Dangers of 5G

Started by Miriam_M, August 12, 2018, 10:57:00 AM

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clau clau

We have essentially no control over whether we live or die -- except that we should avoid dangerous behaviors like smoking, becoming obese, not wearing seat belts, texting while driving, etc. Otherwise, over a trillion cells carry on countless biochemical processes that we have no control over. One out of four people will get cancer. Beyond avoiding foolish behavior, we can't influence that risk.
Father time has an undefeated record.

But when he's dumb and no more here,
Nineteen hundred years or near,
Clau-Clau-Claudius shall speak clear.
(https://completeandunabridged.blogspot.com/2009/06/i-claudius.html)

martin88nyc

Quote from: clau clau on October 22, 2018, 05:05:28 AM
We have essentially no control over whether we live or die -- except that we should avoid dangerous behaviors like smoking, becoming obese, not wearing seat belts, texting while driving, etc. Otherwise, over a trillion cells carry on countless biochemical processes that we have no control over. One out of four people will get cancer. Beyond avoiding foolish behavior, we can't influence that risk.
This isn't just about cancer
"These things I have spoken to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you shall have distress: but have confidence, I have overcome the world." John 16:33

martin88nyc

"These things I have spoken to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you shall have distress: but have confidence, I have overcome the world." John 16:33

TradGranny

Quote from: clau clau on October 22, 2018, 05:05:28 AM
We have essentially no control over whether we live or die -- except that we should avoid dangerous behaviors like smoking, becoming obese, not wearing seat belts, texting while driving, etc. Otherwise, over a trillion cells carry on countless biochemical processes that we have no control over. One out of four people will get cancer. Beyond avoiding foolish behavior, we can't influence that risk.

There are always things we can do. One example is rejecting a so-called Smart Meter. We have to pay an extra $10 a month and we had to pay to NOT have it installed, but it's worth it for those of us who become ill from wifi exposure. (We have corded phones and corded laptop and use a cell phone only to text.)
To have courage for whatever comes in life - everything lies in that.
Saint Teresa of Avila

GloriaPatri

#19
Quote from: TradGranny on April 01, 2019, 01:59:52 PM
Quote from: clau clau on October 22, 2018, 05:05:28 AM
We have essentially no control over whether we live or die -- except that we should avoid dangerous behaviors like smoking, becoming obese, not wearing seat belts, texting while driving, etc. Otherwise, over a trillion cells carry on countless biochemical processes that we have no control over. One out of four people will get cancer. Beyond avoiding foolish behavior, we can't influence that risk.

There are always things we can do. One example is rejecting a so-called Smart Meter. We have to pay an extra $10 a month and we had to pay to NOT have it installed, but it's worth it for those of us who become ill from wifi exposure. (We have corded phones and corded laptop and use a cell phone only to text.)

The electromagnetic waves produced by wifi routers are significantly less powerful that the sunlight that you walk around in every day. By a factor of ~100,000. There's little to no reason to think that 5G is going to raise cancer rates by a statistically significant amount.

Addendum: A cellphone overheating in your pocket is a much more likely threat than the cellular towers themselves, especially if the battery was cheaply made in order to save the manufacturer money.

martin88nyc

Quote from: GloriaPatri on April 01, 2019, 04:00:30 PM
Quote from: TradGranny on April 01, 2019, 01:59:52 PM
Quote from: clau clau on October 22, 2018, 05:05:28 AM
We have essentially no control over whether we live or die -- except that we should avoid dangerous behaviors like smoking, becoming obese, not wearing seat belts, texting while driving, etc. Otherwise, over a trillion cells carry on countless biochemical processes that we have no control over. One out of four people will get cancer. Beyond avoiding foolish behavior, we can't influence that risk.

There are always things we can do. One example is rejecting a so-called Smart Meter. We have to pay an extra $10 a month and we had to pay to NOT have it installed, but it's worth it for those of us who become ill from wifi exposure. (We have corded phones and corded laptop and use a cell phone only to text.)

The electromagnetic waves produced by wifi routers are significantly less powerful that the sunlight that you walk around in every day. By a factor of ~100,000. There's little to no reason to think that 5G is going to raise cancer rates by a statistically significant amount.

Addendum: A cellphone overheating in your pocket is a much more likely threat than the cellular towers themselves, especially if the battery was cheaply made in order to save the manufacturer money.
you are missing the point. it's not about cancer. Did you read anything I posted. Doctors and scientists are alarming.
https://www.5gappeal.eu/
"These things I have spoken to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you shall have distress: but have confidence, I have overcome the world." John 16:33

dymphnaw

Remember when the media tried to scare us about 3G?

martin88nyc

Quote from: dymphnaw on April 03, 2019, 02:39:32 PM
Remember when the media tried to scare us about 3G?
Do your own research. Especially read how different frequencies affect our biological processes. I have done a lot research and made up my mind.
"These things I have spoken to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you shall have distress: but have confidence, I have overcome the world." John 16:33

martin88nyc

In 2011, WHO'S International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) reviewed several studies that detailed the effects of a wide range of RF-EMF radiations (from 30 kilohertz to 300 gigahertz) on humans as well as rats, and concluded that the radiations are "possibly carcinogenic to humans".

In 2018, a peer reviewed report published by the National Toxicology Program (NTP) of the US National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences found RF-EMF of 900 mega hertz, used by 3G and 4G networks, led to incidences of malignant heart schwannomas (cancer that attacks nerve tissues) in male and female rats. The report also found evidence that the radiation caused glioma (malignant tumour in the brain) in the rats.

That year, Cesare Maltoni Cancer Research Centre of the Ramazzini Institute in Italy published a 13-year-long study that evaluated the impact of 1.8 GHz RF-EMF radiation on the incidence of heart schwannomas and glioma in 2,448 rats. It found an incre ased incidence of the diseases in them.

5G requires RF-EMF radiation between 600 MHz and 86 GHz, which fall well within the range analysed by all the three studies.

Cancer is not the only disease that such radiation can cause. Scientists have so far linked 5G to at least 20 ailments, including heart diseases, type-2 diabetes and mental disturba nces such as depression, anxiety and suicidal tendencies.

"All artificial electromagnetic radiations are bad because our biological systems are not adapted to it. They disrupt metabolism," says Paul Heroux, professor of toxicology and health effects of electromagnetism at the McGill University Health Center in Canada. "The evidence has been there, but ignored for decades. 5G will promote cell phone use, and therefore human exposures from phones and base stations. The higher frequencies will concentrate the radiation in a smaller portion of the human body," he says, adding that children are particularly vulnerable to its effects. Higher frequencies of 5G will also penetrate much deeper into the human body because of a phenomenon called beam-forming unique to the technology which brings together electromagnetic signals from multiple antennas to create signals with greater intensity and better reach.
"These things I have spoken to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you shall have distress: but have confidence, I have overcome the world." John 16:33

Aeternitus

Total Data Domination: 5G, IoT, AI Surveillance And The Smart City

By Patrick Wood

"People who have a modern smartphone normally think of 5G as nothing more than a progression from 3G and 4G. Offering fewer dropped calls, faster data transfer, and more convenience. 5G is the fifth generation of wireless technology.

This thinking barely scratches the surface. There must be a greater reason why CEOs of major cellular carriers are breaking their necks to railroad the fastest implementation in history of a new communication standard.

This reason has little to do with your personal cellphone and everything to do with the so-called Internet of Things (IoT) where all electronic devices will be connected together in real-time. Collectively, the IoT is the core technology used to implement Smart City makeovers.

"Real time" is a magical tech term. 5G is at least one order of magnitude faster than anything before it. It is comparable to everything being connected directly by fiber-optic cable where as soon as you touch the send key, your data transmission is received at the other end, faster than a blink of your eye.

Let's do some math. 4G can transfer data at 100,000,000 bits per second (which is 10 megabits per second). That's really fast! However, 5G blows out the same data at 10,000,000,000 bits per second, or 10 Gbps (Gigabits per second). This is 100 times faster than 4G. Secondly, 4G has a typical "ping" factor between 10ms and 50ms (milliseconds) that measures the time needed in order to send a single packet of information. 5G drops that time to 1ms.

In spite of the cutthroat American race between wireless providers like AT&T, Verizon and T-Mobile, China has declared that it intends to emerge as the global leader on 5G rollout to its own 1.4 billion citizens. China is also mass-producing the technology to sell to the rest of the world.

In the U.S., 5G is being heavily promoted by the Trump Administration. The Federal Communications Commission issued a ruling in September that blocks cities from charging higher fees for installing 5G infrastructure. Loud protests have been registered from the U.S. Conference of Mayors, the National Association of Counties, the National Governors Association and the Nation Conference of State Legislatures. Why? Because the FCC's actions are unconstitutional and cities are being stripped of the little sovereignty they have left. Thus far, the FCC is undeterred in its position.

Smart City technology is brought to us exclusively by Big Tech corporations in the name of Technocracy and Sustainable Development. With the advent of sophisticated Artificial Intelligence (AI) programs, massive amounts of data collected from sensors of all types can be analyzed in real-time, displaying the results in a multi-dimensional model. What are sensors? Cameras, microphones, self-driving vehicles, license-plate readers, cell phones, Bluetooth devices, Smart Meters and all connected devices in Smart Homes.
Thanks to real-time connections between autonomous vehicles, road censors and central computers equipped with AI, they will be able to navigate any and all roadways with authority and impunity. They will also inform on you every inch of the way.

In China, where all of this massive surveillance is weaponized against civilians, Technocrats have implemented a Social Credit Score assigned by algorithm, to all 1.4 billion inhabitants. By 2020, China intends to have 600 million facial recognition cameras installed, or about one camera for every 4 citizens. All of them will transmit their images in real-time to central computers running sophisticated AI programs. Each person in the big-data database will have their personal data pulled from every conceivable location in the nation. By the time that they know who you are, what you are, what you do, what you think and what you intend to do, their AI algorithms will calculate and assign to you a Social Credit Score that will limit or expand whatever privileges you will have from that time on.
The Social Credit Score system is coming to America as well, unless we somehow convince our own officials that this is a horrible idea that will utterly destroy the American dream.

Nothing has changed in the 85 years since Technocracy, Inc. defined its original mission in 1938:
Technocracy is the science of social engineering, the scientific operation of the entire social mechanism to produce and distribute goods and services to the entire population.

Scoffers may argue that history does not mean anything and there is no relevance to modern times. If they understood history, they would not say such a thing. For instance, consider 'ride-sharing' schemes where nobody owns a vehicle and everyone shares a common pool of community owned autos. This idea is not new. Technocrats had it in their sights as early as 1934:

The Automotive Branch of Transportation would provide a network of garages at convenient places all over the country from which automobiles could be had at any hour of the night or day. No automobiles would be privately owned. When one wished to use an automobile he would merely call the garage, present his driver's license, and a car of the type needed would be assigned to him. 'When he was through with the car, he would return it either to the same garage or to any other garage that happened to be convenient, and surrender his Energy Certificates in payment for the cost incurred while he was using it.

I will suggest that the modern world cannot be even remotely understood except in terms of Technocracy and its inevitable outcome: Scientific Dictatorship. Every major meme in global geo-politics, economics and globalization, devolution of national sovereignty, etc., is dancing to the Technocrat drumbeat.

As to today, 5G is about to deliver the ultimate tool for total control over Americans, and it has nothing to do with your cell phones getting a speed upgrade"

https://the5gsummit.com/

percival

Developed in Israel and banned way before international installation there locally. Media is very silent on the topic; news articles not even half as crass and bold in favour of implementing such new measures as usual. Maybe it's cause there just isn't any way to spin this around in a truly convincing, marketable way? Or people are really that dumb that faster mobile internet is even a question in 2019? It seems to me this literally barely benefits the consumer. If any of your forefathers had seen and been made to understand this wholly, surely they would see it as an act of warfare and be up in arms, figuratively speaking of course, of course.

martin88nyc

Quote from: percival on October 16, 2019, 03:00:32 PM
Developed in Israel and banned way before international installation there locally. Media is very silent on the topic; news articles not even half as crass and bold in favour of implementing such new measures as usual. Maybe it's cause there just isn't any way to spin this around in a truly convincing, marketable way? Or people are really that dumb that faster mobile internet is even a question in 2019? It seems to me this literally barely benefits the consumer. If any of your forefathers had seen and been made to understand this wholly, surely they would see it as an act of warfare and be up in arms, figuratively speaking of course, of course.
It is an act of warfare against the whole world to be honest. There are already people who report sickness in UK and hundreds of engineers and scientists cannot believe this technology which is used by military will be now rolled out across USA.
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Here, Erin Brokovich Firm Joins Lawsuit Against FCC and Telecom Act

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNpGDUbWZFo&feature=youtu.be

https://www.gofundme.com/f/y6ca8t-suing-fcc-for-protection-from-5g
"These things I have spoken to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you shall have distress: but have confidence, I have overcome the world." John 16:33

TradGranny

To have courage for whatever comes in life - everything lies in that.
Saint Teresa of Avila

dellery

#28
I get 5g all the time in Chicago, at least that's what my phone says, and haven't noticed a bit of difference in speed. 
Avoiding 5g should be pretty easy if you live in the US. Apply for a USDA loan and remote housing grant, or whatever it's called, and go build your house, in 180 days, out in the country. If 5g really causes cancer and such it's worth moving to avoid, at least until it's beamed all over the place from orbiting satellites. You might luck out and starve to death in a civil war before 5g gives you cancer. Not if you live in the country though, that's where food grows, and runs around. City people wont even be able to eat the squirrels and rabbits cause they'll have been contaminated by the 5g.
Once something has been labeled poisonous, even if it's not, that something can now be liberally poisoned, and the blame will be all on the person using, or taking part in, the poisonous something --not the person spreading the poison. The invocation of Satan seen in a pack of cigarettes.
Blessed are those who plant trees under whose shade they will never sit.

The closer you get to life the better death will be; the closer you get to death the better life will be.

Nous Defions
St. Phillip Neri, pray for us.

martin88nyc

Quote from: dellery on October 23, 2019, 08:12:16 PM
I get 5g all the time in Chicago, at least that's what my phone says, and haven't noticed a bit of difference in speed. 
Avoiding 5g should be pretty easy if you live in the US. Apply for a USDA loan and remote housing grant, or whatever it's called, and go build your house, in 180 days, out in the country. If 5g really causes cancer and such it's worth moving to avoid, at least until it's beamed all over the place from orbiting satellites. You might luck out and starve to death in a civil war before 5g gives you cancer. Not if you live in the country though, that's where food grows, and runs around. City people wont even be able to eat the squirrels and rabbits cause they'll have been contaminated by the 5g.
Once something has been labeled poisonous, even if it's not, that something can now be liberally poisoned, and the blame will be all on the person using, or taking part in, the poisonous something --not the person spreading the poison. The invocation of Satan seen in a pack of cigarettes.
It's not 5G yet. It om;y shows 5G symbol but it isn;t the real super fast 5G yet. It will take a couple of years before we get those high speeds
"These things I have spoken to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you shall have distress: but have confidence, I have overcome the world." John 16:33