St. John Cantius bites the dust

[james03]

This one parish provided half of the seminarians for Chicago.  Evidently the TLM is now outlawed.  It will be interesting to see what happens next.  I guess the order can pack up a leave.  Cupich is a demon loving piece of trash.

[james03]

I don't know much about them, maybe others can fill us in.  I believe they can just relocate.  Sad thing is that the beautiful church will close down if they go.

[james03]

Getting near the end of the month when I send my donation to the SSPX seminary.  Always a happy time for me.

[GiftOfGod]

With all of this in mind, I dose by recalling the insightful observation of Pope Benedict XVI when he issued Summorum Pontificum: "The surest guarantee that the Missal of Paul VI can unite parish communities and be loved by them consists in its being celebrated with great reverence in harmony with the liturgical directives. This will bring cut the spiritual richness and the theological depth of this Missal."
Sincerely yours in Christ,
Blase Card. Cupich
Archbishop of Chicago

Sad thing is that the beautiful church will close down if they go.

They sank millions of dollars into restoring that old church. It will be a painful lesson for them. I wish them well as they were one of the first trad. organizations I contacted back when I was still a cautious and timid NOer/trad-lite, afraid to stray from communion with the Vatican.

[Maximilian]

They sank millions of dollars into restoring that old church.

Was it ever completely restored from the fire?

[GiftOfGod]

They sank millions of dollars into restoring that old church.

Was it ever completely restored from the fire?

I don't know.

[GiftOfGod]

Look at these guys smiling and posing with the man sh*tting on them. They are masochists.


Here's their statement along with the policy and letter from the Chicago Archdiocese: https://www.cantius.org/post/statement-traditiones-custodes

[Elizabeth.2]

I pray for Our Lady Queen of Angels to please send armies of Holy Powers. 

[Kaesekopf]

They sank millions of dollars into restoring that old church.

Was it ever completely restored from the fire?

I think you are confusing St John Cantius with the Shrine of Christ the King.  Cantius is run by the Canons Regular of St John Cantius, the Shrine by ICKSP. 

(And no, they haven't restored the Shrine - progress is slow.)

[Kaesekopf]

I don't know much about them, maybe others can fill us in.  I believe they can just relocate.  Sad thing is that the beautiful church will close down if they go.

The priests are priests of the Archdiocese of Chicago.  They can simply be re-assigned.

They are not a traditional organization.  Their daily office is that of the Liturgy of the Hours, and the majority of their Masses (and the more 'prime-time' time slots) are all Novus Ordo.

[Xavier]

I will enjoy St. John Cantius's traditional liturgical services for as long as they are available. Still, it's a Pity. They should be Much Tougher.

[GiftOfGod]

The priests are priests of the Archdiocese of Chicago.  They can simply be re-assigned.

They are not a traditional organization.  Their daily office is that of the Liturgy of the Hours, and the majority of their Masses (and the more 'prime-time' time slots) are all Novus Ordo.

[Maximilian]

They sank millions of dollars into restoring that old church.

Was it ever completely restored from the fire?

I think you are confusing St John Cantius with the Shrine of Christ the King.  Cantius is run by the Canons Regular of St John Cantius, the Shrine by ICKSP. 

(And no, they haven't restored the Shrine - progress is slow.)

Oh thanks. I guess I always had those 2 locations conflated together.

[lauermar]

SJC Chicago is my parish, and its sister parish in Volo, IL. I support it. From the comments I'm reading here, the knocks against it are quite frankly diabolical. Other comments are spoken by people who don't live in the area and/or don't go to mass there. You can learn about SJC by watching this inspirational video:  https://www.storytel.org/cantius#.YcsPpmDMLIU

The parish was in Novus Ordo ruins in the 1970s before Fr. Phillips sought to restore tradition by starting up the Canons Regular with the seminary. The building was falling apart all over itself. It took a miracle to get the loan, raise donations, get permission from Francis George, and thousands of donated hours by local artisans to restore everything. This church was an oasis in a decade where Latin masses were few and far-between. Considering all the blood, sweat, tears and prayers it took to restore the parish, the snide comment that the church "isn't traditional" is diabolical rubbish.

The restoration was beautiful, church attendance soared back again, and the parish thrived. Annual street processions with BVM, the Teen Life groups with the yellow balloons, retreats and ministries returned. The Canons would say Latin mass all day long if it was permitted. I don't know if the original indult permitted that. Cupich certainly did not want exclusively Latin even before the TC. The Canons ARE tough. They know when to hold, and when to fold. If they fought Cupich head on, they would be shut down and boarded up.

The loss of Fr. Phillips to complaints of inappropriate sex behavior caused the parish much anguish. Under Fr. Caswell's leadership, morale has been restored...until Pope Francis. I do not know what the future of the seminary will be. Some students are still hanging on. Cupich is **not** reassigning priests, as long as they follow the rules of the TC. I suspect that the tourists who come there only for Latin mass will no longer bother to travel that distance, and revenue will decline. The parishioners will still continue to support these priests, as I will. I don't believe the parish will "bite the dust." Hopefully, God will provide.

[lauermar]

Here's a screenshot of the email that parishioners received yesterday.

From: St. John Cantius Church <reply@AB3A6.clients.bmsend.com> on behalf of St. John Cantius Church <reply@cantius.org>
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 2:44 PM
To: mary_lauer@hotmail.com <mary_lauer@hotmail.com>
Subject: Message from Our Pastor on Implementing Traditiones Custodes

http://www.cantius.org/go/
STATEMENT REGARDING THE POLICY OF THE ARCHDIOCESE OF CHICAGO FOR IMPLEMENTING TRADITIONES CUSTODES
On our community's feast day, December 23rd, I had an audience with His Eminence Cardinal Cupich. I took the occasion of our meeting to assure His Eminence that the Canons Regular are committed to preserving unity with him and the Roman Pontiff.  There he outlined the Archdiocesan policy, released today, concerning the implementation of Traditiones Custodes. His Eminence indicated he wants the work of the Canons Regular to continue, albeit within the boundaries established by the Archdiocesan policy to take effect January 25, 2022.

We, like many of you, receive this news with no little sadness, but we also recognize the challenge before us: to live more fully our charism, as outlined in our Constitutions. We have always recognized that  "the core of our apostolate"—our very purpose—is to restore the sacred. We do this through the celebration of our Church's liturgical tradition contained in both the Roman Missal promulgated by Saint Paul VI and well as the Missal promulgated by Saint John XXIII for those who have ties to it. We will be petitioning His Eminence for various permissions. The Cardinal has encouraged us to do so.

In this moment we are prayerfully discerning how to be a bridge for unity in the life of the Church by faithfully implementing the Archdiocesan policy in accord with our spiritual and pastoral patronage, as well as the guidance of the Archbishop of Chicago, and at the same time remain faithful to our mission.

We invite you to accompany us on this discernment by joining us in a Rosary novena, beginning January 25, 2022. We will pray that the Virgin Mother, who said 'yes' to our Lord, helps us follow the will of her Son, and the Church He founded. We will observe these nine days ending on the Feast of Her Purification, Candlemas Day. Throughout this novena, our hearts will be fixed on Mary's—whose heart was also pierced—and who will ultimately say to us, as she told the wedding guests at Cana, pointing to her Son: "Do whatever He tells you."

Prayerfully in Christ,

Very Rev. Joshua S. Caswell, SJC


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