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Re: Separate property in marriage?
« Reply #180 on: December 29, 2020, 01:45:33 AM »
And perhaps, as an aspiring wife who truly want to love her husband, she would not mind it initially just because she wanted to be a GOOD and GIVING wife.

What would she be giving? It's not hers to give.

I am not a layer, but if you WANT that sole property, just setup a trust or some kind of rental LLC who would be the owner (I am sure there are ways of doing so), make sure it goes to your wife in case you die before her and never bring it up. Not because you want to manage the potential divorce situation (fear driven) but because you WANT things be that way (strong will driven).

Estate planning is important but even without it, a spouse automatically inherits.

You are right about motorcycling. I'm giving that up once my future wife gets pregnant. I'm not worried about dying before is pregnant. Young and childless widows are still desirable in tradom and she'd bring quite a dowry to her next marriage.
If attending Mass, the ordinary form as celebrated everyday around the world be sinful, then the Church no longer exists. Period.
Rather, if the NOM were the lex credendi of the Church, then the Church would no longer exist. However, the true mass and the true sacraments still exist and will hold the candle of faith until Our Lord steps in to restore His Bride to her glory.
We could compare ourselves to the Catholics in England at the time of the Reformation. Was it sinful for them to attend Cranmer's service?
We have to remind ourselves that all the machinery of the "Church" continued in place. They had priests, bishops, churches, cathedrals. But all of them were using the new "Book of Common Prayer" instead of the Catholic Mass. Ordinary lay people could see with their own eyes an enormous entity that called itself the "Church," but did the true Church still exist in that situation? Meanwhile, in small hiding places in certain homes were a handful of true priests offering the true Mass at the risk of imprisonment, torture and death.

 

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Re: Separate property in marriage?
« Reply #181 on: December 29, 2020, 08:11:50 PM »
What would she be giving? It's not hers to give.

Herself. All her life. Every moment of it. For you.


I'm giving that up once my future wife gets pregnant.

Why?
 

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Re: Separate property in marriage?
« Reply #182 on: December 29, 2020, 10:03:43 PM »
I'm giving that up once my future wife gets pregnant.

Why?

Because riding when you have a pregnant wife is an unacceptable risk. I thought I made it clear that widowing a young childless trad isn't that bad. You should be able to draw the conclusion from that statement that it is very bad to widow a young trad with a child. Her value on the trad marriage market is nil as a single mother, she can't work to support her child without depriving her child of a mother, and the child is deprived of a father. Bad all around compared to:
Young and childless widows are still desirable in tradom and she'd bring quite a dowry to her next marriage.

By dowry, I'm referring to her inheriting my assets and getting a life insurance payout.
If attending Mass, the ordinary form as celebrated everyday around the world be sinful, then the Church no longer exists. Period.
Rather, if the NOM were the lex credendi of the Church, then the Church would no longer exist. However, the true mass and the true sacraments still exist and will hold the candle of faith until Our Lord steps in to restore His Bride to her glory.
We could compare ourselves to the Catholics in England at the time of the Reformation. Was it sinful for them to attend Cranmer's service?
We have to remind ourselves that all the machinery of the "Church" continued in place. They had priests, bishops, churches, cathedrals. But all of them were using the new "Book of Common Prayer" instead of the Catholic Mass. Ordinary lay people could see with their own eyes an enormous entity that called itself the "Church," but did the true Church still exist in that situation? Meanwhile, in small hiding places in certain homes were a handful of true priests offering the true Mass at the risk of imprisonment, torture and death.

 

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Re: Separate property in marriage?
« Reply #183 on: December 29, 2020, 10:43:25 PM »
Because riding when you have a pregnant wife is an unacceptable risk.

If your skills suck, then yes.
 

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Re: Separate property in marriage?
« Reply #184 on: January 06, 2021, 12:47:17 AM »
Because riding when you have a pregnant wife is an unacceptable risk.

If your skills suck, then yes.

I did a ride-a-long with a traffic cop once. He said that being the world's best/safest motorcyclist won't save you from a drunk driver, texter, teenage speeder, etc. He had been a traffic cop for 10 years and he's said that he investigated hundreds of motorcycle accidents, so I believe him. My motorcyclist class said the same thing but with stats. I don't have the papers anymore but basically a sizable percentalge of motorcyclist deaths were not the fault of the motorcyclists. Will that be on your tombstone, andy, "At least my skills didn't suck!"? The risk is still many times higher even if you take away the deaths caused by the fault of the motorcyclists.
If attending Mass, the ordinary form as celebrated everyday around the world be sinful, then the Church no longer exists. Period.
Rather, if the NOM were the lex credendi of the Church, then the Church would no longer exist. However, the true mass and the true sacraments still exist and will hold the candle of faith until Our Lord steps in to restore His Bride to her glory.
We could compare ourselves to the Catholics in England at the time of the Reformation. Was it sinful for them to attend Cranmer's service?
We have to remind ourselves that all the machinery of the "Church" continued in place. They had priests, bishops, churches, cathedrals. But all of them were using the new "Book of Common Prayer" instead of the Catholic Mass. Ordinary lay people could see with their own eyes an enormous entity that called itself the "Church," but did the true Church still exist in that situation? Meanwhile, in small hiding places in certain homes were a handful of true priests offering the true Mass at the risk of imprisonment, torture and death.

 
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Re: Separate property in marriage?
« Reply #185 on: January 06, 2021, 12:11:34 PM »
Because riding when you have a pregnant wife is an unacceptable risk.

If your skills suck, then yes.

I did a ride-a-long with a traffic cop once. He said that being the world's best/safest motorcyclist won't save you from a drunk driver, texter, teenage speeder, etc. He had been a traffic cop for 10 years and he's said that he investigated hundreds of motorcycle accidents, so I believe him. My motorcyclist class said the same thing but with stats. I don't have the papers anymore but basically a sizable percentalge of motorcyclist deaths were not the fault of the motorcyclists. Will that be on your tombstone, andy, "At least my skills didn't suck!"? The risk is still many times higher even if you take away the deaths caused by the fault of the motorcyclists.

My wife does not mind it at all. To the contrary, she takes a lot of pride (that good one) from my crazy motorcycle adventures as it makes her stand out in a crowd of feminist and meek women.

As far as the risk goes, there is some, we have to be prudent of course. E.g. I try to avoid routine commute to work. Skillful rider can read the traffic around instinctively and control the situation.

I would say, if a man can take risks and show the control, it lowers a chance of divorce :-). True women despise vague boys.
 

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Re: Separate property in marriage?
« Reply #186 on: November 04, 2021, 08:12:19 AM »
I've just this thread from the beginning and found it really fascinating.

Can't think why it ended. GOG is still here so presumably he hasn't married yet.
I think Jayne would marry him if she were younger.  ;D
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Re: Separate property in marriage?
« Reply #187 on: November 04, 2021, 11:11:00 AM »
I think Jayne would marry him if she were younger.  ;D

That literally goes against every ethos of her people
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Re: Separate property in marriage?
« Reply #188 on: November 15, 2021, 02:49:56 PM »
I've just this thread from the beginning and found it really fascinating.

Can't think why it ended. GOG is still here so presumably he hasn't married yet.
I think Jayne would marry him if she were younger.  ;D

I am already married.  If we imagine an alternate reality in which I did not marry, I am not sure that I would be Catholic, since my husband's influence was instrumental in my joining the Church.

I see nothing in GoG's views of property in marriage that would make him a bad husband, but this is not a matter of personal interest for me, just a theoretical question.  Still, if someone as obnoxious as Laus could find someone wiling to marry him then anybody could, so I see no reason for GoG to give up hope.
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Re: Separate property in marriage?
« Reply #189 on: November 15, 2021, 03:46:20 PM »
Me, when I bring the virtue signallers down to my petty level:

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Re: Separate property in marriage?
« Reply #190 on: November 15, 2021, 04:41:35 PM »
Me, when I bring the virtue signallers down to my petty level:

If I were at your level I would have insulted you back every time you made one of your little digs at me.  I still have a way to go to become as petty as you. 
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