What versions of Catholic Bibles should I avoid ?

Started by Acolyte, July 31, 2024, 05:55:00 PM

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Acolyte

I have a DR but the print is a tad small.

What versions should I avoid and which ones would you recommend ?

"From the moment we awake in the morning, let us pray continually in the words of holy David: Turn away my eyes, that they may not behold vanity"
St Alphonsus

"I will set my face against you, and you shall fall down before your enemies, and shall be made subject to them that hate you, you shall flee when no man pursueth you"
Leviticus 26:17

"Behold, O God our protector : and look upon the face of Thy Christ" (Ps. 79:20) Here is devotion to the face of Jesus Christ as prophesized by David."
Fr. Lawrence Daniel Carney III

Bernadette

I have a Douay Rheims large print from Baronius. TAN also has a large print edition, but I haven't seen it.
My Lord and my God.

Acolyte

Is the Didache Bible ok ?

I just remembered I have one someone gave me a few years ago.
Also there is a NRSV in the storage box with it.
"From the moment we awake in the morning, let us pray continually in the words of holy David: Turn away my eyes, that they may not behold vanity"
St Alphonsus

"I will set my face against you, and you shall fall down before your enemies, and shall be made subject to them that hate you, you shall flee when no man pursueth you"
Leviticus 26:17

"Behold, O God our protector : and look upon the face of Thy Christ" (Ps. 79:20) Here is devotion to the face of Jesus Christ as prophesized by David."
Fr. Lawrence Daniel Carney III

KreKre

#3
Quote from: Acolyte on July 31, 2024, 06:29:34 PMIs the Didache Bible ok ?

I just remembered I have one someone gave me a few years ago.
Also there is a NRSV in the storage box with it.
I would be wary of both Didache Bible and NRSV, as they are both based on RSV, which is a Protestant translation, some versions of which were adapted for the use in the Catholic Church during or after Vatican II.

For the English language, I'd stick to Douay-Rheims, you can't go wrong with it, it's a beautiful translation of the Vulgate.
Christus vincit! Christus regnat! Christus imperat!

Melkite

For those who prefer the D-R, what are your thoughts on the Knox Bible in comparison to D-R?

Bernadette

Quote from: Melkite on August 01, 2024, 07:37:51 AMFor those who prefer the D-R, what are your thoughts on the Knox Bible in comparison to D-R?
I have both. I find myself reaching for the D-R more often because it's what I'm used to.
My Lord and my God.

Acolyte

Quote from: Melkite on August 01, 2024, 07:37:51 AMFor those who prefer the D-R, what are your thoughts on the Knox Bible in comparison to D-R?

Not familiar with it but thank you for mentioning it. I found this review on it. It's just one person's thoughts on it of course but I found it interesting.

http://catholicbibles.blogspot.com/2012/10/guest-blog-overview-of-knox-bible.html?m=1

"From the moment we awake in the morning, let us pray continually in the words of holy David: Turn away my eyes, that they may not behold vanity"
St Alphonsus

"I will set my face against you, and you shall fall down before your enemies, and shall be made subject to them that hate you, you shall flee when no man pursueth you"
Leviticus 26:17

"Behold, O God our protector : and look upon the face of Thy Christ" (Ps. 79:20) Here is devotion to the face of Jesus Christ as prophesized by David."
Fr. Lawrence Daniel Carney III

Stubborn

Even after a long life of sin, if the Christian receives the Sacrament of the dying with the appropriate dispositions, he will go straight to heaven without having to go to purgatory. - Fr. M. Philipon; This sacrament prepares man for glory immediately, since it is given to those who are departing from this life. - St. Thomas Aquinas; It washes away the sins that remain to be atoned, and the vestiges of sin; it comforts and strengthens the soul of the sick person, arousing in him a great trust and confidence in the divine mercy. Thus strengthened, he bears the hardships and struggles of his illness more easily and resists the temptation of the devil and the heel of the deceiver more readily; and if it be advantageous to the welfare of his soul, he sometimes regains his bodily health. - Council of Trent

drummerboy

There is the Jerusalem Bible.  Unsure of its orthodoxy but Tolkien translated Tobias.  It's not a direct English translation however, it's French to English
"My hope is the Father, my refuge is the Son, my protection is the Holy Spirit.  Holy Trinity, glory to You." 
"All my hope I place in you, O Mother of God; keep me under your protection."

KreKre

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Quote from: Melkite on August 01, 2024, 07:37:51 AMFor those who prefer the D-R, what are your thoughts on the Knox Bible in comparison to D-R?
I have no experience with the Knox Bible, but I would say it's only as good as it conforms to the D-R, so one may as well use the D-R.

I don't understand why one would need to reinvent the wheel, the D-R is perfectly fine.

Personally, I only use the D-R when I want to quote something in English. I never read it myself, because English is not my native language (I usually read the New Testament translation by Franjo Zagoda, which follows the Vulgate fairly closely, and the Old Testament translation by Ivan Evanđelist Šarić, which does not perfectly conform to the Vulgate, but it's the best I know of, and it's very poetic and lovely). Ultimately, I'm trying to get my Latin to the level I can comfortably read the Vulgate; for the moment, that takes a bit of effort, but I think it's a worthwhile endeavor.
Christus vincit! Christus regnat! Christus imperat!

Innocent Smith

Quote from: Acolyte on July 31, 2024, 05:55:00 PMI have a DR but the print is a tad small.

What versions should I avoid and which ones would you recommend ?



I like old Bibles.  I'm not talking antique or anything.  But finely made and bound leather editions from publishers such as Benziger Brothers.  If I can find one in Moroccan Leather, all the better.

So we are talking late '30s through early '50s.

You might want to check out the Confraternity Text editions from Benziger Brothers.  It's just a little different than the Haydock Rheims and being able to reference it helped me to understand some of the stickier passages in the Rheims NT. Although sometimes the Confraternity text was stickier.  But it worked for me.

The OT was the Haydock Douay.  Pretty sure the Psalms were same, but there may be some editions with the reworked Psalter that started appearing in the late '40s and early '50s.  Their goal was to get everything literally correct according to the Hebrew. 

These Bibles also feature nice engravings printed throughout. 

I also love my Baronius NT and Psalter.  But that wouldn't make the grade if you don't like small print.  It's tiny.  But, very portable.
I am going to hold a pistol to the head of the modern man. But I shall not use it to kill him, only to bring him to life.

Kaesekopf

I use the DR, even though it takes more 'effort' to read it, because that aligns with what my missal uses.  This way I can relate the Scriptures to the propers more easily. 

If I could, I'd probably just use the RSV-CE2.  I haven't found any issues with it, not that I'm a scholar or anything on it.  But it seems at least "good enough."
Wie dein Sonntag, so dein Sterbetag.

I am not altogether on anybody's side, because nobody is altogether on my side.  ~Treebeard, LOTR

Jesus son of David, have mercy on me.

OzarkCatholic

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Quote from: Kaesekopf on August 02, 2024, 08:32:15 AMI use the DR, even though it takes more 'effort' to read it, because that aligns with what my missal uses.  This way I can relate the Scriptures to the propers more easily. 

If I could, I'd probably just use the RSV-CE2.  I haven't found any issues with it, not that I'm a scholar or anything on it.  But it seems at least "good enough."

Same. I frequent my DR, but when my son made his first communion (age 8 ), we got him the Ascension Press RSV-CE2. The supplemental materials, full-color pages, and commentary compliment the text well. He already has a full hand-missal which has scriptures from the DR, so for now as a full on Bible, this works for him.

We have a family-size Haydock bible as well that he can reference which also uses the DR, so again—no concerns.
Feels like Groundhog Day again.

MariaDuce

Quote from: Innocent Smith on August 01, 2024, 10:07:22 PMYou might want to check out the Confraternity Text editions from Benziger Brothers.

Another vote for the Confraternity edition.  I have gone through a few of the Scepter vinyl-covered pocket NTs.
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