Anybody following the Trump trial?

Started by Bernadette, May 29, 2024, 08:48:13 AM

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Greg

is anyone still of the opinion that Trump is controlled opposition and it is all just an act?

A billionaire who used to be popular, liked being popular but stood for election and is now a convicted felon.  I fail to see what Donald Trump or his family gained from it.  Did being the President make him richer?
If I used a ouija board as a mouse mat would my desktop computer get repossessed?

LausTibiChriste

Quote from: Greg on May 30, 2024, 11:28:37 PMis anyone still of the opinion that Trump is controlled opposition and it is all just an act?

Even more so now
Lord Jesus Christ, Son Of God, Have Mercy On Me A Sinner

Bernadette

Quote from: Greg on May 30, 2024, 11:28:37 PMis anyone still of the opinion that Trump is controlled opposition and it is all just an act?

A billionaire who used to be popular, liked being popular but stood for election and is now a convicted felon.  I fail to see what Donald Trump or his family gained from it.  Did being the President make him richer?
I've often wondered if he regrets running for president and being elected. His life seemed to go downhill from there.
My Lord and my God.
Ven. Matt Talbot, pray for Tom.

LausTibiChriste

Quote from: Greg on May 30, 2024, 11:28:37 PMis anyone still of the opinion that Trump is controlled opposition and it is all just an act?

A billionaire who used to be popular, liked being popular but stood for election and is now a convicted felon.  I fail to see what Donald Trump or his family gained from it.  Did being the President make him richer?

Then why go for a second term? Because he's a highly altruistic, American loving patriot? What a pile of baloney.
Lord Jesus Christ, Son Of God, Have Mercy On Me A Sinner

josh987654321

#19
Quote from: LausTibiChriste on May 31, 2024, 05:46:21 AMThen why go for a second term? Because he's a highly altruistic, American loving patriot? What a pile of baloney.

What good is ones wealth etc if the nation collapses, either economically or through WWIII? Trump and his family live in the USA, where do they go?

The bureaucrats rely on their corruption for their wealth and way of life, so even though the bridge is out ahead, they cannot let go and so therefore keep going regardless... even accelerating. Trump on the other hand already made his money so if the bridge is out ahead, he should have every incentive to stop the car.

If there were any blackmail left on him, they would've used it by now, if he wanted to put it all behind him and move on with these deeply corrupt and evil elites, they've likely persecuted him too much for that now, one just needs to pray for him IMO lest he get deceived by these snakes again, as that swamp is very thick and has infiltrated almost everything.

We will see anyway, it's the best shot the USA and consequently the west has IMO. 

God Bless
"I will not delude you with prospects of peace and consolations; on the contrary, prepare for great battles. Know that you are now on a great stage where all heaven and earth are watching you. Fight like a knight, so that I can reward you. Do not be unduly fearful, because you are not alone." (Diary, 1760)

"It is in My Passion that you must seek light and strength." (Diary, 654)

"I never reject a contrite heart." (Diary, 1485)

Bernadette

Quote from: LausTibiChriste on May 31, 2024, 05:46:21 AM
Quote from: Greg on May 30, 2024, 11:28:37 PMis anyone still of the opinion that Trump is controlled opposition and it is all just an act?

A billionaire who used to be popular, liked being popular but stood for election and is now a convicted felon.  I fail to see what Donald Trump or his family gained from it.  Did being the President make him richer?

Then why go for a second term? Because he's a highly altruistic, American loving patriot? What a pile of baloney.
Probably because he wants to stay out of prison, I would think.
My Lord and my God.
Ven. Matt Talbot, pray for Tom.

clau clau

#21
Perhaps a good time to re-read 'The Bonfire of the Vanities'



Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud, hatch out!
"You must be mad," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here" - Lewis Carroll

But when he's dumb and no more here,
Nineteen hundred years or near,
Clau-Clau-Claudius shall speak clear.
(https://completeandunabridged.blogspot.com/2009/06/i-claudius.html)

Miriam_M

Quote from: Michael Wilson on May 30, 2024, 05:27:08 PMIt demonstrates how morally bankrupt our Country is, way beyond anything I thought was the case, before all of these trials started.

Ditto.  I was stunned at the verdict.  To a person, all of the legal commentators have focused not only on this trial or its defendant but the danger that has already materialized regarding how the institutions of justice are operating in this country. The legal and other commentators have all foregone partisanship to register genuine dismay and alarm about the larger issues of justice and the aims of justice.  I suppose to that extent I can take comfort that there are still men and women in the profession who care about the ideal of justice itself.

However...
For me, this is one more sign that we are in End Times.  Yesterday in class I was instructing my student about End Times.  It came up because he, an agnostic who is an international student (Chinese), did not understand the allusions Andrew Marvell was making about time in the poem, "To His Coy Mistress."  After I briefly explained the philosophical context, my student looked at me and said, "I think we are in End Times."

Pleasantly surprised at his insight, I asked him why he made the remark. He said, "because of the chaos all around us -- look at everything -- economics, politics, everything.  It is simply getting worse and worse."  It is to be noted that I had never previously discussed with him the state of the contemporary world; this came solely from him. And clearly he does not come from any faith tradition.

If you have any opportunities for influence in the world outside your own family, my suggestion would be to concentrate on the young generation. Influence them while you can.  (My student asked me yesterday if I thought End Times would happen in my lifetime; I said, I don't know, but probably in yours, and only those mentally prepared for it will survive. I essentially told him to get strong and be prepared for battle. He got the message.)


Melkite

Quote from: LausTibiChriste on May 31, 2024, 05:46:21 AM
Quote from: Greg on May 30, 2024, 11:28:37 PMis anyone still of the opinion that Trump is controlled opposition and it is all just an act?

A billionaire who used to be popular, liked being popular but stood for election and is now a convicted felon.  I fail to see what Donald Trump or his family gained from it.  Did being the President make him richer?

Then why go for a second term? Because he's a highly altruistic, American loving patriot? What a pile of baloney.

Trump is an antichrist, plain and simple.  I hope his Christian supporters understand that's what they are voting for.

josh987654321

"I will not delude you with prospects of peace and consolations; on the contrary, prepare for great battles. Know that you are now on a great stage where all heaven and earth are watching you. Fight like a knight, so that I can reward you. Do not be unduly fearful, because you are not alone." (Diary, 1760)

"It is in My Passion that you must seek light and strength." (Diary, 654)

"I never reject a contrite heart." (Diary, 1485)

Bonaventure

Quote from: Greg on May 30, 2024, 11:28:37 PMis anyone still of the opinion that Trump is controlled opposition and it is all just an act?

A billionaire who used to be popular, liked being popular but stood for election and is now a convicted felon.  I fail to see what Donald Trump or his family gained from it.  Did being the President make him richer?

I don't think controlled op means that he takes phone calls from Lord Rothschild, masons, or other Jews every night, nor that he lights a black candle and bows to a pentagram.

It's more of, whether he knows it or not, and whether his supporters know it or not, he is still promoting the ClownWorld/GloboHomo agenda, and really isn't some bulwark against it.

Even the clearly worse options, like Joe, Hillary, Obama, Merkel, they weren't getting texts from Jews every minute.

The same can be said for Novus Ordo churchmen. JP2, Paul VI, Ratzo, Jorge, McCarrick, these men were and are hell bent on destroying Catholicism, but I don't think most of them were getting orders Mission Impossible style.

It's the same as when the SSPX attacked ED/Indult/Motu communities. Most people who are "in full communion" trads are good and devout, including the priest.

However, there is no denying that the Vatican views them as controlled opposition and a chess piece to use against the SSPX.

Why have so many FSSP or ICRSS communities been founded when there was an SSPX presence?

Controlled op.
Put not your trust in princes, in sons of men in whom there is no salvation. When his breath departs he returns to his earth; on that very day his plans perish.

Bonaventure

Quote from: LausTibiChriste on May 30, 2024, 11:32:03 PM
Quote from: Greg on May 30, 2024, 11:28:37 PMis anyone still of the opinion that Trump is controlled opposition and it is all just an act?

Even more so now

It actually helps him with his Maga Hive Mind supporters.

The same saps who were dumb enough to believe in Stop the Steal.
Put not your trust in princes, in sons of men in whom there is no salvation. When his breath departs he returns to his earth; on that very day his plans perish.

LausTibiChriste

Quote from: Bonaventure on May 31, 2024, 10:25:28 AM
Quote from: LausTibiChriste on May 30, 2024, 11:32:03 PM
Quote from: Greg on May 30, 2024, 11:28:37 PMis anyone still of the opinion that Trump is controlled opposition and it is all just an act?

Even more so now

It actually helps him with his Maga Hive Mind supporters.

The same saps who were dumb enough to believe in Stop the Steal.

Precisely
Lord Jesus Christ, Son Of God, Have Mercy On Me A Sinner

josh987654321

#28
Quote from: Melkite on May 31, 2024, 09:42:22 AMTrump is an antichrist, plain and simple.  I hope his Christian supporters understand that's what they are voting for.

What and Biden and his cronies aren't? Shall we just go right on running into WWIII? Of course there is a risk, but an absolute certainty of total destruction with the current status quo, so if you don't have anything constructive then what's the point of this?

Napoleon was a type of Antichrist, now Napoleon was 100% right to challenge the corrupt bureaucrats of France's revolutionary government, many of whom were part of or at least enablers of the reign of terror etc.

However, Napoleon took power through the Brumaire coup, Trump is not taking power through any coup, that is what Biden and his cronies did when they released COVID 19 in order to radically change election procedures and oust Trump (among other very dark agendas). 

So there is a risk, which is why we should pray for him, but it's pretty clear cut, as the alternative (status quo) is abundantly clear at this point and needs to be stopped, as well as bringing to light all their massive crimes over many years and all the corrupt leaders they've installed in their vassal states throughout the world including the Vatican.

God Bless
"I will not delude you with prospects of peace and consolations; on the contrary, prepare for great battles. Know that you are now on a great stage where all heaven and earth are watching you. Fight like a knight, so that I can reward you. Do not be unduly fearful, because you are not alone." (Diary, 1760)

"It is in My Passion that you must seek light and strength." (Diary, 654)

"I never reject a contrite heart." (Diary, 1485)

josh987654321

#29
Quote from: Bonaventure on May 31, 2024, 10:24:49 AMIt's more of, whether he knows it or not, and whether his supporters know it or not, he is still promoting the ClownWorld/GloboHomo agenda, and really isn't some bulwark against it.

Now do Constantine the Great... or Vladimir Putin for that matter, who used to be part of the KGB and Constantine the Great was a pagan, or you could do Boris Yeltsin, long time Communist Party member.

When moving into the new era, you need someone from the old guard to take down the old guard.

Now this can go either way, which is why they need our prayers IMO. It is however abundantly clear, that Biden and his deeply evil and corrupt cronies throughout the western world need to go down if there is to be any chance.

God Bless
"I will not delude you with prospects of peace and consolations; on the contrary, prepare for great battles. Know that you are now on a great stage where all heaven and earth are watching you. Fight like a knight, so that I can reward you. Do not be unduly fearful, because you are not alone." (Diary, 1760)

"It is in My Passion that you must seek light and strength." (Diary, 654)

"I never reject a contrite heart." (Diary, 1485)