Why are many young women today afraid of being mothers?

Started by Geremia, November 17, 2020, 12:10:49 PM

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Geremia

Why does it seem so many young women today are afraid of being mothers?

(Some hate motherhood so much that they kill their own children, but that's an extreme case. A similar problem, but to a letter degree, seems more prevalent.)

TheReturnofLive

Both men and women are screwed up because of mainstream liberal feminism.

The call of feminism generally is this underlying principle that men and women should feel free to pursue the social roles that they find fulfilling - if a man wants to be more caring with his kids and less of a breadwinner, that's okay; and if a woman wants a career, she should pursue that if she wants.

While arguably flawed, mainstream liberal feminism has interpreted this underlying principle in the most mentally retarded way possible - men need to be more "feminine, emotional, soft, and loving" - and women need to "embrace their sexuality (that is, act as "players"), have a career, and be strong / independent"
And God help you if you think the opposite! That it's okay to have a family where the man is the breadwinner and the mom raises the kids! Such behavior is looked down on by mainstream society today.

Women bought into this because in my experience and with statistical studies, women desire and value social validation and social harmony more than men do. That makes them more generous, loving, and kind people than men typically are, but at the same time that makes them more often than not susceptible to conforming to social trends in a desire to receive social approval.
Women want social validation, so they of course oblige and act more masculine.

The men who buy into feminism tend to be lower quality individuals who, out of a desperate and pitiful attempt to attract a woman, reconstruct their entire identity to fit the feminist narrative that women buy into, hoping that maybe some woman comes along and is impressed by it. Spoilers - doesn't work.
"The task of the modern educator is not to cut down jungles but irrigate deserts." - C.S. Lewis

Daniel


coffeeandcigarette

Quote from: Geremia on November 17, 2020, 12:10:49 PM
Why does it seem so many young women today are afraid of being mothers?

(Some hate motherhood so much that they kill their own children, but that's an extreme case. A similar problem, but to a letter degree, seems more prevalent.)

They are not afraid, they are selfish. The selfishness makes them not want to be mothers, exactly the same way modern men do not want to be fathers.

diaduit

Quote from: coffeeandcigarette on November 17, 2020, 09:29:40 PM
Quote from: Geremia on November 17, 2020, 12:10:49 PM
Why does it seem so many young women today are afraid of being mothers?

(Some hate motherhood so much that they kill their own children, but that's an extreme case. A similar problem, but to a letter degree, seems more prevalent.)

They are not afraid, they are selfish. The selfishness makes them not want to be mothers, exactly the same way modern men do not want to be fathers.

Yes, saturated with love of self.  We have the beauty industry bombarding young girls from the age of 10 where they cake on make up and look like obscene mini drag queens.  As they get older and the figure is important, the love of the body becomes obsessive, gym and jogging and all of course while wearing the latest branded gear.  Constant selfies  plus cheap fashion keeps them hooked. 

james03

They aren't afraid.  They are brainwashed.  The brainwashing is this: " A woman's worth is measured by masculine standards".

So she "pursues" (though never catches) a "career".  She imbues the sexual mores of a secular man.  But she's a woman and deep down despite repressing it, she wants a baby and she wants a masculine man that won't put up with her emotional storms.

At age 28-30 or so, male attention starts to fall off and they start realizing that a "career" is a job with a fun commute, even in cold rainy weather.  So they think they will just go down to the husband store and get a husband.  This period is termed "baby rabies" on the internet (understand 14 year old boys now know about this from the internet).  She discovers all the masculine secular men have discovered the sexual benefits of feminism (free prostitution) and do not want to get married, and all the masculine Christian men are happily married with 2 kids.  So the only thing available is a simping chump, oftentimes already divorced and paying child support..  Some will hold their nose and marry the chump, though a lot go unmarried and will be barren.  (And even ths pool of simping chumps is dwindling as even they discover the scam after reading about it on the internet).

It's also during this period that they go on anti-depressants and buy 2 cats or some other fur-baby.  Note that the marriage rate has hit an all-time low.

On the plus side this means that Trads and conservative Prots are making up a larger percentage of American births (non-American births likely make up the majority now unfortunately).
"But he that doth not believe, is already judged: because he believeth not in the name of the only begotten Son of God (Jn 3:18)."

"All sorrow leads to the foot of the Cross.  Weep for your sins."

"Although He should kill me, I will trust in Him"

coffeeandcigarette

Quote from: james03 on November 18, 2020, 10:00:06 AM
They aren't afraid.  They are brainwashed.  The brainwashing is this: " A woman's worth is measured by masculine standards".

It isn't even this though. They just want to lead their lives however they choose with no strings. Even if a woman had no desire to have a career and wanted to live out in the country on a cute little farm, she would probably want to do it with no kids. The thing about children is that they are a lot of trouble. The moment men invented a sure-fire way to get women unpregnant, they realized that they could have sexual freedom with no consequences. They pushed and pushed women to have abortions. The history of abortion did not begin with women begging to murder their children. It was men telling the women they seduced to kill the children so they could go on living like man-whores with no strings. Women fought against this initially. Now, women have also been convinced of the benefit of a responsibility-free life and they want it too. Men don't want to be fathers. Even the men who have children are rarely good fathers, and mothers are now getting in on the selfishness. Look how many young women are trying to adopt "cottage-core" lifestyles, or dress up and decorate their whole homes like the 1940's/"retro wives"/"time-warp wives"....all with no children; and no paid job. They want to act out classic 20th century female roles, but with no children to get in the way. It is becoming less and less about a career over children. That was simply a Masonic tool to get women to think "oh, well I will be a more valuable/validated member of society with a career, so I won't raise kids." Now, they don't need to validate their decision, they don't need to choose something that is seemingly more important than motherhood, like a career in nursing or teaching. Now they simply have to say they don't want to do it, stomp their foot, and go off into their fantasy dream life. No one will judge them for making their whole life "me time." It is the way all of society is going.

TheReturnofLive

Quote from: james03 on November 18, 2020, 10:00:06 AM
At age 28-30 or so, male attention starts to fall off and they start realizing that a "career" is a job with a fun commute, even in cold rainy weather.  So they think they will just go down to the husband store and get a husband.  This period is termed "baby rabies" on the internet (understand 14 year old boys now know about this from the internet).  She discovers all the masculine secular men have discovered the sexual benefits of feminism (free prostitution) and do not want to get married, and all the masculine Christian men are happily married with 2 kids.  So the only thing available is a simping chump, oftentimes already divorced and paying child support..  Some will hold their nose and marry the chump, though a lot go unmarried and will be barren.  (And even ths pool of simping chumps is dwindling as even they discover the scam after reading about it on the internet).

It's also during this period that they go on anti-depressants and buy 2 cats or some other fur-baby.  Note that the marriage rate has hit an all-time low.

On the plus side this means that Trads and conservative Prots are making up a larger percentage of American births (non-American births likely make up the majority now unfortunately).

There is so much truth here. Amen.

So much young women don't understand that mainstream feminism is screwing them over.

A part of me wonders if the elites are so intelligent that they figured out this would be an effective way to curtail overpopulation.
"The task of the modern educator is not to cut down jungles but irrigate deserts." - C.S. Lewis

abc123

Quote from: coffeeandcigarette on November 18, 2020, 01:59:43 PM
Quote from: james03 on November 18, 2020, 10:00:06 AM
They aren't afraid.  They are brainwashed.  The brainwashing is this: " A woman's worth is measured by masculine standards".

It isn't even this though. They just want to lead their lives however they choose with no strings. Even if a woman had no desire to have a career and wanted to live out in the country on a cute little farm, she would probably want to do it with no kids. The thing about children is that they are a lot of trouble. The moment men invented a sure-fire way to get women unpregnant, they realized that they could have sexual freedom with no consequences. They pushed and pushed women to have abortions. The history of abortion did not begin with women begging to murder their children. It was men telling the women they seduced to kill the children so they could go on living like man-whores with no strings. Women fought against this initially. Now, women have also been convinced of the benefit of a responsibility-free life and they want it too. Men don't want to be fathers. Even the men who have children are rarely good fathers, and mothers are now getting in on the selfishness. Look how many young women are trying to adopt "cottage-core" lifestyles, or dress up and decorate their whole homes like the 1940's/"retro wives"/"time-warp wives"....all with no children; and no paid job. They want to act out classic 20th century female roles, but with no children to get in the way. It is becoming less and less about a career over children. That was simply a Masonic tool to get women to think "oh, well I will be a more valuable/validated member of society with a career, so I won't raise kids." Now, they don't need to validate their decision, they don't need to choose something that is seemingly more important than motherhood, like a career in nursing or teaching. Now they simply have to say they don't want to do it, stomp their foot, and go off into their fantasy dream life. No one will judge them for making their whole life "me time." It is the way all of society is going.

So men and masons are responsible for women's poor decisions?

Ive heard feminists blame men for all their problems but blaming masons is a new one.

Geremia

Quote from: abc123 on November 19, 2020, 09:59:56 AMSo men and masons are responsible for women's poor decisions?
Wasn't Adam (partially, at least) responsible for Eve's?

james03

QuoteA part of me wonders if the (((elites))) are so intelligent that they figured out this would be an effective way to curtail overpopulation destroy Christendom.
FIFY.  Cultural Marxism.  Look at the original leaders of the feminist movement.
"But he that doth not believe, is already judged: because he believeth not in the name of the only begotten Son of God (Jn 3:18)."

"All sorrow leads to the foot of the Cross.  Weep for your sins."

"Although He should kill me, I will trust in Him"

GiftOfGod

Quote from: TheReturnofLive on November 19, 2020, 08:13:49 AM
So much young women don't understand that mainstream feminism is screwing them over.

"Mainstream feminism"?


Quote from: james03 on November 19, 2020, 02:56:36 PM
QuoteA part of me wonders if the (((elites))) are so intelligent that they figured out this would be an effective way to curtail overpopulation destroy Christendom.
FIFY.  Cultural Marxism.  Look at the original leaders of the feminist movement.

IT'S DA JOOOOOOOS!!!!!
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If attending Mass, the ordinary form as celebrated everyday around the world be sinful, then the Church no longer exists. Period.
Rather, if the NOM were the lex credendi of the Church, then the Church would no longer exist. However, the true mass and the true sacraments still exist and will hold the candle of faith until Our Lord steps in to restore His Bride to her glory.
We could compare ourselves to the Catholics in England at the time of the Reformation. Was it sinful for them to attend Cranmer's service?
We have to remind ourselves that all the machinery of the "Church" continued in place. They had priests, bishops, churches, cathedrals. But all of them were using the new "Book of Common Prayer" instead of the Catholic Mass. Ordinary lay people could see with their own eyes an enormous entity that called itself the "Church," but did the true Church still exist in that situation? Meanwhile, in small hiding places in certain homes were a handful of true priests offering the true Mass at the risk of imprisonment, torture and death.


james03

The jewish Frankfurt school was not jewish?  They didn't originate with Bella Cohen in Hungary?

As far as the feminist movement, no one disputes it.  The jews brag about it and consider it an honor.  Google any jewish history site and educate yourself.

Just a good ole corn fed American girl (hat tip to the jewish cultural site for providing the photo):

"But he that doth not believe, is already judged: because he believeth not in the name of the only begotten Son of God (Jn 3:18)."

"All sorrow leads to the foot of the Cross.  Weep for your sins."

"Although He should kill me, I will trust in Him"

coffeeandcigarette

Quote from: abc123 on November 19, 2020, 09:59:56 AM
Quote from: coffeeandcigarette on November 18, 2020, 01:59:43 PM
Quote from: james03 on November 18, 2020, 10:00:06 AM
They aren't afraid.  They are brainwashed.  The brainwashing is this: " A woman's worth is measured by masculine standards".

It isn't even this though. They just want to lead their lives however they choose with no strings. Even if a woman had no desire to have a career and wanted to live out in the country on a cute little farm, she would probably want to do it with no kids. The thing about children is that they are a lot of trouble. The moment men invented a sure-fire way to get women unpregnant, they realized that they could have sexual freedom with no consequences. They pushed and pushed women to have abortions. The history of abortion did not begin with women begging to murder their children. It was men telling the women they seduced to kill the children so they could go on living like man-whores with no strings. Women fought against this initially. Now, women have also been convinced of the benefit of a responsibility-free life and they want it too. Men don't want to be fathers. Even the men who have children are rarely good fathers, and mothers are now getting in on the selfishness. Look how many young women are trying to adopt "cottage-core" lifestyles, or dress up and decorate their whole homes like the 1940's/"retro wives"/"time-warp wives"....all with no children; and no paid job. They want to act out classic 20th century female roles, but with no children to get in the way. It is becoming less and less about a career over children. That was simply a Masonic tool to get women to think "oh, well I will be a more valuable/validated member of society with a career, so I won't raise kids." Now, they don't need to validate their decision, they don't need to choose something that is seemingly more important than motherhood, like a career in nursing or teaching. Now they simply have to say they don't want to do it, stomp their foot, and go off into their fantasy dream life. No one will judge them for making their whole life "me time." It is the way all of society is going.

So men and masons are responsible for women's poor decisions?

Ive heard feminists blame men for all their problems but blaming masons is a new one.

I never said that. I said that men got the ball rolling, and have successfully convinced women that it is a great idea. Now women are flying the flag and voting on their own. Now, it is their own fault for perpetuating what men started.

Men started the entire idea of factory work, they wanted women and children to work the delicate machinery, they wanted women out of the home/family business and in the workforce. Men decided it would be a good idea to force women to work all the male jobs during WWII. Women making bombs, fixing cars, doing everything their fathers/brothers/sons had done. They even issued the pantsuit uniforms that would lure women to wear pants after war was over. In the beginning women needed convincing. Now they want jobs, want pants, etc.

Men were pushing for abortion, while strong female voices and early suffragettes openly opposed them. Now women want abortion for themselves.

My point is that what started out as something men wanted women to do, has now turned into something women are choosing for themselves. That is what happens when you try to convince people something is a good idea...you often succeed.

Abortion, contraception, women choosing work over family/children, immodesty. These are all masonic and Marxist tools which they themselves outlined as a sure-fire way to destroy Christian culture and families. TEn seconds of research on your part would have told you that.


GiftOfGod

Quote from: coffeeandcigarette on November 20, 2020, 11:56:41 PM
Quote from: abc123 on November 19, 2020, 09:59:56 AM
Quote from: coffeeandcigarette on November 18, 2020, 01:59:43 PM
Quote from: james03 on November 18, 2020, 10:00:06 AM
They aren't afraid.  They are brainwashed.  The brainwashing is this: " A woman's worth is measured by masculine standards".

It isn't even this though. They just want to lead their lives however they choose with no strings. Even if a woman had no desire to have a career and wanted to live out in the country on a cute little farm, she would probably want to do it with no kids. The thing about children is that they are a lot of trouble. The moment men invented a sure-fire way to get women unpregnant, they realized that they could have sexual freedom with no consequences. They pushed and pushed women to have abortions. The history of abortion did not begin with women begging to murder their children. It was men telling the women they seduced to kill the children so they could go on living like man-whores with no strings. Women fought against this initially. Now, women have also been convinced of the benefit of a responsibility-free life and they want it too. Men don't want to be fathers. Even the men who have children are rarely good fathers, and mothers are now getting in on the selfishness. Look how many young women are trying to adopt "cottage-core" lifestyles, or dress up and decorate their whole homes like the 1940's/"retro wives"/"time-warp wives"....all with no children; and no paid job. They want to act out classic 20th century female roles, but with no children to get in the way. It is becoming less and less about a career over children. That was simply a Masonic tool to get women to think "oh, well I will be a more valuable/validated member of society with a career, so I won't raise kids." Now, they don't need to validate their decision, they don't need to choose something that is seemingly more important than motherhood, like a career in nursing or teaching. Now they simply have to say they don't want to do it, stomp their foot, and go off into their fantasy dream life. No one will judge them for making their whole life "me time." It is the way all of society is going.

So men and masons are responsible for women's poor decisions?

Ive heard feminists blame men for all their problems but blaming masons is a new one.

I never said that. I said that men got the ball rolling, and have successfully convinced women that it is a great idea. Now women are flying the flag and voting on their own. Now, it is their own fault for perpetuating what men started.

Men started the entire idea of factory work, they wanted women and children to work the delicate machinery, they wanted women out of the home/family business and in the workforce. Men decided it would be a good idea to force women to work all the male jobs during WWII. Women making bombs, fixing cars, doing everything their fathers/brothers/sons had done. They even issued the pantsuit uniforms that would lure women to wear pants after war was over. In the beginning women needed convincing. Now they want jobs, want pants, etc.

Men were pushing for abortion, while strong female voices and early suffragettes openly opposed them. Now women want abortion for themselves.

My point is that what started out as something men wanted women to do, has now turned into something women are choosing for themselves. That is what happens when you try to convince people something is a good idea...you often succeed.

Abortion, contraception, women choosing work over family/children, immodesty. These are all masonic and Marxist tools which they themselves outlined as a sure-fire way to destroy Christian culture and families. TEn seconds of research on your part would have told you that.

If you think that the capitalists of the Industrial Revolution (a tiny minority) are the same as "men", then you are mistaken. And almost everything bad in the modern world comes from giving women rights, especially the right to vote. Yes, men gave them that but only after women convinced men. Just like Adam and Eve.
Quote from: Maximilian on December 30, 2021, 11:15:48 AM
Quote from: Goldfinch on December 30, 2021, 10:36:10 AM
Quote from: Innocent Smith on December 30, 2021, 10:25:55 AM
If attending Mass, the ordinary form as celebrated everyday around the world be sinful, then the Church no longer exists. Period.
Rather, if the NOM were the lex credendi of the Church, then the Church would no longer exist. However, the true mass and the true sacraments still exist and will hold the candle of faith until Our Lord steps in to restore His Bride to her glory.
We could compare ourselves to the Catholics in England at the time of the Reformation. Was it sinful for them to attend Cranmer's service?
We have to remind ourselves that all the machinery of the "Church" continued in place. They had priests, bishops, churches, cathedrals. But all of them were using the new "Book of Common Prayer" instead of the Catholic Mass. Ordinary lay people could see with their own eyes an enormous entity that called itself the "Church," but did the true Church still exist in that situation? Meanwhile, in small hiding places in certain homes were a handful of true priests offering the true Mass at the risk of imprisonment, torture and death.