.
I am mostly self educated on religious matters, as my formal catechism classed abruptly came to a close in the 5th grade; our Catholic school decided one day to stop teaching it???? Better than what came behind it, when they resumed teaching about it.
I love Catechisms, dogmatic manuals, and even just Church history.
On the Filioque topic, I just stumbled accross this video which sites an unbelievable number of both Western and Eastern Fathers on their views. Just the quote from St. Augustine on John 16. 13-15 will knock your socks off (3min 35 secs) "He will take what is mine": If he receives knowledge from the Son, He receives His essence also. Great stuff!

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The Coffee Pot / Re: Massive Tornado Outbreak 6...

Last post by Lynne - Today at 08:47:54 AM

The warning systems are much better now than they used to be.

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The Coffee Pot / Re: Would you rather (2)

Last post by Michael Wilson - Today at 08:02:52 AM

Doesn't matter what it is, I still would choose pancakes all day!

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The Coffee Pot / Re: Would you rather (2)

Last post by LausTibiChriste - Today at 08:01:16 AM

tf is a stile?

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General Catholic Discussion / Re: Would you rather...?

Last post by Michael Wilson - Today at 07:58:31 AM

It's really a choice between "very","medium" and "less" woke; Russia is just "less" woke than say Hungary, and they are less than France etc. The remedy for "wokeness" is not "less" wokeness or another erroneous ideology, but the Catholic faith. For individuals, I highly recommend the "spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius"; particularly the first meditation on God: "Principle and Foundation"

13FIRST WEEK
PRINCIPLE AND FOUNDATION
Man is created to praise, reverence, and serve God our Lord, and by this means to save his soul.
And the other things on the face of the earth are created for man and that they may help him in
prosecuting the end for which he is created.
From this it follows that man is to use them as much as they help him on to his end, and ought
to rid himself of them so far as they hinder him as to it.
For this it is necessary to make ourselves indifferent to all created things in all that is allowed
to the choice of our free will and is not prohibited to it; so that, on our part, we want not health
rather than sickness, riches rather than poverty, honor rather than dishonor, long rather than short
life, and so in all the rest; desiring and choosing only what is most conducive for us to the end for
which we are created.

Man is a creature who is totally dependent on God, and whose whole purpose of existence and life is to know love and serve God. There is no alternative to God's plan for order, men do not have the 'right' to any other plan or idea.

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The Coffee Pot / Re: It's So Hard To Love My Wi...

Last post by dymphnaw - Today at 07:17:59 AM

What possible shame can this be to your children unless you've told them, which would be sadistic.

Treating your wife like this because she sinned before she met you is very bad. Go see a good priest for advice.

[little or no firmness or stability]

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Ask a Traditionalist / Re: Engagement\betrothal break...

Last post by queen.saints - Today at 07:12:51 AM

Queen saints, thank you for providing the source.

No problem at all!


The example in the original post of a woman trying to damn herself to Hell for all eternity over an engagement is a good illustration of why the Catholic Church teaches us not to read books written by the enemies of the Catholic Church, like Leo Tolstoy, or let them influence our world-view.






Here is an excerpt from the Catechism of the Council of Trent showing that while an engagement is indeed an important agreement it is not "like marriage" as asked in the original question.


Nothing else on earth is like marriage, only the wedding feast of the Lamb in heaven.


http://www.catholicapologetics.info/thechurch/catechism/Holy7Sacraments-Matrimony.shtml

"What has no present existence can have little or no firmness or stability. Hence a man who has only promised to marry a certain woman acquires by the promise no marriage rights, since his promise has not yet been fulfilled. Such promises are, it is true, obligatory, and their violation involves the offending party in a breach of faith. But he who has once entered into the matrimonial alliance, regret it as he afterwards may, cannot possibly change, or invalidate, or undo what has been done.

As, then, the marriage contract is not a mere promise, but a transfer of right, by which the man actually yields the dominion of his body to the woman, the woman the dominion of her body to the man, it must therefore be made in words which designate the present time, the force of which words abides with undiminished efficacy from the moment of their utterance, and binds the husband and wife by a tie that cannot be broken.

...

Thus when Christ our Lord wished to give a sign of the intimate union that exists between Him and His Church and of His immense love for us, He chose especially the sacred union of man and wife. That this sign was a most appropriate one will readily appear from the fact that of all human relations there is none that binds so closely as the marriage tie, and from the fact that husband and wife are bound to one another by the bonds of the greatest affection and love."



The most important consideration is always God's Will. Whatever is God's Will, even breaking off an engagement, is the right thing to do.



From the Douay Catechism:


"Why was it requisite that marriage should be made a sacrament?
    A. Because it is a contract whereon depends the chief happiness of a married life; as being ordained for the restraint of sinful concupiscence, the good of posterity, the well-ordering our domestic affairs, and the education of our children in the fear and service of God, and therefore ought to be ranked in the highest order of those actions, which Christ hath sanctioned for the use of man.

...


Q. Why are so many unhappy in their marriages?
    A. Because they never consulted with God about them, nor sought to have his blessing in them."

http://www.traditionalcatholic.net/Tradition/Information/The_Douay_Catechism/index.html