Trump is garbage, Q is masonic, and we've all been duped.

Started by LausTibiChriste, May 16, 2020, 12:51:29 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

Vetus Ordo

Quote from: LausTibiChriste on May 20, 2020, 01:16:24 AM
Quote from: Vetus Ordo on May 18, 2020, 06:48:32 PM
Quote from: LausTibiChriste on May 16, 2020, 12:51:29 AMI am ashamed and publically regret my support for Trump and hope more Catholics will follow suit. I'm not American, but as America goes, so goes the world.

So you're not American and you can't vote in the US elections.

Why would your "support" for Trump, or lack thereof, be meaningful?

Why would anyones? As I said, as America goes, so goes the world.

Stupid question.

You are the one who announced publicly that you regret your "support" for Trump.

But your support is meaningless, you don't vote.
DISPOSE OUR DAYS IN THY PEACE, AND COMMAND US TO BE DELIVERED FROM ETERNAL DAMNATION, AND TO BE NUMBERED IN THE FLOCK OF THINE ELECT.

Prayerful

Q is garbage, just rubbish. It's Trump or Biden (of course there are always others, but votes for them will effectively give victory to either Trump or Biden. Trump is desperately flawed, even with the good things he has done, but if the child hair sniffer became President, it would only be a matter of time before he's lost to senility. And then think of whichever example female POC wokeness will be US President.
Padre Pio: Pray, hope, and don't worry. Worry is useless. God is merciful and will hear your prayer.

Michael Wilson

Here is the Planned Parenthood site, where they outline all the harm that Trump has done to their organization:
https://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/tracking-trump/policy/planned-parenthood
"The World Must Conform to Our Lord and not He to it." Rev. Dennis Fahey CSSP

"My brothers, all of you, if you are condemned to see the triumph of evil, never applaud it. Never say to evil: you are good; to decadence: you are progess; to death: you are life. Sanctify yourselves in the times wherein God has placed you; bewail the evils and the disorders which God tolerates; oppose them with the energy of your works and your efforts, your life uncontaminated by error, free from being led astray, in such a way that having lived here below, united with the Spirit of the Lord, you will be admitted to be made but one with Him forever and ever: But he who is joined to the Lord is one in spirit." Cardinal Pie of Potiers

james03

Pizzagate:  Completely legit.  But it depends on what you mean by it.  There were actually 3 incidents:

1.  A white hat hacker got into the comet pingpong pizza server and found child porn.  He reported it to the police.  I posted the Youtube video of his story, which included the emails he sent to the cops and their replies.  We even know the names of the cops.  Cops suddenly drop the case.  Later the head of DC metro gets a million dollar job as head of security for the NFL.  For the press, this is easily verified.  Just contact the cops.  Press won't touch it.  The theory is that this was a CIA or FBI honey trap used to black mail foreigners.  That part is theory, but the child porn on the server is backed by evidence.

2.  Child porn lingo in the Wikileaks emails.  One is for a pool party where kids are being brought over for entertainment.  $50,000 spent on "hot dogs" at a party.  "Hot dog" is an underage male.  The really sick child porn "art" Tony Podesta has, including a demon sculpture of a demon about to molest a kid and a sculpture of one of Dalmer's mutilated victims.  Legit.

3.  Underground sex dungeons at comet pizza.  Totally false.  Used to divert from the story about the child porn server.  When you try to point out that comet pizza was into child porn, the automatic assumption is that you think there are secret underground dungeons at Comet Pizza.  Note this is all the press reported.  No story on the child porn.

On Trump, he nominated Gorsich and Kavanaugh.  That's all I care about.  I also support him on tariffs and getting rid of NAFTA and TPP.  Planned Parenthood is troubling.  Given his track record on judges, I want him to be President when Ginsberg finally croaks.

QuoteThe lie the Republican Party has been dangling in front of its base for almost 50 years is "keep voting Republican and we'll eventually overturn Roe v Wade."
Trump had two shots and he did a good job.  He's using the heavily Catholic Federalist Society to pick judges.  If Ginsburg croaks we have a shot at overturning abortion with Trump.

On Q, I used to follow him, but noticed his job was to delay.  "Trust Sessions".  The conservative news site theconservativetreehouse pointed out the problem with Q a year ago.  I think Q was also backing Mueller at one point.  I think Q's job is to keep the conservatives from revolting.

Q had nothing to do with Pizzagate.  I believe the chicks name is Liz Cronkin or something like that. 
"But he that doth not believe, is already judged: because he believeth not in the name of the only begotten Son of God (Jn 3:18)."

"All sorrow leads to the foot of the Cross.  Weep for your sins."

"Although He should kill me, I will trust in Him"

james03

QuoteWe're Catholics, no? The ends do not justify the means...as such, voting for him (objectively evil) in the hopes we can turn the tide with a greater good (ie. prolife justices [who aren't even pro life really]) are engaging in moral relativism, by justifying the means for a speculative good that really has no hope of coming to fruition.
I was a Trump supporter and still am.  However if you listened to my podcasts I had a repeating "black pill" message that it's over.  Demographics and debt bomb.  Besides that, the only way we "turn the tide" is with a Pope, which we don't have.  I never had much hope for Trump.

At this point you minimize the damage.  If Hillary had won, we'd have a 6-2 SCOTUS with blackmailed Roberts in the middle.  Comey, McCabe, Rosestein, Weissman, etc... would still be in power.  250 judges would have been picked by Hillary.  There'd be a $100/box ammo tax.  Hillary would probably have started WWIII.  We'd have TPP.

And in 2020 if Michelle gets elected, same deal.  First day she'll legalize 12 million illegals and register them to vote.  Then she'll open the border.  Then she'll go to China and perform sex acts on Xi, right before signing a new TPP.  So yeah, I'm rooting for a Trump win.

In the end, probably 2024, the Dems come to power.  That's just demographics.  And besides that, we'll be at $30 TRILLION in debt by 2021.  But I'm for delaying the complete collapse as long as we can.  It allows us to prepare.  The COVID hoax was probably a good thing because it definitely woke some people up.
"But he that doth not believe, is already judged: because he believeth not in the name of the only begotten Son of God (Jn 3:18)."

"All sorrow leads to the foot of the Cross.  Weep for your sins."

"Although He should kill me, I will trust in Him"

Xavier

I'm not a betting man, but if I were, I'd be willing to bet good money that, if Trump is re-elected, Roe v Wade will be overturned by 2024. Anyone want to claim otherwise? Btw, nobody is saying, changing the law alone is sufficient. Hearts too must change and for that prayer and work in converting people to pro-life Truth is necessary; but the law is also necessary to change, as human law must always reflect divine Law and God's moral Truth.

Trump has appointed 200 judges and 2 Supreme Court Justices in 4 years. If he's given 4 years more, he will appoint 400 judges and likely 4 Supreme Court Justices. Both Ginsburg and Breyer are very old, and likely to be replaced by pro-life Catholics like Barrett and Pryor. It's game over for the liberals at that point. Trump said he would overturn RvW through Judges, and he is keeping that promise.

It's Congress that has to defund Planned Parenthood. But the dems have majority in the house, and the repubs don't have the 60 votes they need in the Senate to overcome a filibuster. So that's why PP can't be defunded like that yet.

Trump and Pence already tried in two ways to defund Planned Parenthood. The title X thing, and also by trying to give States the right to defund Planned Parenthood, which got held up in the Courts. Which brings us back to Judges.

About 15-20 states at least are ready to ban or severely restrict abortion in their states once RvW is overturned: "And in the conservative war against reproductive rights, each new law comes closer to unraveling Roe v. Wade: In recent months, state legislatures have passed so-called "heartbeat bills," which bar abortion once a fetal heartbeat becomes detectable; bans on abortion based on the anticipated race, sex or disability of the fetus; and various regulations on clinics that make it near impossible for them to operate. Some state lawmakers are looking beyond just restricting abortion in their communities and are passing laws in anticipation of an eventual Supreme Court repeal of Roe's brittle constitutional framework." https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-s-title-x-rule-defunding-planned-parenthood-yet-another-ncna1045471

Since the US is not a Monarchy, in order to have a federal bill outlawing abortion at the national level, you also need House Majorities and Senate super-majorities of over 60 seats. Long term, that should be the aim. But overturning RvW through judges is a good start.

Edit: remember that these are pro-life, conservative, YOUNG Judges. They will shape America's judicial future for decades. 4 more years will be a very great victory for pro-lifers.
Bible verses on walking blamelessly with God, after being forgiven from our former sins. Some verses here: https://dailyverses.net/blameless

"[2] He that walketh without blemish, and worketh justice:[3] He that speaketh truth in his heart, who hath not used deceit in his tongue: Nor hath done evil to his neighbour: nor taken up a reproach against his neighbours.(Psalm 14)

"[2] For in many things we all offend. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man."(James 3)

"[14] And do ye all things without murmurings and hesitations; [15] That you may be blameless, and sincere children of God, without reproof, in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation; among whom you shine as lights in the world." (Phil 2:14-15)

Xavier

This below article further underlines that the fight against abortion is an international fight that affects all nations. The UN pushes for it, President Trump pushes back against it.

"Over the course of the coronavirus crisis, we have seen governments, organizations, and international bodies, such as the United Nations and its various agencies, exploit the vulnerable in order to further a dangerous agenda. One that targets innocent children in the womb.

One international UN body that has been under the spotlight during this crisis is the World Health Organization. The WHO took the position of declaring abortion, a procedure that the American College of Pediatricians classified as "non-essential," to be that of "essential."

But this week, the US Agency for International Development sent a letter to the UN Secretary General in response to the United Nations Global Humanitarian Response Plan for the coronavirus crisis calling for the UN to cease treating abortion as "essential" humanitarian relief. This was an unprecedented letter, cristicizing the blatant and destructive promotion of abortion by the UN bureaucracy.

I say, all the more power to USAID in their standing up for the vulnerable and in keeping with their mandate to administer the US federal government's foreign civilian aid programs, which include disaster relief, technical assistance, poverty alleviation, and economic development, none of which involve abortion, a practice which intentionally kills innocent children in the womb. Promoting abortion overseas with the use of taxpayers dollars is seen by many as neo-colonialism and no government should ever be involved in such a Draconian measure, especially those that label themselves from that of a "developed" country.

John Barsa, acting Administrator of the USAID, sent UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres a letter where he called out the Secretary for "cynically placing the provision of 'sexual and reproductive health services' on the same level of importance as food-insecurity, essential health care, malnutrition, shelter, and sanitation."

In the letter, Barsa asked Guterres to remove references to "sexual and reproductive health" from the United Nation's COVID-19 policies and to "drop the provision of abortion as an essential component of the UN's priorities to respond to the COVID-19 pandemic." Barsa took this letter to a whole other level in exposing the term "sexual and reproductive health" as it is not only ambiguous but controversial.

Why is it so important that Barsa exposed this terminology? Because, UN agencies have gotten away with this loose language for far too long and have been able to interpret it in any way they deem appropriate to fit their pro-abortion agenda. Barsa called for UN agencies to be guided by "clear language and take clear action to address the real needs of vulnerable people around the world without promoting abortion."

Barsa said the United Nations should focus on "life-saving interventions" and the "most urgent, concrete needs" as well as providing "essential healthcare" and addressing "food shortages." "To achieve global unity toward this goal, it is essential that the UN's response to the pandemic avoid creating controversy," Barsa stated. "The UN should not use this crisis as an opportunity to advance access to abortion as an essential service," said Barsa in his rebuke of Secretary Guterres for promoting "the widespread distribution of abortion-inducing drugs and abortion supplies, and for the promotion of abortion in local country settings."

Barsa called out what very few understand about the UN, and that is how often they use their agencies who work in conjunction with NGO's on the ground, to directly circumvent a nation's sovereignty, saying, "To use the COVID-19 pandemic as a justification to pressure governments to change their laws is an effort to the autonomy of each society to determine its own national policies on health care," Barsa continued, "The UN should not intimidate or coerce Member States that are committed to the right to life."

Sharon Slater, the President of Family Watch International stated, "We are thrilled that USAID under the Trump administration has called out the United Nations for using the COVID-19 crisis to advance abortion. We hope this is just the beginning of US advocacy on this front. We would urge USAID to conduct a system-wide audit of all UN agencies and entities to uncover the ample evidence of abortion advocacy contrary to international law, which calls for respect for human life (Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 3). We would further urge the Trump administration to make all UN funding conditional upon the adherence to protection of life policies. We also applaud the administration for consistently calling for the respect for the sovereign rights of nations to determine their own national policies." https://thepostmillennial.com/the-un-pushes-for-abortion-the-us-pushes-back
Bible verses on walking blamelessly with God, after being forgiven from our former sins. Some verses here: https://dailyverses.net/blameless

"[2] He that walketh without blemish, and worketh justice:[3] He that speaketh truth in his heart, who hath not used deceit in his tongue: Nor hath done evil to his neighbour: nor taken up a reproach against his neighbours.(Psalm 14)

"[2] For in many things we all offend. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man."(James 3)

"[14] And do ye all things without murmurings and hesitations; [15] That you may be blameless, and sincere children of God, without reproof, in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation; among whom you shine as lights in the world." (Phil 2:14-15)

Kathleen

Quote from: james03 on May 22, 2020, 11:40:16 PM
At this point you minimize the damage. 

Rock solid summaries.

But that point is the take home.

This road only goes one place. The only variable is how fast.

martin88nyc

"These things I have spoken to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you shall have distress: but have confidence, I have overcome the world." John 16:33

james03

Tempting.  Accelerate the collapse before the Left gets absolute power.  If the Left reaches North Korea style control, it's over for a very long time.

I still think using the time to prepare (move to flyover country) is still the best course of action.

In the UK, it might be a different story.  It's basically a certainty due to demographics that granddaughters of people like Greg will be forced to wear a Burka BY LAW.
"But he that doth not believe, is already judged: because he believeth not in the name of the only begotten Son of God (Jn 3:18)."

"All sorrow leads to the foot of the Cross.  Weep for your sins."

"Although He should kill me, I will trust in Him"

LausTibiChriste

Q is a cult.

I'll agree with James on one thing (I agree with him on many things, for the record - young men go buy his book it'll kill about 10 years of having to learn it on the streets from scratch) - the Dems will win in 2024.

But Trump is a Democrat already. The Dems WANT him to win. He has done EVERYTHING they asked for. NOTHING he campaigned for has gone through. Everyone, particularly Catholics, are holding on to a wing and a prayer and HOPE he's lining them up but he's had 3 years and done sweet f*** all.

The prolife justices aren't prolife at all, and Trumps just part of the cabal. And he knows it. He says one thing and does another. If you think Bidens worse, you're wrong. Everything Biden would do, Trump has done or will do all the while placating his supporters so it goes through without so much as a wimper. If Biden did it, pundits might speak up (would still go through) but if Trump does it somehow his brainless cult just goes #MAGA!!

Controlled opposition, that's all he is.

Quote from: Michael Wilson on May 22, 2020, 03:29:43 PM
Here is the Planned Parenthood site, where they outline all the harm that Trump has done to their organization:
https://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/tracking-trump/policy/planned-parenthood

This is EXACTLY my point. Planned Parenthood will whine and moan pretending they're being persecuted, while all conservatives and Catholics will sit there and go "see! Ain't Trump great?!" meanwhile, they [PP] got a $100 million INCREASE in funding.

Are we actually against PP? If so, ACTUAL federal funding speaks a hell of a lot more than words and PP pretending to whine about how hard they have it.

And don't try telling me that Trump's hands are tied and he can't really do anything about it. That is pure horseshit.

They know we're backed into a corner and so desperate for a ray of hope they'll send him to go speak at the March for Life so we all get a hard-on and pretend everything's hunky-dory.

(And don't even get me started on Israel, the arch-enemy of the Church but best friend of Trump's coffers.)

It's the same in the Church - 30 years ago most Trads would've seen Benedict as a raving heretic, now he's the only hope we have left since things are so bad.

Also, for far more intellectually robust, less sweary and in-depth analysis about this all, I highly recommend these two twitter accounts:

https://twitter.com/JonahofNinevah (Catholic)

https://twitter.com/TheMarkPantano

Lord Jesus Christ, Son Of God, Have Mercy On Me A Sinner

"Nobody is under any moral obligation of duty or loyalty to a state run by sexual perverts who are trying to destroy public morals."
- MaximGun

"Not trusting your government doesn't make you a conspiracy theorist, it means you're a history buff"

Communism is as American as Apple Pie

mikemac

This video was the second post on the JonahofNinevah twitter feed.

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Awx3hEd72J8[/yt]

Changing the US Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem basically just opened the door to have the son of perdition sit in the temple, as far as I'm concerned.  But that is basically what Evangelicals want.

Netflix just released a documentary series called 'Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich'.  I'll have to watch it to see if it implicates Trump.  I wouldn't be surprised if it does.  If there is anything at all to Pizzagate this could be why it has not been investigated.
Like John Vennari (RIP) said "Why not just do it?  What would it hurt?"
Consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary (PETITION)
https://lifepetitions.com/petition/consecrate-russia-to-the-immaculate-heart-of-mary-petition

"We would be mistaken to think that Fatima's prophetic mission is complete." Benedict XVI May 13, 2010

"Tell people that God gives graces through the Immaculate Heart of Mary.  Tell them also to pray to the Immaculate Heart of Mary for peace, since God has entrusted it to Her." Saint Jacinta Marto

The real nature of hope is "despair, overcome."
Source

mikemac

Quote from: mikemac on May 28, 2020, 11:36:35 AM
Netflix just released a documentary series called 'Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich'.  I'll have to watch it to see if it implicates Trump.  I wouldn't be surprised if it does.  If there is anything at all to Pizzagate this could be why it has not been investigated.

Other than showing that Trump and Epstein were good friends for a while and that Trump said "I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. ..." the four part Netflix documentary series did not implicate Trump.

It's kind of strange that Trump nominated Alexander Acosta to be Labor Secretary though considering in "2007–2008, as U.S. attorney, Acosta approved a plea deal that allowed human-trafficking ring-leader Jeffrey Epstein to plead guilty to a single state charge of solicitation in exchange for a federal non-prosecution agreement."

How Exactly Is Alleged Sex Trafficker Jeffrey Epstein Connected to President Trump?
https://www.elle.com/culture/career-politics/a28320376/jeffrey-epstein-president-trump-connection/

The Wikipedia for Jeffrey Epstein says the following.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein
QuoteJane Doe v. Epstein and Trump (2016)

A federal lawsuit filed in California in April 2016, against Epstein and Donald Trump by a California woman alleged that the two men sexually assaulted her at a series of parties at Epstein's Manhattan residence in 1994, when she was 13 years old. The suit was dismissed by a federal judge in May 2016 because it did not raise valid claims under federal law. The woman filed another federal suit in New York in June 2016, but it was withdrawn three months later, apparently without being served on the defendants. A third federal suit was filed in New York in September 2016.

The two latter suits included affidavits by an anonymous witness who attested to the accusations in the suits, asserting Epstein employed her to procure underage girls for him, and an anonymous person who declared the plaintiff had told him/her about the assaults at the time they occurred. The plaintiff, who had filed anonymously as Jane Doe, was scheduled to appear in a Los Angeles press conference six days before the 2016 election, but abruptly canceled the event; her lawyer Lisa Bloom asserted that the woman had received threats. The suit was dropped on November 4, 2016. Trump attorney Alan Garten flatly denied the allegations, while Epstein declined to comment.
Like John Vennari (RIP) said "Why not just do it?  What would it hurt?"
Consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary (PETITION)
https://lifepetitions.com/petition/consecrate-russia-to-the-immaculate-heart-of-mary-petition

"We would be mistaken to think that Fatima's prophetic mission is complete." Benedict XVI May 13, 2010

"Tell people that God gives graces through the Immaculate Heart of Mary.  Tell them also to pray to the Immaculate Heart of Mary for peace, since God has entrusted it to Her." Saint Jacinta Marto

The real nature of hope is "despair, overcome."
Source

james03

QuoteIt's kind of strange that Trump nominated Alexander Acosta to be Labor Secretary though considering in "2007–2008, as U.S. attorney, Acosta approved a plea deal that allowed human-trafficking ring-leader Jeffrey Epstein to plead guilty to a single state charge of solicitation in exchange for a federal non-prosecution agreement."

I really hate this factoid because it is used to protect Florida Prosecutor (((Barry Krischer))) who originally let Epstein off.  So Acosta got involved with Federal charges.  Acosta got Epstein registered as a sex offender and forced Epstein into civil lawsuits which ultimately revealed everything during discovery.  I read that Acosta was told to back off by the CIA because he was going to end up uncovering the Mossad operation.   Blame him for backing down, but Acosta was a bit player.  (((Krischer))) was the main villain and you probably never heard of him.
"But he that doth not believe, is already judged: because he believeth not in the name of the only begotten Son of God (Jn 3:18)."

"All sorrow leads to the foot of the Cross.  Weep for your sins."

"Although He should kill me, I will trust in Him"

mikemac

I see.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2019/11/20/jeffrey-epstein-saga-couldve-been-ended-attorney-barry-krischer/4237757002/
QuoteHow the Epstein saga could've been ended years ago: To his first prosecutors, victims were prostitutes
...
To the scores of Epstein's victims – many of them poor and from troubled homes – the deal was nothing short of betrayal. By labeling them prostitutes, Krischer confirmed their beliefs that no one cared.
Like John Vennari (RIP) said "Why not just do it?  What would it hurt?"
Consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary (PETITION)
https://lifepetitions.com/petition/consecrate-russia-to-the-immaculate-heart-of-mary-petition

"We would be mistaken to think that Fatima's prophetic mission is complete." Benedict XVI May 13, 2010

"Tell people that God gives graces through the Immaculate Heart of Mary.  Tell them also to pray to the Immaculate Heart of Mary for peace, since God has entrusted it to Her." Saint Jacinta Marto

The real nature of hope is "despair, overcome."
Source