RIP Pernell "Sweat Pea" Whitaker

[MeanGene]

He was apparently struck and killed by a car yesterday. He was the best southpaw who ever lived (by a large margin) and was peerless when boxing off his back foot. He's unfortunately most famous for receiving arguably the worst decision in the history of the sport when his clear cut points victory over Mexican great Julio Cesar Chavez was declared a majority draw to the astonishment of nearly everyone at ringside in 1993. In a mythical prime match up between Whitaker and Mayweather Jr. at 135 I'm confident Whitaker would have won. That's how good he was. The astonishing thing is he probably left some of his potential on the table because of how poorly he lived outside the ring.

Highlights:

Defense
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZsO3PgRbDY[/yt]

Offense
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEOakFXSxls[/yt]

Here's a cool breakdown of his unorthodox footwork.
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANbqgO_mHxg[/yt]

[Vetus Ordo]

Weeping for a black boxer.

This is traditional Catholicism in 2019.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

[Philip G.]

He was apparently struck and killed by a car yesterday. He was the best southpaw who ever lived (by a large margin) and was peerless when boxing off his back foot. He's unfortunately most famous for receiving arguably the worst decision in the history of the sport when his clear cut points victory over Mexican great Julio Cesar Chavez was declared a majority draw to the astonishment of nearly everyone at ringside in 1993. In a mythical prime match up between Whitaker and Mayweather Jr. at 135 I'm confident Whitaker would have won. That's how good he was. The astonishing thing is he probably left some of his potential on the table because of how poorly he lived outside the ring.

Highlights:

Defense
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZsO3PgRbDY[/yt]

Offense
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEOakFXSxls[/yt]

Here's a cool breakdown of his unorthodox footwork.
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANbqgO_mHxg[/yt]

I was really surprised to hear this.  It is sort of strange.  There was a scare with Zab about a month ago when he was in the hospital after losing a fight, and now the man who was Zab's predecessor, mentor, and comparison dies.

[Philip G.]

Weeping for a black boxer.

This is traditional Catholicism in 2019.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

Catholics can be patriotic.  Pernell was an olympic gold medalist.  Pernell in the ring theoretically represented the best in boxing.  He was the type of boxer who could win a round, and not throw a punch. 

[Vetus Ordo]

Vetus Ordo - If it makes you feel any better, Pernell was an olympic gold medalist.  Catholics are patriotic.  Pernell in the ring theoretically represented the best in boxing.  He was the type of boxer who could win a round, and not throw a punch.

Three quick remarks:

1. The modern Olympic Games are an unmistakable revival of pagan ideals. Being an "olympic gold medalist" is irrelevant to any sound thinking Christian;
2. What you call patriotism is a modern and sectarian concept that runs contrary to the universal brotherhood of Christians;
3. Boxing consists of harming someone else's physical integrity for the vain entertainment of others. It is a regulated beat'em up. That there are "traditional" Catholics who are supportive of such a bestial sport speaks volumes of how inane is the cry and revolt about modern society and how utterly pathetic is the goal to restore whatever was lost in the 50's.

[Philip G.]

Vetus Ordo - If it makes you feel any better, Pernell was an olympic gold medalist.  Catholics are patriotic.  Pernell in the ring theoretically represented the best in boxing.  He was the type of boxer who could win a round, and not throw a punch.

Three quick remarks:

1. The modern Olympic Games are an unmistakable revival of pagan ideals. Being an "olympic gold medalist" is irrelevant to any sound thinking Christian;
2. What you call patriotism is a modern and sectarian concept that runs contrary to the universal brotherhood of Christians;
3. Boxing consists of harming someone else's physical integrity for the vain entertainment of others. It is a regulated beat'em up. That there are "traditional" Catholics who are supportive of such a bestial sport speaks volumes of how inane is the cry and revolt about modern society and how utterly pathetic is the goal to restore whatever was lost in the 50's.

How about we back up to your comment about skin color.  So what if Pernell is black.  What does that have to do with anything?  You sound racist.

You really seem to be a pooper when it comes to other's threads, while at the same time not even having the decency to follow the forum rules and comment on your own when it is required, such as when you routinely litter the forum with news articles. 

Rule 5 of posting " Link your sources when posting news articles.  Conversely, do not link a news story without comment. We want to hear your thoughts and opinions. The best way to encourage discussion is to provide something for people to discuss"

Isn't it ironic, you don't follow the rules and comment on what you think we all need to care about, but then when it comes to what others might care about, you cannot but comment negatively. 

[Vetus Ordo]

How about we back up to your comment about skin color.  So what if Pernell is black.  What does that have to do with anything? You sound racist.

Was Pernell a black boxer or not? That's what I stated. It's a statement of fact.

You really seem to be a pooper when it comes to other's threads, while at the same time not even having the decency to follow the forum rules and comment on your own when it is required, such as when you routinely litter the forum with news articles.

I share articles and news-pieces that I find interesting and that can bring some sort of life to a forum that is practically dead.

What have you been doing to contribute to SD besides whining?

[Kreuzritter]

How about we back up to your comment about skin color.  So what if Pernell is black.  What does that have to do with anything? You sound racist.

Was Pernell a black boxer or not? That's what I stated. It's a statement of fact.

A fact which is totally redundant to your comment unless there's some significance in it to his being "black". Well, we've seen you before implying racial, not religious, undertones to your views of Jewry, so it's not too difficult to imagine why you'd say "black boxer" rather than just "boxer".

1. The modern Olympic Games are an unmistakable revival of pagan ideals. Being an "olympic gold medalist" is irrelevant to any sound thinking Christian;

Yeah, that doesn't follow at all, namely, that "any sound thinking Christian", which you aren't by the way, wouldn't admire a man for his God-given physical talents and the achievements he won through hard work.

2. What you call patriotism is a modern and sectarian concept that runs contrary to the universal brotherhood of Christians;

Man is a debtor chiefly to his parents and his country, after God. Wherefore just as it belongs to religion to give worship to God, so it belongs to piety, in the second place, to show reverence to one's parents and one's country. - St. Thomas Aquinas

3. Boxing consists of harming someone else's physical integrity for the vain entertainment of others.

It's clear that you understand neither the mentality of martial artists nor that of the average combat sport enthusiast.

It is a regulated beat'em up. That there are "traditional" Catholics who are supportive of such a bestial sport speaks volumes of how inane is the cry and revolt about modern society and how utterly pathetic is the goal to restore whatever was lost in the 50's.

Your comment speaks volumes about what an utterly pathetic example of a feminised cuck you are.

[Gardener]

Last I checked, prayer for the dead and charity towards others are definitely Traditional things to do.

I can't find "praise the glories of a war mongering heretic" anywhere in the old manuscripts though.

May he rest in peace, and if he's in Hell, may he give ol' Mohammed a solid left hook.

[Heinrich]

Weeping for a black boxer.

This is traditional Catholicism in 2019.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

This coming from a guy who can't find a lady nor punch through a soaking wet piece of cardboard.

[Michael Wilson]

Last I checked, prayer for the dead and charity towards others are definitely Traditional things to do.

I can't find "praise the glories of a war mongering heretic" anywhere in the old manuscripts though.

May he rest in peace, and if he's in Hell, may he give ol' Mohammed a solid left hook.

If only I had the wit and verve to be able to come up with a post like this one. 

[Heinrich]

Last I checked, prayer for the dead and charity towards others are definitely Traditional things to do.

I can't find "praise the glories of a war mongering heretic" anywhere in the old manuscripts though.

May he rest in peace, and if he's in Hell, may he give ol' Mohammed a solid left hook.

If only I had the wit and verve to be able to come up with a post like this one. 

That's our Gardener.

[Vetus Ordo]

Yeah, that doesn't follow at all, namely, that "any sound thinking Christian", which you aren't by the way, wouldn't admire a man for his God-given physical talents and the achievements he won through hard work.

Boxing is glorified violence. Violence is not accidental to boxing, it's the very purpose of it.

There's nothing to be admired in a sport whose goal is to physically injure another human being: Is it time to stop glorifying this appalling and inhumane sport?.

Man is a debtor chiefly to his parents and his country, after God. Wherefore just as it belongs to religion to give worship to God, so it belongs to piety, in the second place, to show reverence to one's parents and one's country. - St. Thomas Aquinas

The "country" in St. Thomas Aquinas' day was not the nation-state of today which gets confused as an object of "patriotism."

Your comment speaks volumes about what an utterly pathetic example of a feminised cuck you are.

Alt-right jargon alert.

[Vetus Ordo]

This coming from a guy who can't find a lady nor punch through a soaking wet piece of cardboard.

I must fail the masculine ideal according to high school standards.

[Kreuzritter]

Yeah, that doesn't follow at all, namely, that "any sound thinking Christian", which you aren't by the way, wouldn't admire a man for his God-given physical talents and the achievements he won through hard work.

Boxing is glorified violence. Violence is not accidental to boxing, it's the very purpose of it.

Violence is certainly essential to boxing, but it is not the purpose of it any more than hitting a ball with a raquet is the purpose of tennis. You don't understand this because you're a protected little bourgeois with no concept of the world of martial arts, the warrior ethos, and the character it builds. You have no idea of the blood, sweat, tears and dedication these men put into their work, or, showboating and selling fights aside, of the enormous respect that most of these fighters have for one another. There's little else in the world more intimate between two men than duking it out in the ring and hugging each other afterwards.

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvGG1fc8IPc[/yt]

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8avTqwYvaM[/yt]

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR6mYjxaemM[/yt]

There's nothing to be admired in a sport whose goal is to physically injure another human being:

The goal of boxing is to defeat ones opponent in one of the most real and immediate games of strength, speed, skill, courage and wits, and yes, there is much to admire in it, which is why I do in fact admire it. I admire a man's ability to fight, and I enjoy watching two warriors voliuntarily enter the ring to test themselves.

Is it time to stop glorifying this appalling and inhumane sport?.

Is that supposed to impress me? Another commentary from a know-nothing that calls combat sports "blood sports" and compares them with the Hunger Games? Seriously? Fans of boxing are sadists who ejnoy watching people beign hurt?  How is it possible for a man to be that out-of-touch?

Man is a debtor chiefly to his parents and his country, after God. Wherefore just as it belongs to religion to give worship to God, so it belongs to piety, in the second place, to show reverence to one's parents and one's country. - St. Thomas Aquinas

The "country" in St. Thomas Aquinas' day was not the nation-state of today which gets confused as an object of "patriotism."

Keep reaching, little man. Nobody mentioned "nationalism".

Your comment speaks volumes about what an utterly pathetic example of a feminised cuck you are.

Alt-right jargon alert.
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"Alt-right jargon" that describes you to a tee.