Started by Penelope, May 02, 2013, 11:40:40 AM
Quote from: Rose on January 01, 2015, 07:22:01 PMOk, this is a random thought but here goes...Baptism of Desire by proxy- I'm thinking of St. Margaret Clithero, an English saint in the Reformation. She was pregnant when she was executed for the Faith. There was nothing she could have done to have her child baptised. She died a martyr, so would her child have been baptised by desire, by proxy? Following on from that, and it is stretching the point a bit, but if you can have baptism of desire by proxy, could you have this for babies who are aborted, if someone other than the mother earnestly desires that the child could have the chance of baptism?Just thoughts
Quote from: jmjZelie on March 25, 2016, 11:03:01 AMI thought that baptism was a sacrament for those that are born.
Quote from: Geremia on March 25, 2016, 11:13:00 PMQuote from: jmjZelie on March 25, 2016, 11:03:01 AMI thought that baptism was a sacrament for those that are born.Some were sanctified in the womb, like Jeremiah, St. John the Baptist (not to forget Our B.V.M., who was sanctified not just in the womb but ab initio).See Summa III q. 68 a. 1 "Whether a child can be baptized while yet in its mother's womb?".
Quote from: Azelie on May 19, 2017, 07:13:22 PMI know this thread has died, but please forgive me a comment I would like to make. One of my family members who has just been married a year had married a young woman that was not Catholic. At Easter she was taken into the Church after her year of RCIA. I saw a picture of her on that night, she had been baptized, by immersion, which I know is unusual in the Church, and the photo showed her in very wet robe with her very pregnant stomach. Just a couple weeks later the baby boy was born. I was just struck by the idea that the baptized woman had a very close to being born child within. All I could think, was "awesome". I wonder how that effects the baby? Something else to wonder about. Also, my daughter and son-in-law baptized their tiny miscarried baby with the conditional form. I saw the baby, it was very small, but intact. It was barely an inch in size. Some things are just a mystery and we don't get to know until later, but it is so hard not to wonder how it all works.