Carrie Underwood concert

[LouisIX]

I guess it looks too "costume" to me to make a big deal over it. Those dresses are ridiculous and no one wears things like that in every day life.

I never thought Trads would be interested  in Carrie Underwood concerts, or going to secular pop concerts in general.  One learns something new everyday.

I wouldn't go see crap like Carrie Underwood, but I go to secular concerts a lot. I've never seen a brawl 

Oh, I don't know about that.  I've seen some real dangerous situations at Sufjan shows.

[OCLittleFlower]

But seriously......Carrie Underwood? I hope you don't mistake her for a country artist.

TTHHHAAANNNK YOUUU!! Seriously isn't she getting tired of writing songs about revenge. Before he Cheats/Undo it/Blown away/Two Black Cadillacs. She is getting as repetative as that trollop Taylor Swift WHO ALSO IS NOOOTTT COUNTRY.

Well, I hate to break it to you, Carrie has won every country music award there is to win. So, if Carrie isn't country, then you better tell that to the country music guru's in Nashville.

This.  The whole "country-pop isn't country" thing doesn't make sense to me.  By that definition, Patsy Cline wasn't country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nashville_sound

[LouisIX]

The only real country is bluegrass. 

[erin is nice]

I guess it looks too "costume" to me to make a big deal over it. Those dresses are ridiculous and no one wears things like that in every day life.

I never thought Trads would be interested  in Carrie Underwood concerts, or going to secular pop concerts in general.  One learns something new everyday.

I wouldn't go see crap like Carrie Underwood, but I go to secular concerts a lot. I've never seen a brawl 

Oh, I don't know about that.  I've seen some real dangerous situations at Sufjan shows.

I want to be in a dangerous situation with Sufjan 

[Kaesekopf]

I guess it looks too "costume" to me to make a big deal over it.

Yet, in addition to endorsing today's brothel culture, it induces thousands and millions of men to commit lust and various related mortal sins. But no big deal.

Because she forces these men to view her as a sexual object to be used, abused, and tossed aside after the men get their jollies off, right?

[Bonaventure]

I guess it looks too "costume" to me to make a big deal over it.

Yet, in addition to endorsing today's brothel culture, it induces thousands and millions of men to commit lust and various related mortal sins. But no big deal.

Do those images arouse you? Is it so bad that you have to close your window?

[kayla_veronica]

I guess it looks too "costume" to me to make a big deal over it.

Yet, in addition to endorsing today's brothel culture, it induces thousands and millions of men to commit lust and various related mortal sins. But no big deal.

Do those images arouse you? Is it so bad that you have to close your window?

How is this an appropriate/relevant comment? "Letting it all hang out" certainly will lead some men to lust. Do we really need to get more detailed than that on a public forum?

[Alphonsus Jr.]

Listen:

http://www.audiosancto.org/sermon/20120422-Modesty-Scandal-Purity-and-Caring-for-Our-Neighbor.html

[Bonaventure]

I guess it looks too "costume" to me to make a big deal over it.

Yet, in addition to endorsing today's brothel culture, it induces thousands and millions of men to commit lust and various related mortal sins. But no big deal.

Do those images arouse you? Is it so bad that you have to close your window?

How is this an appropriate/relevant comment? "Letting it all hang out" certainly will lead some men to lust. Do we really need to get more detailed than that on a public forum?

I think the man is making a mountain of a molehill, acting as it these pictures are inciting him to lust.

[Mithrandylan]

I guess it looks too "costume" to me to make a big deal over it.

Yet, in addition to endorsing today's brothel culture, it induces thousands and millions of men to commit lust and various related mortal sins. But no big deal.

Do those images arouse you? Is it so bad that you have to close your window?

How is this an appropriate/relevant comment? "Letting it all hang out" certainly will lead some men to lust. Do we really need to get more detailed than that on a public forum?

I think the man is making a mountain of a molehill, acting as it these pictures are inciting him to lust.

If a man is not bothered by these pictures (that spectrum starting at simply being 'offended' all the way to positively committing an impure act) then something is wrong with that man.  We shouldn't be desensitized to the point that when these pictures are shown to us that we shrug our shoulders and think it normal, or that others should relax.  I understand that desensitization is real, and I do not suggest that a person is sinfully culpable for not being affected by such images, but these images don't have a place in a Catholic's life.  I still think they should be taken down.  I don't think this is an unreasonable request. 

[Alphonsus Jr.]

If a man is not bothered by these pictures (that spectrum starting at simply being 'offended' all the way to positively committing an impure act) then something is wrong with that man.  We shouldn't be desensitized to the point that when these pictures are shown to us that we shrug our shoulders and think it normal, or that others should relax. 

Fully agreed. I'm reminded of a devastating passage from the heathen Neil Postman's great polemic against television, Amusing Ourselves to Death:

There is no more disturbing consequence of the electronic and graphic revolution than this: that the world as given to us through television seems natural, not bizarre. For the loss of the sense of the strange is a sign of adjustment, and the extent to which we have adjusted is a measure of the extent to which we have been changed. Our culture's adjustment to the epistemology of television is by now all but complete; we have so thoroughly accepted its definitions of truth, knowledge, and reality that irrelevance seems to us to be filled with import, and incoherence seems eminently sane. And if some of our institutions seem not to fit the template of the times, why it is they, and not the template, that seem to us disordered and strange....Television is the soma of Aldous Huxley's Brave New World.

What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egoism. Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance. Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies, the orgy porgy, and the centrifugal bumblepuppy. As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny "failed to take into account man's almost infinite appetite for distractions." In 1984, Orwell added, people are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that what we fear will ruin us. Huxley feared that what we desire will ruin us.

[LouisIX]

I agree that they probably should be taken down.  My desensitization doesn't affect the eyes of others, especially younger lads.  I remember being 15 once.

Better safe than sorry.  My two cents.

[Petertherock]

Again, I will say I have seen women and girls dressed like that on the beach...and even worse, at NO Churches. I am not saying it's right...but you can't make believe this dress is something outside of main stream culture.

[LouisIX]

Unfortunately it's quite common.

[Jayne]

Again, I will say I have seen women and girls dressed like that on the beach...and even worse, at NO Churches. I am not saying it's right...but you can't make believe this dress is something outside of main stream culture.

I agree with you.  This clothing is acceptable to main stream culture.  And, even though we are heavily influenced by this culture, somehow we need to learn more godly standards.  This is extremely difficult, especially since so many of us have become desensitized.  It is like relearning to see.

I like the idea of taking down the pictures.  To me it symbolizes our rejection of society's standard of clothing and our resolve to develop one that is pleasing to God.