TV You're Watching

Started by piabee, August 02, 2013, 01:22:11 AM

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Season 1 Alpha House. Amusing rather than funny. Fair amount of vulgarity.
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Quote from: Jayne on February 02, 2015, 08:22:53 AM
I noticed Netflix was carrying Fated to Love You and decided to try it since Maximilian had recommended Korean TV. I can't remember the last time I enjoyed a show this much.  It is engaging and has underlying values that I actually agree with.

There was an episode in which a character was planning an abortion and just about every other character realized that this is a horrible thing and was trying to stop her.  I doubt that a Western show would even try such a thing or get away with it if they did try.

That's a relief. When I first started reading your post, I was worried that your experience might have been the opposite. I've only seen less than a dozen series, and so who knows what kind of terrible things could be lurking in all the hundreds of series that I haven't watched?

I could just imagine you saying, "Maximilian recommended Korean drama, and just look at the horrible things that were in the series that I watched."

I'm glad you're enjoying the show, and actually it looks rather promising. This is a very standard motif in Korean drama. Usually, however, the reason why the low-level office lady and the company president get together is because their grandfathers were best friends and promised them to each other. This one-night-stand plot element is a bit different, but the rest of the series probably follows the same major conventions.

One classic example is "Goong." The conceit of this series is that the Korean Royal Family still exists in a constitutional monarchy like England. A very ordinary high-school girl finds out one day that she was engaged at her birth to be married to the crown prince. Then lots of drama ensues. But you can see how it has the same basic "Cinderella" storyline as the series you're watching.

For future reference, compared to Korean television, Japanese television is a real minefield where you have to carefully choose a small number of good shows amidst a sea of trash that sometimes crosses the line into pornography.

Korean broadcast, in contrast, is heavily censored, and so even while there are a lot of shows that look stupid and pointless, they are prevented by law from crossing certain lines, so they can never be really so terrible.

Jayne

I had misgivings about the "one night stand" device when I read it in the description, but it was actually done in a way that was not offensive, although it involved a convoluted and improbable series of events.  And they were both as horrified by it afterwards as they should have been.

At any rate, Maximilian, your record of giving me good recommendations remains intact.   :)
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Quote from: Bernadette on February 02, 2015, 08:28:50 AM

Atsu Hime (Princess Atsu) Tells the life story of the woman who became the wife of the 13th Shogun, at the time when Japan first opened its ports to trade with the West. Fascinating. I especially appreciate the sense of duty, and how selfless the main characters are.

This looks like it could be very good. Thanks for this recommendation.

Where are you watching it? On-line, or it seems like you own some Japanese videos?

Maximilian

Quote from: Maximilian on February 02, 2015, 01:50:04 PM
Quote from: Bernadette on February 02, 2015, 08:28:50 AM

Atsu Hime (Princess Atsu) Tells the life story of the woman who became the wife of the 13th Shogun, at the time when Japan first opened its ports to trade with the West. Fascinating. I especially appreciate the sense of duty, and how selfless the main characters are.

This looks like it could be very good. Thanks for this recommendation.

Where are you watching it? On-line, or it seems like you own some Japanese videos?

Found it here:

http://www.gooddrama.net/japanese-drama/atsu-hime

They also have the other series that you mentioned:

http://www.gooddrama.net/japanese-drama/ashita-mama-ga-inai

Bernadette

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Quote from: Maximilian on February 02, 2015, 02:04:05 PM
Found it here:

http://www.gooddrama.net/japanese-drama/atsu-hime

They also have the other series that you mentioned:

http://www.gooddrama.net/japanese-drama/ashita-mama-ga-inai

Yes, that's right. Atsu Hime turns out to be a Taiga Drama: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiga_drama. Oshin was a "morning drama," which is why the episodes are so short and there are so many of them. 

My grandma's videos were, sadly, thrown out after she died, since no one else in the family speaks Japanese well enough to watch them. I'm only to the point now where I can pick up phrases and words, but these Japanese shows online are really helping.  :)

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Quote from: Maximilian on February 02, 2015, 11:55:27 AM
For future reference, compared to Korean television, Japanese television is a real minefield where you have to carefully choose a small number of good shows amidst a sea of trash that sometimes crosses the line into pornography.

Korean broadcast, in contrast, is heavily censored, and so even while there are a lot of shows that look stupid and pointless, they are prevented by law from crossing certain lines, so they can never be really so terrible.

Pinocchio is one of the few series that I don't think I need to check reviews before watching it. Also, I stopped caring about spoilers and such since some time ago. I'd rather read some spoiler in a wiki or review that to watch something morally objectionable in a show.

Something I dislike, is how some series have high quality in artwork and designs, but have various objectionable elements. A waste of talent. And, shows like that, are one of the types that lots of people are more prone to try to find excuses to watch them, or to defend them.

Maximilian

Quote from: Cesar_Augustus on February 02, 2015, 11:54:16 PM
Quote from: Maximilian on February 02, 2015, 11:55:27 AM
For future reference, compared to Korean television, Japanese television is a real minefield where you have to carefully choose a small number of good shows amidst a sea of trash that sometimes crosses the line into pornography.

Korean broadcast, in contrast, is heavily censored, and so even while there are a lot of shows that look stupid and pointless, they are prevented by law from crossing certain lines, so they can never be really so terrible.

Pinocchio is one of the few series that I don't think I need to check reviews before watching it. Also, I stopped caring about spoilers and such since some time ago. I'd rather read some spoiler in a wiki or review that to watch something morally objectionable in a show.

Something I dislike, is how some series have high quality in artwork and designs, but have various objectionable elements. A waste of talent. And, shows like that, are one of the types that lots of people are more prone to try to find excuses to watch them, or to defend them.

Yes, I agree that you should check every series before watching it, even the Korean ones and not just the Japanese. And a lot of the Korean ones I wouldn't consider watching. Still, the limit of how bad they can be is less than television from Japan or America.

Cesar_Augustus

Quote from: Maximilian on February 03, 2015, 06:43:54 AM
Quote from: Cesar_Augustus on February 02, 2015, 11:54:16 PM
Quote from: Maximilian on February 02, 2015, 11:55:27 AM
For future reference, compared to Korean television, Japanese television is a real minefield where you have to carefully choose a small number of good shows amidst a sea of trash that sometimes crosses the line into pornography.

Korean broadcast, in contrast, is heavily censored, and so even while there are a lot of shows that look stupid and pointless, they are prevented by law from crossing certain lines, so they can never be really so terrible.

Pinocchio is one of the few series that I don't think I need to check reviews before watching it. Also, I stopped caring about spoilers and such since some time ago. I'd rather read some spoiler in a wiki or review that to watch something morally objectionable in a show.

Something I dislike, is how some series have high quality in artwork and designs, but have various objectionable elements. A waste of talent. And, shows like that, are one of the types that lots of people are more prone to try to find excuses to watch them, or to defend them.

Yes, I agree that you should check every series before watching it, even the Korean ones and not just the Japanese. And a lot of the Korean ones I wouldn't consider watching. Still, the limit of how bad they can be is less than television from Japan or America.

I do do that, for the majority of series, and movies.

In the recent years I've found the admiration some people have (even Catholics) towards various objectionable series as something worrying. Various elements of fan subcultures too.

Art, series, etc, don't reside in a vacuum, these are not outside morality.

Maximilian

Quote from: Cesar_Augustus on February 03, 2015, 07:49:59 AM

In the recent years I've found the admiration some people have (even Catholics) towards various objectionable series as something worrying. Various elements of fan subcultures too.

Art, series, etc, don't reside in a vacuum, these are not outside morality.

Yes, these are both good points.

Cesar_Augustus

Quote from: Maximilian on February 03, 2015, 07:58:07 AM
Quote from: Cesar_Augustus on February 03, 2015, 07:49:59 AM

In the recent years I've found the admiration some people have (even Catholics) towards various objectionable series as something worrying. Various elements of fan subcultures too.

Art, series, etc, don't reside in a vacuum, these are not outside morality.

Yes, these are both good points.

Being "art", or having various types of messages, symbolism, etc, are some of the common excuses I've seen.

There are lots of low quality vulgar series, and not many are going to even try to defend them, but the high quality ones? ah, that's one of the most frustrating things in these topics.

The people working on series like that could do so much good if they produced better things.

Arun

Quote from: Maximilian on February 03, 2015, 07:58:07 AM
Quote from: Cesar_Augustus on February 03, 2015, 07:49:59 AM

In the recent years I've found the admiration some people have (even Catholics) towards various objectionable series as something worrying. Various elements of fan subcultures too.

Art, series, etc, don't reside in a vacuum, these are not outside morality.

Yes, these are both good points.

so is the nudity on the sisteen ceiling immoral because the "it's art" excuse is invalid..?


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