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#21

Ask a Traditionalist / Re: Study Bible

Last post by drummerboy - March 25, 2025, 02:54:06 PM

I wish there was a catholic equivalent of the Orthodox  Study Bible.

I was thinking the same thing as I wrote that!  There aren't really enough Eastern Catholics to make it worthwhile as a whole new venture, probably.  But there are only two books (three for the Slavs) and two very small prayers in the Eastern canon that go beyond the Latin canon.  It probably wouldn't be much for Ignatius Press to get those translated from a Catholic perspective and add them into their study bible as a Byzantine Catholic edition.

Which two books?  I know the Ethiopian Orthodox consider Enoch as part of their Canon.

#22

General Catholic Discussion / Re: Happy Feast of the Annunci...

Last post by Lynne - March 25, 2025, 02:05:54 PM

Happy Feast Day to you too!

#23

Ask a Traditionalist / Re: Study Bible

Last post by Melkite - March 25, 2025, 01:54:23 PM

I wish there was a catholic equivalent of the Orthodox  Study Bible.

I was thinking the same thing as I wrote that!  There aren't really enough Eastern Catholics to make it worthwhile as a whole new venture, probably.  But there are only two books (three for the Slavs) and two very small prayers in the Eastern canon that go beyond the Latin canon.  It probably wouldn't be much for Ignatius Press to get those translated from a Catholic perspective and add them into their study bible as a Byzantine Catholic edition.

#24

Ask a Traditionalist / Re: Study Bible

Last post by KreKre - March 25, 2025, 01:53:29 PM

It's not an unwarranted presumption, but the text that you quoted specifies Protestant bibles, so it is possible that this is all that was intended.

Well the last sentence pretty much includes all non-approved bibles:

It is for that same reason that the Church even forbids translations of the Holy Scriptures already approved by her which have been reprinted without the footnotes approved by her.

#25

Ask a Traditionalist / Bible translations

Last post by martin88nyc - March 25, 2025, 01:52:11 PM

I know The Douay Rheims is considered the most literal and accurate catholic version of the Bible. What would be the second best then? RSV2CE? Is there a DR edition with Confraternity NT?
I recently discovered a new translation of the Bible called St. Joseph New Catholic Bible (NCB) and it's quite good in my opinion. Do you guys have an experience with this translation?

#26

Ask a Traditionalist / Re: Study Bible

Last post by martin88nyc - March 25, 2025, 01:26:11 PM

I see absolutely no reason to use a non-Catholic Bible.

For Byzantine Catholics, there are no Catholic Bibles that contain our entire Old Testament canon.  We either have to use an Orthodox Bible or a Protestant Bible with the expanded Apocrypha.

I see absolutely no reason to use a non-Catholic Bible.

For Byzantine Catholics, there are no Catholic Bibles that contain our entire Old Testament canon.  We either have to use an Orthodox Bible or a Protestant Bible with the expanded Apocrypha.

I wish there was a catholic equivalent of the Orthodox  Study Bible. The closest we have is the Ignatius Study Bible. The Haydock Bible is great but the print quality is poor and the footnotes are very tiny. You need a magnifying glass to read them.

#27

Ask a Traditionalist / Re: Study Bible

Last post by martin88nyc - March 25, 2025, 01:22:47 PM

I ordered a 4 volume set of Lapide's commentary. Amazon offers a 30% discount.

#28

Ask a Traditionalist / Re: Study Bible

Last post by Melkite - March 25, 2025, 12:35:28 PM

I see absolutely no reason to use a non-Catholic Bible.

For Byzantine Catholics, there are no Catholic Bibles that contain our entire Old Testament canon.  We either have to use an Orthodox Bible or a Protestant Bible with the expanded Apocrypha.

#29

Ask a Traditionalist / Re: Study Bible

Last post by Bernadette - March 25, 2025, 11:54:18 AM

I see absolutely no reason to use a non-Catholic Bible.

#30

Ask a Traditionalist / Re: Study Bible

Last post by Melkite - March 25, 2025, 08:44:03 AM

Before everything was watered down in the 60s, even having in possession a heretical bible was considered a mortal sin, let alone reading it. This mainly includes Protestant bibles, but I would seem that any Orthodox commentary would also fit the description. One had the obligation, under the penalty of mortal sin, to either burn such a book, or bring it to a priest who would then safely dispose of it.


The Catechism of St. Pius X is very clear on this:

30 Q. Why may we only read translations of the Bible approved by the Church?
A. We may only read translations of the Bible approved by the Church because she alone is the lawful guardian of the Bible.

32 Q. What should a Christian do who has been given a Bible by a Protestant or by an agent of the Protestants?
A. A Christian to whom a Bible has been offered by a Protestant or an agent of the Protestants should reject it with disgust, because it is forbidden by the Church. If it was accepted by inadvertence, it must be burnt as soon as possible or handed in to the Parish Priest.

33 Q. Why does the Church forbid Protestant Bibles?
A. The Church forbids Protestant Bibles because, either they have been altered and contain errors, or not having her approbation and footnotes explaining the obscure meanings, they may be harmful to the Faith. It is for that same reason that the Church even forbids translations of the Holy Scriptures already approved by her which have been reprinted without the footnotes approved by her.

You're presuming Orthodox bibles would be included.  It's not an unwarranted presumption, but the text that you quoted specifies Protestant bibles, so it is possible that this is all that was intended.  Protestants are much deeper into heresy than any Orthodox person, if they (the Orthodox) are truly heretics at all.

Considering the Church has deemed the RSV-CE an acceptable translation, I doubt an Orthodox bible wouldn't receive the same approval.  That said, I can agree its use might be problematic for a new Catholic or someone not well grounded in the faith.  But for most of the people on this forum, it would not be difficult to spot the few instances in the footnotes where the Orthodox view differs incompatibly with the Catholic view.  The Orthodox view will be the same as the Catholic view in many of the instances where one would need to guard against Protestant interpretation.