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Catholic Liturgical Life / Re: Novena for SSPX ordinations 2018.
« Last post by Xavier on Today at 06:57:21 AM »
Quote from: Day 8
Our Lord's request for the Sacred Heart Devotion each First Friday of the Month:

“I ask you that the first Friday following the octave of Corpus Christi be dedicated to a special feast to honor My Heart, by the reception of Communion on that day and by making honorable reparation and amends to make up for the indignities It has borne when exposed in the Holy Eucharist upon the altar.”

A Holy Hour in particular is requested by His love.

“Every night of Thursday to Friday,” our Lord told St. Margaret Mary, “I will make you share in the mortal sadness that I desired to feel in the Garden of Olives. To accompany Me in the humble prayer that I made then to My Father, you will rise between eleven and midnight; you will prostrate yourself one hour with me, face on the ground, as much to pacify divine anger by begging for mercy for sinners, as to sweeten in a fashion the bitterness that I felt when My apostles abandoned Me, unable to watch even for one hour with Me.”

The Church has long blessed the nocturnal prayer required of its monks.

Our Lord seems to consecrate it anew and clarify its meaning: in the homage of satisfaction it brings to God for those who do not know Him, it adds, through the sacrifice it imposes on nature, this consoling reparation to the Heart of the God-Man, who makes this hour of prayer into the hour of Gesthemane.

Novena to the Holy Ghost Leading to Priestly Ordinations at St. Thomas Aquinas Seminary

DAY 8:

Embodying all the other gifts, as charity embraces all the other virtues, Wisdom is the most perfect of the gifts. Of wisdom it is written "all good things came to me with her, and innumerable riches through her hands." It is the gift of Wisdom that strengthens our faith, fortifies hope, perfects charity, and promotes the practice of virtue in the highest degree. Wisdom enlightens the mind to discern and relish things divine, in the appreciation of which earthly joys lose their savor, whilst the Cross of Christ yields a divine sweetness according to the words of the Savior: "Take up thy cross and follow me, for my yoke is sweet and my burden light.

Come, O Spirit of Wisdom, and reveal to my soul the mysteries of heavenly things, their exceeding greatness, power and beauty. Teach me to love them above and beyond all the passing joys and satisfactions of earth. Help me to attain them and possess them for ever. Amen.

(Our Father and Hail Mary once. Glory be to the Father 7 times)


But what does an individual's subjective notion of the value of gasoline have to do with anything apart from that individual's financial budget?

The price of gas is set by the suppliers.

1.  You switched from value to price.  Did you realize that?

2.  Millions of individuals have different values.  Furthermore they have values for different quantities.  Taken together this is referred to as the Demand Curve.

The subjective value of oil to the Soviets must have remained high, though, even as the price fell through the floor.
So price and value are separate things.

Did I? Probably. That could be because I don't really understand what you're getting at.

Your argument is that subjective value alone determines price? I can see how that works in the case of non necessary goods.

But how does that work in the example I gave? OPEC deliberately pumped increasing quantities of oil in order to crash the price and cripple the Soviet Union.
General Catholic Discussion / Re: Fr. Phillips exonerated
« Last post by bigbadtrad on Today at 05:17:58 AM »
Not to be negative, but I just read the exoneration and it says he violated no law civil, criminal, or canonical. Wasn't he accused of consensual homosexual relations and if so I know that does not violate the criminal or civil law, but does it violate canon law?

I hope so and I hope the best for him because if the allegations were false (something not stated which I find weird) then I pray for him and his priesthood because I've met him and while I may not agree with him I found him to be a kind and gentle soul. He was very kind to me years back. If he was falsely accused my heart breaks for the man because it's a scourge on his life very very unjustly.

Yes, homosexual relationships are in violation of current Canon Law.

"Can. 277 §1. Clerics are obliged to observe perfect and perpetual continence for the sake of the kingdom of heaven and therefore are bound to celibacy which is a special gift of God by which sacred ministers can adhere more easily to Christ with an undivided heart and are able to dedicate themselves more freely to the service of God and humanity."

Clerics are also obliged under canon law to avoid companions that could either tempt them and or give the appearance of scandal to the faithful. 

"§2. Clerics are to behave with due prudence towards persons whose company can endanger their obligation to observe continence or give rise to scandal among the faithful."

Thanks for taking your time out to find the relevant canons. This is a huge deal and I'm elated for Fr. Phillips, but sadly like most of these cases the world knows of your guilt but rarely of your innocence. I hope he finds solace.
General News and Discussion / Re: Separating families at border
« Last post by Greg on Today at 04:52:28 AM »
The central American countries benefit FAR more from the USA.

Ever heard of smallpox, yellow fever, air conditioning, mobile phones, containerised shipping, oxytocin and misoprostol?

The day central America gives up the gifts from the western democracies is the same day I will take their "exploitation" argument seriously.

They have contributed almost nothing to the world apart from some natural resources which they were too lazy or stupid to dig up or cut down or pump out until we turned up and had to bribe their politicians to let us organise the removal of.  It's not even like they had to lead the way.  Simply copy the text books of the civilised world's into their own Creole and imitate our universities.  The Orientals did this.  And good on them.  Now they have great cities built by their own hands.  I salute them.

Kuala Lumpur is marvellous.  Just amazing.

Overall the colonised countries are MUCH better off than if we had completely left them alone, "prime directive" style.

So some Bengalese died in a famine during world war 2 because the British mismanged the distribution or fed soldiers first.  So what?  Looking at modern Bengal this is not exact a giant loss to the world is it?  Even the Burmese don't want these people loitering around.

If a load of white British chavs starved to death because they cut welfare payments to zero, I wouldn't lose much sleep over it either.  The vision of robots doing all the work while a tattoooed class of moronic British monkeys spend all day drinking and cursing at each other seems like a terrible one to me.  Better that they are dead from starvation and those with the wit and the will to find something more productive to do with their lives like work and raise functional children, are left some "breathing room".

There are some people you simply cannot lift from the gutter.  So.... down the drain they must go with the next rains.

As long as you don't actually make it rain, and just let circumstances prevail, then I see no moral problem.

In the same way we don't have to do everything possible to keep a patient alive, even if they want to be kept alive.  Just what is easy and reasonable, like food, water and simple medical interventions.

General News and Discussion / Re: Separating families at border
« Last post by Miriam_M on Today at 04:24:18 AM »
Mike, if the U.S. took responsibility for "fixing" the economic problems which you claim were entirely created by the First World, and specifically the U.S., systemic problems would remain.  It's called illiteracy.  It's called Third World.  It's called (essentially) pre-industrialization, never mind pre-technology (that too).  These people were not even near to being a contemporary economy -- say, a late 20th century economy, long before (you claim) that free trade agreements ruined their countries.  That's a myth perpetrated by the Left.

Yes, NAFTA and CAFTA and other arrangements chased Latin Americans from their farming lands, which was wrong, and which precipitated their move out of their country and to the North.  But what that emigration really revealed was that they were not prepared to do anything but farm and engage in other low-skilled work.  When they come to the States they can do only low-skilled work.  And trade agreements didn't cause that.  Long before trade agreements with the North, these countries were backward to the core.  That's what Kaesekopf just said as well.

They may not have had a thriving economy after trade agreements, but neither did they before those.  And for the latter, we cannot be held accountable because it amounts to far more than fixing an economy.
General News and Discussion / Re: Separating families at border
« Last post by Kaesekopf on Today at 02:48:38 AM »
CAFTA-DR has been around since 2005.

Those shitholes have been shitholes long before '05.
General News and Discussion / Re: Separating families at border
« Last post by mikemac on Today at 02:11:28 AM »
The problem, Mike, with "helping the economies" of other countries, is that help involves complex variables.  It includes education (for some jobs), skills (for virtually all jobs), and an end to corruption (bribes, exorbitant fees, and more) within those countries.

The U.S. has been criticized often in the past for assuming the role of Global Police Force, and being global miracle-worker (including dedicating our own labor & funds to countries other than our own) is subject to legitimate criticism within our own country.  Yet fixing the internal affairs of other countries requires a level of intervention from us -- or a level of joint initiative between two countries (something we have tried often with Mexico, and have often failed) -- that is beyond our political and moral responsibility, due to the size of such multiple projects (not just one).

It's much more complicated than just ending NAFTA.  It requires cooperation and transparency between governments.

It turns out it's the US where the corruption originates.  Have you read this yet?  This so called DR-CAFTA "Free Trade" agreement needs to end.

What “Free Trade” Has Done to Central America
Warnings about the human and environmental costs of “free trade” went unheeded. Now the most vulnerable Central Americans are paying the price.

A prime example is the Dominican Republic-Central America Free Trade Agreement, or DR-CAFTA. Brokered by the George W. Bush administration and a handful of hemispheric allies, the pact has had a devastating effect on poverty, dislocation, and environmental contamination in the region.

And perhaps even worse, it’s diminished the ability of Central American countries to protect their citizens from corporate abuse.

Overall economic indicators in the region have been poor, with some governments unable to provide basic services to the population. Farmers have been displaced when they can’t compete with grain imported from the United States. Amid significant levels of unemployment, labor abuses continue. Workers in export assembly plants often suffer poor working conditions and low wages. And natural resource extraction has proceeded with few protections for the environment.

Contrary to the promises of U.S. officials—who claimed the agreement would improve Central American economies and thereby reduce undocumented immigration—large numbers of Central Americans have migrated to the United States, as dramatized most recently by the influx of children from Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras crossing the U.S.-Mexican border last summer. Although most are urgently fleeing violence in their countries, there are important economic roots to the migration—many of which are related to DR-CAFTA.

One of the most pernicious features of the agreement is a provision called the Investor-State Dispute Settlement mechanism. This allows private corporations to sue governments over alleged violations of a long list of so-called “investor protections.”

The most controversial cases have involved public interest laws and regulations that corporations claim reduce the value of their investments. That means corporations can sue those countries for profits they say they would have made had those regulations not been put into effect.

Such lawsuits can be financially devastating to poor countries that already struggle to provide basic services to their people, much less engage in costly court battles with multinational firms. They can also prevent governments from making democratically accountable decisions in the first place, pushing them to prioritize the interests of transnational corporations over the needs of their citizens.

The US has and still is benefiting from the destruction of these Central American countries.  What I have already told James still applies here ...

Or better yet ...

General News and Discussion / Re: Separating families at border
« Last post by Kaesekopf on Today at 01:08:52 AM »
Regarding crime within Central America, it is obviously rampant.  Second, economic conditions are horrendous.  Third, undoubtedly the governments, like so many others in Latin America as a whole, are corrupt.  The term "cesspool"  (or something more vulgar) comes to mind.

However, Mike and others, this gets back to my much earlier statement about such crises, since there are similar crimes against children in Southeast Asia (trafficking), Africa (varieties of crimes), the rest of Latin America outside of the Central American countries, and probably China, since there's almost no concept of human rights there. 

Are we the refuge for the whole world?  Do we take the position, which cannot be justified morally, that we will house and protect those children who are fortunate enough or whose parents are clever enough to send them to our borders?  Because the latter is a "policy" based on expediency (proximity) and accident.  Now, as individuals, we are always bound in charity to be as charitable and compassionate as a situation in time accidentally presents itself to us, but that is not the way government policy is crafted, because that universal policy is not sustainable on a global basis, and if it's not global but preferential by geography, then it's an unjust policy.

What would you suggest, Mike, as a end-point to asylum seeking?  That there be no end to it?

Import Third World people, get Third World problems.

The land isn't the issue.  It's the people (or the culture). 
General News and Discussion / Re: Separating families at border
« Last post by Kaesekopf on Today at 01:07:26 AM »

I love McDonald's.  The world over, a clean place to take a relatively hygienic dump and wash your hands afterwards.  Urination Utopias.  The Paradise of Poop, The Shangri-La of .....  well you catch my drift.

This is why my father always had us stop at McDonalds on road trips.  You knew that it was going to be a clean and orderly place. 
Arts and Leisure / Re: What are you currently reading?
« Last post by MilesChristi on Today at 12:16:49 AM »
Summa of the Summa
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