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General Catholic Discussion / Re: Vatican on the verge of ba...
Last post by Boniface3 - Today at 01:43:51 AMQuote from: Antonius on December 04, 2024, 02:21:03 PMSame here, my archbishop said that in 4 years he wanted to have 10 churches left of the current 280 in the archdiocese.Quote from: KreKre on December 04, 2024, 01:28:49 PMSoon they will start selling off Catholic treasures. Imagine Michelangelo's Pieta in a private collection, suffering who knows what kind of desecrations...In the Diocese that I live in. The Bishop has already had one round of Church closures with building/land sold off.
How many Churches have already been sold in Europe? Many are now nightclubs and dens of sin.
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General Catholic Discussion / Re: Vatican on the verge of ba...
Last post by Boniface3 - Today at 01:41:09 AMItalians are amazing at wasting money... i thought i read a news article about the various Vatican departments having way more money then originally thought just some days ago.
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Ask a Traditionalist / Re: Any Traditionalists here r...
Last post by Greg - Today at 12:09:35 AMYou don't recognise any of those Trads? I am surprised if someone does not. Show it around a little.
I recently visited the burial place of Napoleon III the emperor who was Exile from France and died reconciled to the Catholic Church. His wife was a Spanish princess Eugenie who was extremely rich due fo inheritance. Originally he was buried in Chislehurst Kent where I go to Mass but after his death and his son's death (Zulu wars), his wife who lived until the 1920s had them brought to Farnborough in Surrey. And there she built a larger church, which I visited very recently called Saint Michael's Abbey.
It was my wife's birthday so we spent a night at a hotel in Farnborough and saw the Abbey after we turned up and invited, it was actually closed, rang the bell and said that we came from Chislehurst.
The monk invited us in and gave us a private tour of the chapel and explained the history of the place and took us down to the crypt where three granite sarcophaguses lay. The young prince on the left, Emperor Napoleon III on the right and the empress over the altar. I made a decent donation as it really was a VIP tour. In talking to him but explaining who I was an about our family background and why we were Trads, turns out that he had heard of our family and in particular one of Clau Clau's daughters.
At well over 100 people we have a mini dynastic empire underway.
I recently visited the burial place of Napoleon III the emperor who was Exile from France and died reconciled to the Catholic Church. His wife was a Spanish princess Eugenie who was extremely rich due fo inheritance. Originally he was buried in Chislehurst Kent where I go to Mass but after his death and his son's death (Zulu wars), his wife who lived until the 1920s had them brought to Farnborough in Surrey. And there she built a larger church, which I visited very recently called Saint Michael's Abbey.
It was my wife's birthday so we spent a night at a hotel in Farnborough and saw the Abbey after we turned up and invited, it was actually closed, rang the bell and said that we came from Chislehurst.
The monk invited us in and gave us a private tour of the chapel and explained the history of the place and took us down to the crypt where three granite sarcophaguses lay. The young prince on the left, Emperor Napoleon III on the right and the empress over the altar. I made a decent donation as it really was a VIP tour. In talking to him but explaining who I was an about our family background and why we were Trads, turns out that he had heard of our family and in particular one of Clau Clau's daughters.
At well over 100 people we have a mini dynastic empire underway.
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General Catholic Discussion / Re: Vatican on the verge of ba...
Last post by Greg - December 04, 2024, 11:52:28 PMQuote from: KreKre on December 04, 2024, 01:28:49 PMSoon they will start selling off Catholic treasures. Imagine Michelangelo's Pieta in a private collection, suffering who knows what kind of desecrations...
How many Churches have already been sold in Europe? Many are now nightclubs and dens of sin.
Given that the Roman clergy are sodomising each otherin church property during cocaine fuelled orgies, and on altars, as well as having satanic black masses in churches, how much worse can it get?
I don't suppose having witnessed that that a piece of artwork is going to be scandalized by George Michael's 'Careless Whisper' and some high hemlines.
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Ask a Traditionalist / Re: Any Traditionalists here r...
Last post by clau clau - December 04, 2024, 10:31:19 PMNo, I wasn't there. I'm still trying to figure out where it is. A rough guess would be Essex/Hertfordshire border somewhere near Bishop Stortford.
I agree though it was beautiful; one of the three transcendentals.
I agree though it was beautiful; one of the three transcendentals.
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The Sacred Sciences / Is Banezianism Occassionalism?
Last post by james03 - December 04, 2024, 10:04:26 PMI have a problem with Banezianism because it ends up with Luther's dung pile covered with snow. It is a contradiction against St. Thomas:
We've gone over this many times. I am now aware that there is a savor of Occassinalism about it. If you put an ice cube in the sun, it will melt. The occasionalist will hold that it only appears that the sun melts the ice, but actually it is God melting the ice, because God is the cause of everything.
The error is in not distinguishing between First Cause and Efficient cause. St. Thomas made that distinction, a firm proponent that God is the First Cause of everything, and yet he says man is the cause of his moving and judging. Here St. Thomas is talking about the efficient cause.
Quote from: St. ThomasThus he is his own cause not only in moving but also in judging. He is therefore endowed with free choice—that is to say, with a free judgment about acting or not acting.
We've gone over this many times. I am now aware that there is a savor of Occassinalism about it. If you put an ice cube in the sun, it will melt. The occasionalist will hold that it only appears that the sun melts the ice, but actually it is God melting the ice, because God is the cause of everything.
The error is in not distinguishing between First Cause and Efficient cause. St. Thomas made that distinction, a firm proponent that God is the First Cause of everything, and yet he says man is the cause of his moving and judging. Here St. Thomas is talking about the efficient cause.
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Ask a Traditionalist / Re: Dark Elements==>Internet
Last post by The Curt Jester - December 04, 2024, 06:00:56 PMQuote from: TradGranny on December 04, 2024, 05:06:05 PMMay I ask which adblocker you use for YouTube? THanks.
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Ask a Traditionalist / Re: Any Traditionalists here r...
Last post by Michael Wilson - December 04, 2024, 05:57:24 PMO.K. You would have us believe that just a group of ordinary Churchgoing trads got together and sang like that???
That was beautiful!
That was beautiful!
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Last post by Heinrich - December 04, 2024, 05:31:05 PM
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Ask a Traditionalist / Re: Sponsor Impediment for Mar...
Last post by St. Drogo - December 04, 2024, 05:22:55 PMQuote from: EastWest7 on December 04, 2024, 12:18:42 PMWhen I was preparing to be chrismated in the Orthodox Church I was told that I should make sure that there was no possibility that I might one day hope to marry any female sponsor I might have. That Church canons prevent such a marriage.Strange, as it's uncanonical for an adult convert both to have more than one godparent and to have a godparent of the opposite sex (economically, a sponsor of one received into the Church through chrismation is a godparent).
Edit: Perhaps you meant that you were told to ensure you wouldn't pursue marriage with a sister or daughter of your sponsor.