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Re: Should Kyle Rittenhouse sue for defamation? Nicholas Sandmann weighs in
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2021, 05:44:47 PM »
I would imagine a person who is focussing on driving is especially vulnerable to mishearing or misunderstanding items.
You took the words right out of my mouth. I didn't want to say it.

It's crazy how the human mind can hear some words but "remember" other words. "Police wounding of a black man" becomes Rittenhouse "killed a black man".
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Re: Should Kyle Rittenhouse sue for defamation? Nicholas Sandmann weighs in
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2021, 05:49:26 PM »
There is also NO basis for a major news network, CBS, announcing at the top of the hour just yesterday (Alison Keyes, announcer) that Rittenhouse "killed a black man."  I heard this with my own ears while driving. This is not shading the truth; this is an outright lie, published around the globe, and should be included in defamation suits.
Are you sure you heard that correctly? She was probably talking about how Kyle was at BLM protests that were being held because a Kenosha police officer killed a black man (Jacob Blake).

Wrong again.  You are just guessing now, aren't you.  A Kenosha police officer did not killed a black man by the name of Jacob Blake.  Jacob Blake is not dead.  I have no doubt that Miriam heard exactly what she is saying that she heard.
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Re: Should Kyle Rittenhouse sue for defamation? Nicholas Sandmann weighs in
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2021, 06:00:59 PM »
I have no doubt that Miriam heard exactly what she is saying that she heard.
Really?

There is also NO basis for a major news network, CBS, announcing at the top of the hour just yesterday (Alison Keyes, announcer) that Rittenhouse "killed a black man."  I heard this with my own ears while driving. This is not shading the truth; this is an outright lie, published around the globe, and should be included in defamation suits.
This what it says on the CBS "Weekend Roundup" site: http://feeds.cbsnews.com/podcast_weekend_1
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A Wisconsin jury acquits Kyle Rittenhouse of all charges for the shooting deaths of two men and the wounding of another during a night of violent protests over the police wounding of a Black man. .. Host Allison Keyes will have these stories and more on the CBS News "Weekend Roundup."
If attending Mass, the ordinary form as celebrated everyday around the world be sinful, then the Church no longer exists. Period.
Rather, if the NOM were the lex credendi of the Church, then the Church would no longer exist. However, the true mass and the true sacraments still exist and will hold the candle of faith until Our Lord steps in to restore His Bride to her glory.
We could compare ourselves to the Catholics in England at the time of the Reformation. Was it sinful for them to attend Cranmer's service?
We have to remind ourselves that all the machinery of the "Church" continued in place. They had priests, bishops, churches, cathedrals. But all of them were using the new "Book of Common Prayer" instead of the Catholic Mass. Ordinary lay people could see with their own eyes an enormous entity that called itself the "Church," but did the true Church still exist in that situation? Meanwhile, in small hiding places in certain homes were a handful of true priests offering the true Mass at the risk of imprisonment, torture and death.

 

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Re: Should Kyle Rittenhouse sue for defamation? Nicholas Sandmann weighs in
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2021, 02:08:29 PM »
I think Kyle has a pile of choices to choose from to sue for slander.  Here's a couple that I happened to see yesterday.


'Chilling' Rittenhouse Verdict 'Emboldens' Vigilantes, Warns Wisconsin Newspaper

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/chilling-rittenhouse-verdict-emboldens-vigilantes-010325271.html

First of all the title implies that Kyle was a vigilante.  Then there is a photo of Kyle and someone else with this caption under it; "Kyle Rittenhouse at a Kenosha protest before he fatally shot two unarmed men. (Photo: Adam Rogan/The Journal Times via Associated Press)."  Note "two unarmed men"; they don't seem to mind lying at all.  At the bottom of this Yahoo News article it says;
"Read the entire Wisconsin State Journal editorial .
Also on HuffPost
This article originally appeared on HuffPost and has been updated."


Kyle Rittenhouse trial was designed to protect white conservatives who kill
The shooter’s homicide acquittal coddles conservatives and may lead to even more violence.

https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/kyle-rittenhouse-acquitted-homicide-rcna5748

MSNBC is clearly trying to divide here; "protect white conservatives who kill".


At 4:08 minutes on this video it is showing a Independent news article titled "Kyle Rittenhouse cleared of murder after shooting dead two Black Lives Matter protesters".  If you keep watching for a second it scrolls down to show a sub-title that reads "Full story: Teenager who shot three black men with rifle found not guilty on all charges."

"shot three black men".  The liars.



I still have no doubt that Miriam heard exactly what she thought she heard.
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Re: Should Kyle Rittenhouse sue for defamation? Nicholas Sandmann weighs in
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2021, 03:11:28 PM »
You all are nuts if you think that calling Kyle a "vigilante" is defamatory. He admitted on the witness stand that he saw that there was lawlessness and disorder in Kenosha and he wanted to do something about it. The fact that he did strapped a gun onto himself and started protecting property, even though he wasn't supposed to be outside due to a riot curfew, makes him a vigilante.

90% of Kyle supporters praise him for cleaning the streets of degenerates like Rosenbaum and Huber, saying that those two finally met justice. Well, it wasn't through a court of law; it was through Kyle. If that's not vigilante justice, I don't know what is.
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We could compare ourselves to the Catholics in England at the time of the Reformation. Was it sinful for them to attend Cranmer's service?
We have to remind ourselves that all the machinery of the "Church" continued in place. They had priests, bishops, churches, cathedrals. But all of them were using the new "Book of Common Prayer" instead of the Catholic Mass. Ordinary lay people could see with their own eyes an enormous entity that called itself the "Church," but did the true Church still exist in that situation? Meanwhile, in small hiding places in certain homes were a handful of true priests offering the true Mass at the risk of imprisonment, torture and death.

 

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Re: Should Kyle Rittenhouse sue for defamation? Nicholas Sandmann weighs in
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2021, 05:12:11 PM »
Should a 19 year old offer legal advice? No.

Those who actually read the article know that Nicholas offered  NO legal advice. He simply offered moral support.
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Re: Should Kyle Rittenhouse sue for defamation? Nicholas Sandmann weighs in
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2021, 05:13:36 PM »
y Kyle's mother should have kept him home that night.

Kyle's mother had just completed a double shift and was SLEEPING when her son left. Stop throwing stones.
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Re: Should Kyle Rittenhouse sue for defamation? Nicholas Sandmann weighs in
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2021, 05:24:54 PM »
90% of Kyle supporters praise him for cleaning the streets of degenerates like Rosenbaum and Huber, saying that those two finally met justice.

Wrong. Actually 99% of supporters of Natural Law, the U.S. Constitution, the 2nd Amendment which all protect the right of self-defense AND who watched the trial recognize that prosecutors had NO CASE and were either part of the mob mentality or were appeasing the mob. THAT is why we support Rittenhouse's right to defend himself. The other 1% are, well something I cannot say because I am a Catholic woman.

If you actually believe your words above, you are projecting your own warped thinking onto others.
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Re: Should Kyle Rittenhouse sue for defamation? Nicholas Sandmann weighs in
« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2021, 07:12:07 PM »
90% of Kyle supporters praise him for cleaning the streets of degenerates like Rosenbaum and Huber, saying that those two finally met justice.

Wrong. Actually 99% of supporters of Natural Law, the U.S. Constitution, the 2nd Amendment which all protect the right of self-defense AND who watched the trial recognize that prosecutors had NO CASE and were either part of the mob mentality or were appeasing the mob. THAT is why we support Rittenhouse's right to defend himself. The other 1% are, well something I cannot say because I am a Catholic woman.

If you actually believe your words above, you are projecting your own warped thinking onto others.
His supporters also support that, including me. But I am saying that 90% of "90% of Kyle supporters praise him for cleaning the streets of degenerates". I'm in the 10% that are not praising him for that.
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Re: Should Kyle Rittenhouse sue for defamation? Nicholas Sandmann weighs in
« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2021, 03:24:33 PM »
What's the source for this information? It looks like a Russian fake news web site.

I have to partially agree with Gog.
Fake news yes; story does not check out.
But Russian? Not so, only to those who wear Russia-hoax-goggles.
Smells more like controlled opposition -- like Q.
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We could compare ourselves to the Catholics in England at the time of the Reformation. Was it sinful for them to attend Cranmer's service?
We have to remind ourselves that all the machinery of the "Church" continued in place. They had priests, bishops, churches, cathedrals. But all of them were using the new "Book of Common Prayer" instead of the Catholic Mass. Ordinary lay people could see with their own eyes an enormous entity that called itself the "Church," but did the true Church still exist in that situation? Meanwhile, in small hiding places in certain homes were a handful of true priests offering the true Mass at the risk of imprisonment, torture and death.