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#91

General News and Discussion / Communiqué of the Society of S...

Last post by Geremia - April 15, 2024, 09:00:13 PM

Communiqué of the Society of Saint Pius X
April 15, 2024
Source: District of the USA
     
The American and Canadian districts of the Society of Saint Pius X are deeply affected by the conduct of their former District Superior, whose actions have wounded many souls and scandalized countless others.
On 4th April 2024, appearing before the criminal court in Gap (France), he admitted to sexual offences against minors, which occurred in France between 2003 and 2006, as part of his work with young people, and then again in 2013 and 2018 in a private context, also in France.
As far as we know, no crime was committed by this priest in the United States or Canada.
The Society of Saint Pius X does not have words strong enough to condemn these acts, which have irreparable consequences. It wishes to express its profound compassion for the victims, who it intends to support and help, as much as possible. It deeply regrets not having been able to protect the children entrusted to its care, and having placed its trust in this priest.
In 2014, after ambiguous and inappropriate attitudes were brought to their attention, the Society's Superiors withdrew the incriminated priest from the apostolate, entrusting him with administrative tasks without any responsibility, and under appropriate disciplinary supervision, firstly in Switzerland and then in Canada from 2019.
After his arrival in Canada, the Society's Superiors became aware of the existence of offences, under the jurisdiction of the courts, and they immediately reported them to the judicial authorities, in accordance with the norms in force in our society, and strengthened his disciplinary framework. Following this report, the necessary investigations were launched, culminating in the recent trial.
At no time and in no way were the actions of this priest covered-up by his Superiors.
Deeply distressed by this affair, the Society of Saint Pius X reaffirms its unwavering determination to do everything in its power to prevent the tragedy of pedophilia, and in particularly where priests are concerned. Its plan of vigilance for the protection of minors is the subject of regular reminders.
The Society of Saint Pius X also asks that we pray for the victims, who have been permanently wounded, after having their trust betrayed. It also asks that we pray for priests and for the Catholic Church, which has been tarnished by this new scandal.
sspx.org - 04/15/2024

#92

General Catholic Discussion / Re: Fr Shannon Collins suspend...

Last post by Bonaventure - April 15, 2024, 07:13:52 PM

Never heard of him.

[That savors of Dogmatic Sedevacantism, and goes contrary to the policy and rules of this forum - which is officially opionist.]

#93

The Sedevacantist Thesis / Re: Sedevacantists and Akita

Last post by Bonaventure - April 15, 2024, 07:12:19 PM

Whatever theory ends up being correct, ultimately, only God will be able fix and solve this crisis. He will do so in such a clear fashion, that no men will be able to take even a morsel of credit.

That's why my days of being a keyboard warrior are mostly behind me. Bergoglio will continue to spew heresy. I will still have to fulfill my duties of state.

Convincing others that my position is the correct one, and stating that FSSPers, SSPXers, and even the Archbishop himself, are taking a position that is aligned with enemies of the Church - where does that get anyone? That savors of Dogmatic Sedevacantism, and goes contrary to the policy and rules of this forum - which is officially opionist.

If everyone on this forum, every single member, embraced Sede Vacante tomorrow, would that change anything?

Let's say that tomorrow, the Superiors General of the SSPX, FSSP, ICRSS, and all "regularized" trads embraced SV. Let's then say that all SV clergy - SGG, CMRI, even SSPV, all met up, conditionally consecrated and ordained everyone so that there were 0 doubts as to validity, did the same to all of the "Ecclesia Dei" or "motu" clergy, and we have all trad clergy officially Sedevacantist.

Would that solve the crisis? No - only God would. The NO apparatus would still continue on, and will continue on, until God decides to end this.

That's why, I am at the point in my life where I don't pay attention to the correct theory- whether the SSPX is right and Rome "converts," the totalist Sedes are right, the CT people are right, an eastern bloc "bishop in the woods" emerges, Siri was actually pope in exile and has his own hierarchy, etc  it is going to take a miracle (such as the conversion of Bergoglio), just for the first domino to fall.

I often think of where I was in 2005, or 2006, trying my best to live Catholicism "in the parish," and then, as an FSSPer, SSPXer, and so on. I try to remain humble that this is a long journey that takes decades, and is still not over.

The only people I can think of that immediately declared and went SV in the late 1960s were Francis Schuckhardt and Joaquin Saenz Arriaga. Literally everyone else on earth was a "recognize and resister," at some point.

As to your bolded.  If you think my point that those who think a Catholic pope can teach heresy and error to the universal church think similarly to those who have been against the papacy and the Catholic Church is the same as dogmatic sedevacantism, then ban me. I don't think it's the same thing, but I'm not going to pussy foot around here.  I'm guessing there are a few posters who will be very happy with that.

The policy of the forum has been posted and stickied since 2014, 7 years before you even registered here.

Dogmatic sedevacantism may be said to be a general attitude toward the current crisis in the Church which regards the state of the Seat of Peter to be practically de fide.  This means that one who believes that the Seat is currently occupied has lost their Catholicity (or, at the very least, experiences a dramatically reduced Catholicity) due to grave error which is likely at least materially heretical.

Dogmatic sedevacantism is forbidden on this forum and is subject to moderation.  While Suscipe Domine is a sedeplenist forum, sedevacantists are welcome to post here in all sub-fora.  However, it is also the stance of the forum that the question of the loss of a valid papacy in the occasion of heresy is an open one among Catholics with no binding, universal Magisterial teaching on the subject.  Therefore, Catholics are free to hold varying opinions on the legitimacy of the post-Conciliar papacies.  Any posts which claim or even imply a superiority in the faithfulness or orthodoxy of Catholics who hold a varying opinion on the state of the papacy will be subject to discipline.

See: https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=8151.0

#94

General News and Discussion / Re: WW3 Has Begun - Iran launc...

Last post by james03 - April 15, 2024, 06:36:27 PM

Ambassador Simona Halperin had earlier told the Russian state news agency RIA Novosti that her country expects "our Russian colleagues to condemn the unprecedented Iranian attack on Israeli territory."

In a post on her Telegram channel on Sunday, spokeswoman Maria Zakharova, responded: "Simona, remind me of when Israel condemned even a single strike by the Kiev regime on Russian regions? You don't know? Nor do I."

Good job team Russia.

#95

General News and Discussion / Re: WW3 Has Begun - Iran launc...

Last post by james03 - April 15, 2024, 06:35:24 PM

They used the Sunni tribe to carry it out.

#96

General Catholic Discussion / Fr Shannon Collins suspended

Last post by crossingtherubicon - April 15, 2024, 06:30:35 PM

https://www.ncronline.org/news/kentucky-bishop-removes-two-priests-faculties-denigrating-post-vatican-ii-mass

https://www.complicitclergy.com/2024/01/18/listen-the-homily-that-resulted-in-the-cancellation-of-two-kentucky-priests/

Where these priests had a wealth of sermons and missions, website now shut down. 
http://www.reginaprophetarum.org
 

#97

The Coffee Pot / Re: interesting purchase you m...

Last post by Mushroom - April 15, 2024, 06:19:23 PM

Put in a deposit for a Great Pyrenees puppy. Will be getting her in a little more than a week. We wanted something to protect our property from trespassers and guard the chickens and future animals from predators. Might get a second one in a few years. We've never had dogs growing up so this kind of a big deal.

Got the puppy today, she's pretty homesick though but she did get to see our chickens.

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#98

Ask a Traditionalist / Re: Gospel of Matthew and the ...

Last post by aquinas138 - April 15, 2024, 06:12:09 PM

What Jews reject the Talmud?

Karaite Jews, for instance, do not believe the "Oral Torah", i.e., Talmud and Midrash, to be binding. According to them, only the Tanakh is supreme in halakha and in theology.

[even intellectually.]

#99

The Sedevacantist Thesis / Re: Sedevacantists and Akita

Last post by Miriam_M - April 15, 2024, 05:55:04 PM

Whatever theory ends up being correct, ultimately, only God will be able fix and solve this crisis. He will do so in such a clear fashion, that no men will be able to take even a morsel of credit.

That's why my days of being a keyboard warrior are mostly behind me. Bergoglio will continue to spew heresy. I will still have to fulfill my duties of state.

Convincing others that my position is the correct one, and stating that FSSPers, SSPXers, and even the Archbishop himself, are taking a position that is aligned with enemies of the Church - where does that get anyone? That savors of Dogmatic Sedevacantism, and goes contrary to the policy and rules of this forum - which is officially opionist.

If everyone on this forum, every single member, embraced Sede Vacante tomorrow, would that change anything?

Let's say that tomorrow, the Superiors General of the SSPX, FSSP, ICRSS, and all "regularized" trads embraced SV. Let's then say that all SV clergy - SGG, CMRI, even SSPV, all met up, conditionally consecrated and ordained everyone so that there were 0 doubts as to validity, did the same to all of the "Ecclesia Dei" or "motu" clergy, and we have all trad clergy officially Sedevacantist.

Would that solve the crisis? No - only God would. The NO apparatus would still continue on, and will continue on, until God decides to end this.
 

And not only will such a scenario not (by itself) solve the crisis in Rome, it will have no effect on our personal salvations. A few of us have said the latter repeatedly.  It will do no good at my Personal Judgment to claim that any sins of mine are excused by a rotting papacy ("because" I had no decent Pope to follow, and supposedly I was deserving of a better one). I have the exact same moral culpability  that I would have if Pope St. Pius X or some other reliable pope were in office during my lifetime.

(1) Lay people have zero responsibility to solve the crisis in Rome even intellectually.
(2) Lay people have no responsibility to resolve the crisis on a personal level, either.  If it is God's judgment, at my death, that I should have "made a decision" about PF or whoever, He will surprise me with that news at that time, and until then, no one is authorized to tell any other Catholic about a manufactured moral responsibility to "figure it all out."

We are responsible to comply with divine positive law and the precepts of the Church whether or not PF is doing so and whether or not he imagines (wrongly) that he is at liberty to change divine law, such as the Sixth Commandment -- and whether or not we make a public statement about what he is doing and the state of his office and his soul.

The people who may very well be held responsible are the clerical personnel involved in a refusal to lead and a refusal to clarify -- a refusal to complete the duties of their own ecclesiastical state in life, which are not a lay person's state in life. We don't have to internalize other people's responsibilities to act on heresy, let alone take the blame for the sins of confused hierarchy or outright heretics. We have plenty of our own sins, and we will be responsible only for those.

Completely agree with Bonaventure that only God can solve this, and even most N.O. priests at this time, not to mention all trad priests I'm acquainted with, are convinced that both the Church and the world are too far gone at this point for either to repair itself without divine intervention.

#100

General News and Discussion / Re: Russians not worried about...

Last post by Heinrich - April 15, 2024, 05:21:41 PM

I miss the Cold War:

https://youtu.be/AWPBr4L1eyE?si=LhiW6nLlbxkv1mJv