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Re: Please pray for the FSSP and Fr. James Jackson, in particular
« Reply #106 on: November 22, 2021, 11:44:32 AM »
https://twitter.com/jaaschutz/status/1462569252033081347

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I got into it big time with him on Twitter... Dudes more of a narcissist than Voris
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Re: Please pray for the FSSP and Fr. James Jackson, in particular
« Reply #107 on: November 22, 2021, 06:34:47 PM »
https://twitter.com/jaaschutz/status/1462569252033081347

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Mike of RTF is a petulant pos. He's a wolf in sheeps clothing

I got into it big time with him on Twitter... Dudes more of a narcissist than Voris

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Re: Please pray for the FSSP and Fr. James Jackson, in particular
« Reply #110 on: November 22, 2021, 08:39:18 PM »
You are citing Church Militant? They are a bunch of opportunistic, unscrupulous narcissists.

Then ignore what they wrote and read the screenshots of RTF's twitter account.  It's unsubstantiated gossip and behavior unworthy of any Catholic, much less someone you want to hold up as a leader.

When they win in court, will you retract this?



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Re: Please pray for the FSSP and Fr. James Jackson, in particular
« Reply #111 on: November 23, 2021, 12:01:22 AM »
Sometimes people lead double lives and you'd never guess. Without going into detail, I have 2 siblings with gender dysphoria that hid their conditions well into adulthood. I found out by accident.

I also have an in-law who had a secret double life for 40 years. He hid it well. I'm the only one in the family that knows because the ex-wife shared it with me after their divorce. She found out accidently.

I had a late uncle that studied for priesthood then decided to marry my aunt instead. They owned their own business for a time and he was in law enforcement. They were devout Catholics. After he died, I looked at his FB page and some of his page likes. I was astonished to see he was friends with a page of someone we didn't know, a young prostitute looking girl. I looked through her page and realized it was a fake account in which the owner changed the model's pictures periodically. It had no real content, just all male followers and cheesy photos. It was a front for a link to porn. One of my siblings had a similar liked page. My husband noticed it too and was shocked. We never knew he was into that.

I once belonged to a parish whose pastor seemed straight as an arrow until the accusations. We didn't believe it until a trial came out and proved it. I found out later from another uncle that my late mom had seen some things while working there, and she didn't tell anyone but him.

I'm not saying Jackson is guilty. I'm saying you never know until there's an investigation. Nothing anybody does surprises me anymore. There are more people close to you with secrets than you know.
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Re: Please pray for the FSSP and Fr. James Jackson, in particular
« Reply #112 on: November 23, 2021, 12:24:01 AM »
The Archbishop of Denver has provided a list of illicit, invalid Masses which do not fulfill our Sunday Obligation.  The two SSPX chapels are on his list, which includes some sketchy sounding "ecumenical Catholic" communities.  The Archbishop describes the "communities" on the list as having a semblance of offering the Mass.

Our married daughter is moving to Denver. Can I have that list?
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Re: Please pray for the FSSP and Fr. James Jackson, in particular
« Reply #113 on: November 23, 2021, 12:48:50 AM »
While I totally despise CM actions, on the other hand I wonder what is a true motivation behind RTF. I watched some episodes and the owner strikes me as equally self centered as CM staff. But regardless RTF intentions, I do hope that the justice will prevail.

As far as the fr. Jackson cases goes, is there evidence how he obtained illicit content. That it was actually him. Being of older generation, the priest at the same time - I seriously doubt 1) he as able to setup P2P 2) he truly was able to secure his computer against hackers 3) or he was naive enough to follow some instructions how to pull the content.

By the way, I am not a layer, but the possession of such content itself is a crime? Do not prosecutors have to prove actual actions of fr. Jackson.


Did Mr. Marshall took a stand in this?


 
 
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Re: Please pray for the FSSP and Fr. James Jackson, in particular
« Reply #114 on: November 23, 2021, 01:08:15 AM »
I found out long ago that CM is a disreputable website with a penchant for mendacity. There are many such crooked Catholic media outlets. I don't know RTF but I'll wager he's no different. I stopped following those outlets. I don't support any.

There is a way for police forensics to determine if a person is hacked because the search hits they use will be vastly different from the usual ones that an innocent person uses on a typical day. If they see a pattern of visiting the same porn sites that goes back years, and follows that person from city to city on different computers, then it's less likely a stranger hacking than the man's personal habits. It may follow a pattern.
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Re: Please pray for the FSSP and Fr. James Jackson, in particular
« Reply #115 on: November 23, 2021, 07:59:05 AM »
You are citing Church Militant? They are a bunch of opportunistic, unscrupulous narcissists.

Then ignore what they wrote and read the screenshots of RTF's twitter account.  It's unsubstantiated gossip and behavior unworthy of any Catholic, much less someone you want to hold up as a leader.

When they win in court, will you retract this?





We must have different detraction thresholds. Calling people names is not defamation. Grow up. RtF Mike did and is doing a charitable action in fundraising for Father Jackson. For some reason, the CMhitsquad came after him and all but condemned Father Jackson. CM has a history of doing these things.
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Re: Please pray for the FSSP and Fr. James Jackson, in particular
« Reply #116 on: November 23, 2021, 08:18:29 AM »
You are citing Church Militant? They are a bunch of opportunistic, unscrupulous narcissists.

Then ignore what they wrote and read the screenshots of RTF's twitter account.  It's unsubstantiated gossip and behavior unworthy of any Catholic, much less someone you want to hold up as a leader.

When they win in court, will you retract this?





We must have different detraction thresholds. Calling people names is not defamation. Grow up. RtF Mike did and is doing a charitable action in fundraising for Father Jackson. For some reason, the CMhitsquad came after him and all but condemned Father Jackson. CM has a history of doing these things.

Not sure if you're unwilling or unable to see, but I'll connect the dots for you.

In the first screenshot, your leader is insinuating that a priest and Voris are active homosexuals.  Grave matter.

In the second screenshot, your leader is insinuating that Niles is an active alcoholic.  Grave matter.

Your leader needs to put up or shut up.  Without evidence, he's just gossipping like a teenage girl.
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Re: Please pray for the FSSP and Fr. James Jackson, in particular
« Reply #117 on: November 23, 2021, 10:34:07 AM »
RTF stepped up and used his entire brand/network of people to do a fundraiser for Fr., defended it, and has been nothing but hounded and demonized by a known muckraking organization that profits on scandal as a business model: headed by a man who hid his very relevant past for over a decade and never purged himself of the liberal bully tactics and vitriol formed in him by the gay scene.

All this for having the temerarious gall, indeed foolishness to the world, to help someone based on reputation alone. RTF struck while the iron was hot and the opportunity for an action with necessary momentum was possible, providing a rally point for defense. The FSSP washed their hands of Fr. Jackson the moment they learned of his arrest.

RTF threw his entire brand on the line for a man accused of some of the most heinous things imaginable, not even personally knowing Fr. At best, RTF was going to end up with no detriment. At worst, he was risking the ruination of his life in the eyes of the world. ...for a man he doesn't even know.

There’s no scenario in which RTF would have gotten away with having positively benefitted in any secular sense from this fundraiser for Fr.; embezzling would have been too obvious and trackable, given the claims he made on how he would use and track the funds. He has always been upfront about how he intends to split the money between legal defense and private investigators' cost, which *wouldn't* be just a few thousand unless very specifically relegated to very specific actions (something he never said, and was fabricated by CMtv), such as simply running a pre-set program used by forensics investigators. In such a case, that would be like a doctor prescribing Tylenol for cancer. It needs a deep dive on both the technical and non-technical aspects.

CMtv is making a big deal about whether or not Br. Martin Navarro is a monk, trying to insinuate some sort of previous financial impropriety on the part of RTF vis-à-vis fundraising schemes. All he did was provide a platform for awareness, but the fundraiser was handled by Br. Martin. Br. Martin has always been upfront, as far as I know, about the Oblates of St. Augustine's de facto status under certain provisions in Canon Law. One might as well attack Fr. Nix's status as a 'diocesan hermit' because he drives all over the place. It would be about the same level of honesty.

As for Joe "Beard"'s whiny letter:

I'd have done the exact thing RTF did. Want to quit? I'm taking over the accounts so you cannot ruin the brand in a fit of rage. It's *exactly* how business works; I've done the same thing to employees' accounts when there are sudden legal issues, firings/quitting, etc. They apparently didn't have a contract in place to fall back on. Remuneration and legal possession was undefined, it seems. Joe didn't pursue it legally and 2 years later wants to make a stink. This is par for the course in CMtv's methodology. Who knows the other side, RTF's portion of the story. Joe's timing is suspect, his claims are rather vague, and frankly he comes off like someone who needs to learn a few things in life.
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Re: Please pray for the FSSP and Fr. James Jackson, in particular
« Reply #118 on: November 23, 2021, 12:57:31 PM »
Yeah, when the CM went after priests I know, in St. Marys - and St. Marys itself as a Nazi pedophile enabling cult town....

exploiting vulnerable laypeople and sullying good priests.... when Niles had the audacity to publicly disrespect Bp. Schnieder after his gentle, face saving rebuke ?   

I guess it would not be prudent for me to mess up this forum, Gardener, with what I'd like to say or do in these matters.

 

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Re: Please pray for the FSSP and Fr. James Jackson, in particular
« Reply #119 on: November 23, 2021, 06:22:56 PM »
https://twitter.com/jaaschutz/status/1462569252033081347

Trad wars continue

Mike of RTF is a petulant pos. He's a wolf in sheeps clothing

I got into it big time with him on Twitter... Dudes more of a narcissist than Voris

Maybe you were both having bad days. He’s a leader we can trust. So are you. Somehow bury the fury.

No.

Mike is no leader. He's as opportunistic as Voris, he just plays the opposite side of the spectrum to make it look like he's legit.
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