Official FSSP Publication - "We rejoice over the canonization of John Paul II"

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August 04, 2014, 12:53:27 PM Last Edit: August 04, 2014, 12:55:58 PM by ADMG
The latest official "Letter to Friends and Benefactors" by the French FSSP district signed by their French district superior expresses the entire fraternity's delight over the canonization of JP2 and John XXIII. Note that this is the FSSP's largest and most important district.

QuoteEditorial June 2014

Dear Friends and Benefactors,
two popes have recently been canonized. Our fraternity, placed under the patronage of St Peter, rejoices in the recognition of the sanctity of his successors. The FSSP was born under the pontificate of John Paul II. He encouraged and gave our founders his blessing (support) in 1988 (...)

Coming from a country where the Faith was persecuted, John Paul II taught Catholics throughout the world to not be afraid to proclaim their faith (...)

"With a giant's strengh, a strengh given by God" (Benedict XVI) he halted the movement of secularization which seemed irreversible and (helped) bring about the fall of communism in Europe.

"This man whose sanctity has been proclaimed by the church does not cease to be our guardian or to show us the way to contemplation of the "Splendor of Truth"

The rest, if you can stomach it (French)

:vomit:

Greg

#1
August 04, 2014, 02:09:59 PM
This sort of shit really makes me wonder what else has been covered up or papered over through history.

People's ability to be willfully blind, enmasse, is very troubling, TO SAY THE LEAST.

How many times in history has a century passed by and people simply sided with the winners and re-written history to justify how the winners came to "win".
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#2
August 04, 2014, 02:16:41 PM
Well, Europe traded communist-driven atheism for material-driven atheism. 

Why the FSSP DisSup lied to his faithful saying that the march of secularism was halted is beyond me.

But, hey, once a compromiser, always a compromiser.  What made you think they'd have a backbone now, after 30 years in the Conciliar apparatus?
Wie dein Sonntag, so dein Sterbetag.

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Older Salt

#3
August 04, 2014, 03:30:21 PM
As Canonisations are infallible, Catholics should rejoice that one of them is in heaven.

Not what that person's opinions may have been, but that he is enjoys the Beatific Vision.
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zork

#4
August 04, 2014, 03:58:47 PM Last Edit: August 04, 2014, 04:09:15 PM by zork
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BigMelvin

#5
August 04, 2014, 04:02:30 PM
Quote from: Older Salt on August 04, 2014, 03:30:21 PM
As Canonisations are infallible, Catholics should rejoice that one of them is in heaven.

Not what that person's opinions may have been, but that he is enjoys the Beatific Vision.

Presumably the rejoicing in the sanctity of the two Popes in the O.P. refers primarily to their papacies, not the sanctity they would be blessed with in heaven, so its about more for the FSSP that anybody enjoying the Beatific Vision :(
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#6
August 04, 2014, 04:20:10 PM
They know where their bread is buttered.

This is disappointing to say the least.
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Sbyvl36

#7
August 04, 2014, 04:23:44 PM
Quote from: Kaesekopf on August 04, 2014, 02:16:41 PM
Well, Europe traded communist-driven atheism for material-driven atheism. 

Why the FSSP DisSup lied to his faithful saying that the march of secularism was halted is beyond me.

But, hey, once a compromiser, always a compromiser.  What made you think they'd have a backbone now, after 30 years in the Conciliar apparatus?

Agreed.  The FSSP is completely spineless.  This is probably just an attempt to kiss up to Rome and gain Francis' favor.
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Kaesekopf

#8
August 04, 2014, 04:55:32 PM
Of course, to be somewhat fair, we also ought recall that a few priests were permitted into the FSSP (wrongly, IMHO) and led to Protocol 1411/99. 

But those guys weren't District Superiors, IIRC.
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Maximilian

#9
August 04, 2014, 06:20:14 PM
Quote from: Greg on August 04, 2014, 02:09:59 PM

How many times in history has a century passed by and people simply sided with the winners and re-written history to justify how the winners came to "win".


Pretty much all the time.

Greg

#10
August 04, 2014, 10:58:20 PM Last Edit: August 04, 2014, 11:05:06 PM by Greg
Kind of makes you wonder about "tradition" then.

What else was ditched historically?

To what extent has the Church caved in and made pragmatic deals with secular powers post Constantine?  Adjusted itself to fit a new cage.

Is Vatican II and the "new springtime" really THAT new a concept or have clerics been behaving like this for centuries and simply burning or burying the witness statements which would leave an historical alternative view?

Let's hypothesise that changes happened in the 8th century and a group local to Rome objected and tried to defend what Rome had previously taught.  Without the printing press, the liberty from the local lord, baron, Prince to raise their concern and with the secular and church powers being able to throw bell book and candle at them, how would their perspective survive?

How do we know Pope X or Y in the past was good when clerics clearly have a tendency to go with the flow and ignore the actions of Popes and objective truths about their pontificate?
Contentment is knowing that you're right. Happiness is knowing that someone else is wrong.

charlesh

#11
August 05, 2014, 02:42:33 AM
With this, the FSSP loses all credibility as an institution. There are probably individual priests, though, who have more personal integrity than their superiors.

Has anybody heard anything of the Institute of Christ the King's official response to the canonization of those two apostates?

dellery

#12
August 05, 2014, 02:58:26 AM
Quote from: charlesh on August 05, 2014, 02:42:33 AM
With this, the FSSP loses all credibility as an institution. There are probably individual priests, though, who have more personal integrity than their superiors.

Has anybody heard anything of the Institute of Christ the King's official response to the canonization of those two apostates?

The Institute parish I attended a few years ago was having Masses said for the Canonization of JPII.
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#13
August 05, 2014, 06:15:57 AM
Quote from: dellery on August 05, 2014, 02:58:26 AM
The Institute parish I attended a few years ago was having Masses said for the Canonization of JPII.

That's hardly indicative of the stance of the entire Institute.  The ICKSP parish I attended on Low Sunday did not even mention their names. 
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Aquila

#14
August 05, 2014, 06:40:00 AM
John Paul II, the patron saint of surrender to the modern world... :vomit:
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