Please pray for the FSSP and Fr. James Jackson, in particular

Started by Richard Malcolm, October 31, 2021, 01:57:41 PM

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Lynne

Quote from: mikemac on November 05, 2021, 05:51:22 PM

I kind of doubt that KK is curating content.  Maybe.  Every post logs our IP address.  But IP addresses can be disguised.  I used to run a forum, a Simple Machines forum like this.  I had over 35,000 members to my forum, but I started to get a rash of child porn images posted.  I'd delete them and blocked the IP address, but it didn't stop them.  I'd check the forum first thing in the morning to try to delete the crap before forum members seen it.  But I didn't put up with it for long before I shut the entire forum down, so that only myself and four close friends could post in a private section of the forum.  I could tell by the forum back office that most of the child porn images came from Russia, the Ukraine, Moldavia and Israel, the most disgusting coming from Israel.  There must be software that allows there IP address to change with each post cause I noticed some of the culprits were showing multiple IP addresses.

I'm impressed Mike with your technical expertise(!), though I'm sorry your forum got attacked.
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diaduit

Just a side question,

do you all believe the 'you never know who is a paedo' or the 'you never know what goes on behind closed doors'....I'm not so sure that paedos or groomers don't give off some clues.  I've gotten bad vibes of individuals over my lifetime, even once as a 4 year old, an old male neighbour used to ask me for a kiss (peck on the lips), I remember vividly getting the creeps and avoiding his gate after that.
I caught an adult male staring at my then 8 year old son in the living room of my sisters house, when he moved his eyes towards me he melted on the spot I glared at him with such venom.

Do ye not think there are always clues, that something that was a bit off, no?

Frank

Quote from: diaduit on November 06, 2021, 05:27:14 AM
Just a side question,

do you all believe the 'you never know who is a paedo' or the 'you never know what goes on behind closed doors'....I'm not so sure that paedos or groomers don't give off some clues.  I've gotten bad vibes of individuals over my lifetime, even once as a 4 year old, an old male neighbour used to ask me for a kiss (peck on the lips), I remember vividly getting the creeps and avoiding his gate after that.
I caught an adult male staring at my then 8 year old son in the living room of my sisters house, when he moved his eyes towards me he melted on the spot I glared at him with such venom.

Do ye? not think there are always clues, that something that was a bit off, no?

Of course - just as there are clues if a woman is trying to seduce you.
Biden for instance has given numerous clues that he is a pervert. However US citizens don't seem to care.

More surprisingly, Irish citizens voted for some who admits he is a pervert.
At least he's honest about it.

As for the Irish I suppose its a case of corruptio optimi pessima.
in principio erat Verbum et Verbum erat apud Deum et Deus erat Verbum
hoc erat in principio apud Deum
omnia per ipsum facta sunt et sine ipso factum est nihil quod factum est

Prayerful

Quote from: diaduit on November 06, 2021, 05:27:14 AM
Just a side question,

do you all believe the 'you never know who is a paedo' or the 'you never know what goes on behind closed doors'....I'm not so sure that paedos or groomers don't give off some clues.  I've gotten bad vibes of individuals over my lifetime, even once as a 4 year old, an old male neighbour used to ask me for a kiss (peck on the lips), I remember vividly getting the creeps and avoiding his gate after that.
I caught an adult male staring at my then 8 year old son in the living room of my sisters house, when he moved his eyes towards me he melted on the spot I glared at him with such venom.

Do ye not think there are always clues, that something that was a bit off, no?

I recall once getting NOM Communion at c. 10 in the parish church and I got the impression that the regular or Order priest there giving it out was looking at me in an odd way. Now a person might be wrong, but tending towards excessive wariness is wisest in these matters.
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nmoerbeek

Quote from: diaduit on November 06, 2021, 05:27:14 AM
Just a side question,

do you all believe the 'you never know who is a paedo' or the 'you never know what goes on behind closed doors'....I'm not so sure that paedos or groomers don't give off some clues.  I've gotten bad vibes of individuals over my lifetime, even once as a 4 year old, an old male neighbour used to ask me for a kiss (peck on the lips), I remember vividly getting the creeps and avoiding his gate after that.
I caught an adult male staring at my then 8 year old son in the living room of my sisters house, when he moved his eyes towards me he melted on the spot I glared at him with such venom.

Do ye not think there are always clues, that something that was a bit off, no?

I am of the you never know camp and that is why we must keep the fear of God and observe proper modesty and decorum with others (and insist on it when people deal with our Children).

In the numerous lives of Saints you see those who are clairvoyant or who have second sight (they actual behold with their human eyes spiritual realities like if someone is in a state of grace) brought in to evaluate other "saints".  These other "saints" often times not only live lives of tremendous discipline, but they also have visible super natural signs accompanying them. 

Yet, when they meet these real Saints they, through the Gifts God has given them, can see through the person (and reveal the depths of their hidden depravity or their that they have been deceived by evil spirits), but without those gifts they may have not been able to as well.

At the opposite end of the spectrum you also have numerous stories in lives of Saints of people whom others had rashly judged, held in contempt and the such like and as it turns out where beloved by God than most other men.

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Elizabeth.2

I have a bad feeling about this whole thing.  But I may be jaded because I have encountered so many fallen and corrupted priests, and my background is so ripe for attracting or noticing pervs.
:pray3:

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Quote from: diaduit on November 06, 2021, 05:27:14 AM
do you all believe the 'you never know who is a paedo' or the 'you never know what goes on behind closed doors'....

I would bet that their ability to hide their intent is probably not correlated with their level of depravity.

Some will be easy to pick out, while others will probably go unnoticed until they strike.

Although I would also bet that the most prolific offenders are probably the ones who are good at hiding their intent, for obvious reasons.
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Quote from: Elizabeth.2 on November 06, 2021, 09:28:08 AM
I have a bad feeling about this whole thing.  But I may be jaded because I have encountered so many fallen and corrupted priests, and my background is so ripe for attracting or noticing pervs.
:pray3:

I feel the same way, but I am not 100%, since there have been several attempts to frame people for this, most notably Alex Jones.
Alex Jones showed the emails he was receiving from government addresses, but never opened these emails, certain that they were there to plant that stuff on his hard drive. Jones has beaten them before, though. They have tried to drug him, get him drunk and almost seduced by an especially older looking teenage girl, he understands the corruption in our government institutions. A good-intentioned, holy priest would likely have no chance at fending off the software, however.

This post makes me sound like I'm a fan of Alex Jones, which I'm not really. I do believe his claims on this, though.

It all hinges on how this holy priest pleas. If he insists he is not guilty, I will trust him, given how those close to him seem to respect him. If he is guilty, I pray he comes clean. If it is a plot, I pray that it is exposed.
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Elizabeth.2

What if this priest inadvertently got himself in trouble by accidentally over-reaching his authority in some manner?  I wonder, because he was evidently praying the Rosary in reparation for a satanic mass, at the same time and place as this event. 

trentcath

Quote from: Gardener on November 05, 2021, 02:42:40 PM
Quote from: trentcath on November 05, 2021, 01:49:17 PM

You can also donate money to what you think is a good cause, that doesn't make it any less of a bad bet.

If God Himself gives grace and love, indeed His own Body on the Cross, for the redemption of those He foreknows will in the end reject Him, who am I to not give a paltry sum to the defense of a man who has been nothing less than a father to me and many others?

I remember once I was doing some physical labor with Fr. Jackson (his day was measured, he was a scheduled man and every day included recreation, often physical labor projects on the grounds of the parish). At the time I was yet unmarried and being retired (medical) from the Army, I didn't have to work so long as I maintained frugality. Living but half a mile from the parish, I'd often time my own day to meet his recreation time and assist him in the work. It was one of the few times there wasn't an interruption, and I could pick his brain on things that were often out of context for Adult education class or similar. I had a decision to make on something and was stumped. He offered all the usual advice: prayer, adoration, etc., and I kept fighting him on it. I didn't feel like I could afford to make a wrong decision. He finally got a little fed up with my protesting his solutions. He stopped, looked me in eye and said, "Look, you have to make a decision. It doesn't matter who you are, even a bad decision can be adjusted from. No decision is not an answer. When I was in the Platoon Leader's Course for the Marines, we had a guy who was a complete stud. Excellent PT, smart, etc. But he couldn't make a decision to save his life. He failed. Don't fail this." And then he got back to picking up the big rocks which we were moving from the previous wall outside the parish hall.

I'd rather make a bad bet, a dumb decision, than look back and say, "I should have done something for him."


Fair enough and I'm not saying otherwise, I'm just highlighting some of the nuances that's all. I honestly hope he isn't guilty.

trentcath

Quote from: diaduit on November 06, 2021, 05:27:14 AM
Just a side question,

do you all believe the 'you never know who is a paedo' or the 'you never know what goes on behind closed doors'....I'm not so sure that paedos or groomers don't give off some clues.  I've gotten bad vibes of individuals over my lifetime, even once as a 4 year old, an old male neighbour used to ask me for a kiss (peck on the lips), I remember vividly getting the creeps and avoiding his gate after that.
I caught an adult male staring at my then 8 year old son in the living room of my sisters house, when he moved his eyes towards me he melted on the spot I glared at him with such venom.

Do ye not think there are always clues, that something that was a bit off, no?

I think the word 'always' is used far too often, so no I don't think there are always clues.

Christina_S

Interesting snippet from National Catholic Register:
QuoteIn the Sept. 26 bulletin, Father Jackson wrote that he planned to leave for a monthly day of recollection that afternoon. According to the affidavit, a detective observed a computer or other device accessing the network on Sept. 26 at 5:32 p.m.

Father Jackson and St. Mary's parochial vicar, Father Thu Truong, planned to travel to Nebraska Oct. 25-29 for a recollection and ordination.

Father Jackson was arrested later that week, on Oct. 30. He was released from custody on an unsecured bond Wednesday and will be allowed to live with a relative in Kansas pending the adjudication of his charges.

It was disclosed in federal court that Father Jackson has COVID-19 and won't return to Kansas until he recovers, Providence television station WPRI reported. He is scheduled to be arraigned on state child pornography charges Nov. 15.
https://www.ncregister.com/cna/father-james-jackson-wrote-about-sex-abuse-scandals-called-mccarrick-a-creep

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Elizabeth.2

The Archbishop of Denver has provided a list of illicit, invalid Masses which do not fulfill our Sunday Obligation.  The two SSPX chapels are on his list, which includes some sketchy sounding "ecumenical Catholic" communities.  The Archbishop describes the "communities" on the list as having a semblance of offering the Mass.

trentcath

Quote from: Elizabeth.2 on November 09, 2021, 08:50:35 AM
The Archbishop of Denver has provided a list of illicit, invalid Masses which do not fulfill our Sunday Obligation.  The two SSPX chapels are on his list, which includes some sketchy sounding "ecumenical Catholic" communities.  The Archbishop describes the "communities" on the list as having a semblance of offering the Mass.

:rofl: Can you post a link? I fancy a good laugh.

King Wenceslas

Quote from: Christina_S on November 08, 2021, 04:07:47 PM
Interesting snippet from National Catholic Register:
QuoteIn the Sept. 26 bulletin, Father Jackson wrote that he planned to leave for a monthly day of recollection that afternoon. According to the affidavit, a detective observed a computer or other device accessing the network on Sept. 26 at 5:32 p.m.

Father Jackson and St. Mary's parochial vicar, Father Thu Truong, planned to travel to Nebraska Oct. 25-29 for a recollection and ordination.

Father Jackson was arrested later that week, on Oct. 30. He was released from custody on an unsecured bond Wednesday and will be allowed to live with a relative in Kansas pending the adjudication of his charges.

It was disclosed in federal court that Father Jackson has COVID-19 and won't return to Kansas until he recovers, Providence television station WPRI reported. He is scheduled to be arraigned on state child pornography charges Nov. 15.
https://www.ncregister.com/cna/father-james-jackson-wrote-about-sex-abuse-scandals-called-mccarrick-a-creep


Quite suspicious of this whole thing. So just WHO was at the keyboard of the computer that accessed the kiddy porn site?