Has anyone ever converted a Jew to traditional Catholicism? How can it be done?

Started by GiftOfGod, December 21, 2021, 02:14:37 PM

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GiftOfGod

Quote from: Chestertonian on December 25, 2021, 12:48:01 AM
Why assume that all Jewish people hate Christ and Christianity?[...]

Quote from: BG on December 25, 2021, 12:00:10 PM
[...]animosity to Christ, white people, or Christians, as is characteristic of the Jewish people generally.
Quote from: Maximilian on December 30, 2021, 11:15:48 AM
Quote from: Goldfinch on December 30, 2021, 10:36:10 AM
Quote from: Innocent Smith on December 30, 2021, 10:25:55 AM
If attending Mass, the ordinary form as celebrated everyday around the world be sinful, then the Church no longer exists. Period.
Rather, if the NOM were the lex credendi of the Church, then the Church would no longer exist. However, the true mass and the true sacraments still exist and will hold the candle of faith until Our Lord steps in to restore His Bride to her glory.
We could compare ourselves to the Catholics in England at the time of the Reformation. Was it sinful for them to attend Cranmer's service?
We have to remind ourselves that all the machinery of the "Church" continued in place. They had priests, bishops, churches, cathedrals. But all of them were using the new "Book of Common Prayer" instead of the Catholic Mass. Ordinary lay people could see with their own eyes an enormous entity that called itself the "Church," but did the true Church still exist in that situation? Meanwhile, in small hiding places in certain homes were a handful of true priests offering the true Mass at the risk of imprisonment, torture and death.


Jayne

Gift, do you mean to point out a difference between BG's and Chestertonian's perspectives?  There is nothing strange about that.  They are different people.
Jesus, meek and humble of heart, make my heart like unto Thine.

GiftOfGod

Quote from: Jayne on December 25, 2021, 01:48:20 PM
Gift, do you mean to point out a difference between BG's and Chestertonian's perspectives?  There is nothing strange about that.  They are different people.
Chestertonian asked a question that implied I was wrong and BG backs up what I said.
Quote from: Maximilian on December 30, 2021, 11:15:48 AM
Quote from: Goldfinch on December 30, 2021, 10:36:10 AM
Quote from: Innocent Smith on December 30, 2021, 10:25:55 AM
If attending Mass, the ordinary form as celebrated everyday around the world be sinful, then the Church no longer exists. Period.
Rather, if the NOM were the lex credendi of the Church, then the Church would no longer exist. However, the true mass and the true sacraments still exist and will hold the candle of faith until Our Lord steps in to restore His Bride to her glory.
We could compare ourselves to the Catholics in England at the time of the Reformation. Was it sinful for them to attend Cranmer's service?
We have to remind ourselves that all the machinery of the "Church" continued in place. They had priests, bishops, churches, cathedrals. But all of them were using the new "Book of Common Prayer" instead of the Catholic Mass. Ordinary lay people could see with their own eyes an enormous entity that called itself the "Church," but did the true Church still exist in that situation? Meanwhile, in small hiding places in certain homes were a handful of true priests offering the true Mass at the risk of imprisonment, torture and death.


Jayne

Quote from: GiftOfGod on December 25, 2021, 02:07:01 PM
Quote from: Jayne on December 25, 2021, 01:48:20 PM
Gift, do you mean to point out a difference between BG's and Chestertonian's perspectives?  There is nothing strange about that.  They are different people.
Chestertonian asked a question that implied I was wrong and BG backs up what I said.

Even people who come from a Jewish background can only speak of their personal experience of Jews.  I can't think of anyone in a position to make statements about all Jews.
Jesus, meek and humble of heart, make my heart like unto Thine.

TerrorDæmonum

Quote from: Jayne on December 25, 2021, 02:18:10 PM
I can't think of anyone in a position to make statements about all Jews.

"All Jews are not represented by any single individual Jewish person."

"All Jews are human beings."

Bonaventure

Quote from: GiftOfGod on December 22, 2021, 04:48:25 PM
Quote from: Maximilian on December 22, 2021, 04:44:25 PM... And to make a long story short ...
Quote from: Jayne on December 21, 2021, 02:59:32 PMI started dating my future husband, a Catholic.

So there you go, GiftofGod, if you want to know how to convert a Jew, that's how you can go about it.
No offense to Jayne but Jewish women are known for being scolds. And I've been to Jewish delis before. Most of their food is  :vomit:

It is incredible that you took the time to log in and out of two accounts to post on the same thread.

Reminds me of the movie Split with James McAvoy.

Maybe you'll download the BetterHelp app and see a therapist.

drummerboy

"My hope is the Father, my refuge is the Son, my protection is the Holy Spirit.  Holy Trinity, glory to You." 
"All my hope I place in you, O Mother of God; keep me under your protection."

diaduit

Quote from: Bonaventure on May 12, 2024, 01:34:25 PM
Quote from: GiftOfGod on December 22, 2021, 04:48:25 PM
Quote from: Maximilian on December 22, 2021, 04:44:25 PM... And to make a long story short ...
Quote from: Jayne on December 21, 2021, 02:59:32 PMI started dating my future husband, a Catholic.

So there you go, GiftofGod, if you want to know how to convert a Jew, that's how you can go about it.
No offense to Jayne but Jewish women are known for being scolds. And I've been to Jewish delis before. Most of their food is  :vomit:

It is incredible that you took the time to log in and out of two accounts to post on the same thread.

Reminds me of the movie Split with James McAvoy.

Maybe you'll download the BetterHelp app and see a therapist.

How did I miss this....was GoG - Joseph?

Miriam_M

Quote from: diaduit on June 07, 2024, 03:14:16 AM
Quote from: Bonaventure on May 12, 2024, 01:34:25 PM
Quote from: GiftOfGod on December 22, 2021, 04:48:25 PM
Quote from: Maximilian on December 22, 2021, 04:44:25 PM... And to make a long story short ...
Quote from: Jayne on December 21, 2021, 02:59:32 PMI started dating my future husband, a Catholic.

So there you go, GiftofGod, if you want to know how to convert a Jew, that's how you can go about it.
No offense to Jayne but Jewish women are known for being scolds. And I've been to Jewish delis before. Most of their food is  :vomit:

It is incredible that you took the time to log in and out of two accounts to post on the same thread.

Reminds me of the movie Split with James McAvoy.

Maybe you'll download the BetterHelp app and see a therapist.

How did I miss this....was GoG - Joseph?

Their posting habits were not similar, i.m.o.  But since the thread was resurrected, I'll chime in on the subject, which is that I myself have never help convert a Jew, but I have known Jews who converted to Catholicism (or in one case reverted).  The successful approach seems to be to emphasize the continuity and logical evolution from Judaism to Christianity, including the idea of moving from temple sacrifice to Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

The idea of Catholic Tradition would be no hurdle at all for such converts, since Jews of all branches value and respect tradition; it's a quintessential aspect of ancient Judaism and something needing no explanation to them.

Michael Wilson

A good friend of my brother's who was Jewish, was sitting in the back terrace of our home talking with my brother, myself and two of my sisters; the conversation came around to Catholicism and he asked us to Baptize him as he wanted to become a Catholic; so we took him over to the pantry sink and poured holy water on him and baptized him! We found out latter that we should not have done so, as he was only saying this in a moment of fervor and did nothing else to become a Catholic and has remained a secular non-practicing Jew till this day. We still pray for him every day.
So you could say that I played a part in the baptizing of a Jew, but not his conversion.
"The World Must Conform to Our Lord and not He to it." Rev. Dennis Fahey CSSP

"My brothers, all of you, if you are condemned to see the triumph of evil, never applaud it. Never say to evil: you are good; to decadence: you are progess; to death: you are life. Sanctify yourselves in the times wherein God has placed you; bewail the evils and the disorders which God tolerates; oppose them with the energy of your works and your efforts, your life uncontaminated by error, free from being led astray, in such a way that having lived here below, united with the Spirit of the Lord, you will be admitted to be made but one with Him forever and ever: But he who is joined to the Lord is one in spirit." Cardinal Pie of Potiers

Hannelore

Quote from: Michael Wilson on June 15, 2024, 08:02:13 AMA good friend of my brother's who was Jewish, was sitting in the back terrace of our home talking with my brother, myself and two of my sisters; the conversation came around to Catholicism and he asked us to Baptize him as he wanted to become a Catholic; so we took him over to the pantry sink and poured holy water on him and baptized him! We found out latter that we should not have done so, as he was only saying this in a moment of fervor and did nothing else to become a Catholic and has remained a secular non-practicing Jew till this day. We still pray for him every day.
So you could say that I played a part in the baptizing of a Jew, but not his conversion.
:o
My Lord and my God.

Bonaventure

Quote from: drummerboy on June 06, 2024, 11:46:22 PMhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R7qgmIQ6n-4&pp=ygUYUm9iIHNjaG5laWRlciBjb212ZXJzaW9u

This flew under the radar: Rob Schneider of all guys converted to Catholicism.  Not a trad, but he does have a Jewish father.

It also helped that Rob had a Filipina mother. His mother attended the University of Santo Tomás, a Dominican run pontifical university, in the late 1940s, early 1950s.

Quotehttps://chnetwork.org/story/aaron-b-huberfeld-story-of-my-conversion/

https://www.ncregister.com/blog/mother-miriam-conversion-story

And don't forget these

I like Mo. Miriam

Aethel

Quote from: GiftOfGod on December 21, 2021, 02:14:37 PMI have not converted a Jew nor have I ever tried. There's not a specific Jew that I have in mind. I would imagine that it would be extra difficult to convert a Jew due to their innate hatred of Christ, which is why I'm interested in taking on this challenge. Do you have any recommendations on how to do this?

My friends wife is Jewish and converted to Catholicism. Although she's autistic.