Chinese dropping like flies

[Graham]

Statistics from the most affected regions of Spain show how grave the situation is. Numbers of deaths from 17th-24th of March compared to average number of deaths in the same time period in previous years:

Castilla-La Mancha: 938 deaths, average from previous years 534 (75% increase)
Castilla-Leon: 885 deaths, average 500 (77% increase)
Madrid: 1318 deaths, average 794 (66% increase).

https://elpais.com/sociedad/2020-03-27/el-coronavirus-causa-mas-muertes-de-las-detectadas.html

No wonder that Madrid is turning ice rink into an improvised morgue.

And it looks like we are only at the beginning, unless warmer weather slows this thing down (which there are no sings of in Australia and Malaysia where the temperatures are quite high).

What do those percentages refer to?  An increase from 534 to 938 is not a 75% increase, for example.  It's less than 50%. 

The others are wrong too.

yikes

[james03]

As Ireland is starting into our week of 'peak' infection, would any of the links above give you an idea if we are up or down or the same on numbers for deaths.

Number don't add up.  Total deaths for 2014 is 6.3/1000 or 630/100,000.  But your pneumonia data shows roughly 1000/100,000, so more than total deaths.

If you do the math, it looks like 1,000 is total pneumonia death, but that is just a guess.

[Fleur-de-Lys]

Statistics from the most affected regions of Spain show how grave the situation is. Numbers of deaths from 17th-24th of March compared to average number of deaths in the same time period in previous years:

Castilla-La Mancha: 938 deaths, average from previous years 534 (75% increase)
Castilla-Leon: 885 deaths, average 500 (77% increase)
Madrid: 1318 deaths, average 794 (66% increase).

https://elpais.com/sociedad/2020-03-27/el-coronavirus-causa-mas-muertes-de-las-detectadas.html

No wonder that Madrid is turning ice rink into an improvised morgue.

And it looks like we are only at the beginning, unless warmer weather slows this thing down (which there are no sings of in Australia and Malaysia where the temperatures are quite high).

What do those percentages refer to?  An increase from 534 to 938 is not a 75% increase, for example.  It's less than 50%. 

The others are wrong too.

75% of 534 is 400.5

534 + 400.5 = 934.5.

So it is actually slightly more than a 75% increase.

The other calculations are similarly accurate.

[awkwardcustomer]

Statistics from the most affected regions of Spain show how grave the situation is. Numbers of deaths from 17th-24th of March compared to average number of deaths in the same time period in previous years:

Castilla-La Mancha: 938 deaths, average from previous years 534 (75% increase)
Castilla-Leon: 885 deaths, average 500 (77% increase)
Madrid: 1318 deaths, average 794 (66% increase).

https://elpais.com/sociedad/2020-03-27/el-coronavirus-causa-mas-muertes-de-las-detectadas.html

No wonder that Madrid is turning ice rink into an improvised morgue.

And it looks like we are only at the beginning, unless warmer weather slows this thing down (which there are no sings of in Australia and Malaysia where the temperatures are quite high).

What do those percentages refer to?  An increase from 534 to 938 is not a 75% increase, for example.  It's less than 50%. 

The others are wrong too.

75% of 534 is 400.5

534 + 400.5 = 934.5.

So it is actually slightly more than a 75% increase.

The other calculations are similarly accurate.

Okay, must have been a brain fog.

But the article is claiming that some coronavirus deaths in Spain are being missed and not recorded as being due to the virus and that the virus death rates are consequently higher.  At least that's what I gathered until I gave up grappling with the figures.

How they know is another matter.  Having had another look at the article, the problem seems to be how a corona death is determined.  Did the patient die of the virus or with the virus? 

[Kreuzritter]

But the article is claiming that some coronavirus deaths in Spain are being missed and not recorded as being due to the virus and that the virus death rates are consequently higher.  At least that's what I gathered until I gave up grappling with the figures.

How they know is another matter.  Having had another look at the article, the problem seems to be how a corona death is determined.  Did the patient die of the virus or with the virus?

Absolute idiots. How could they even presume to make such an inference without knowing the total infection rate to estimate the total number of infected? Have they conducted randomised testing on the population to come up with such a number? Of course they haven't. If anything, the example of the Diamond Princess shows that "asymptomatic" positives are around 50%, meaning most alleged carriers are never going to get themselves tested, which would make death rates considerably lower than taking the one based on their number of "cases".

But how would this, "some coronavirus deaths in Spain are being missed and not recorded as being due to the virus and that the virus death rates are consequently higher", lead to higher death rates in the first place? If we give them the benefit of the doubt that they are not biased toward symptomatic "cases", at worst the large sample from which  this rate is being drawn is random. Considering unreported deaths along with unreported cases in the population at large would change nothing. Why are morons like this allowed to write "scientific" articles?

Did the patient die of the virus or with the virus?

There's really no way for them to determine that. There's no way to actually measure the amount of alleged virus in a person's body. At best one could isolate COVID-19 as the only known factor. But that's all presuming its "presence" is a causal factor in illness, which has never actually been demonstrated. At best there's a correlation, and that doesn't demonstrate causation.

[awkwardcustomer]

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[mikemac]

This is a critical week for Canada as the snow birds come home.  And as the spring break travelers come back.  Critical if they don't quarantine themselves for 14 days and continue with physical distancing so it doesn't end up over whelming the health care system.  I hope they realize that fines and even jail time are in place for those that don't comply.

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipL45hlwi-0[/yt]

Quebec holds spring break two weeks early.  That is why the corona virus cases doubled in Quebec last week with travelers coming back from Florida.

Well at least the border will be locked, except for commerce, when they all return.

[Kreuzritter]

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DUOxypQ8sM[/yt]

The major takeaway from this interview is that the tests beings used come back positive for multiple types of coronavirus, not just COVID-19, including those which are already at large in European populations. Can't make this up anymore.

[King Wenceslas]

https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/greater-depression-shocking-images-show-horror-americas-new-breadlines

It could never happen again..."

A quick Google search shows the horrific scenes from the 1930s as Americans lined up by the thousands for food as The Great Depression struck fast, hard, and deep...

And here is today's shocking 'breadlines' - This video shows hundreds of cars waiting to receive food from the Greater Community Food Bank in Duquesne, near Pittsburgh...

Hundreds of cars wait to receive food from the Greater Community Food Bank in Duquesne. Collection begins at noon. @PghFoodBank @PittsburghPG pic.twitter.com/94YFaO7dqX
— Andrew Rush (@andrewrush) March 30, 2020

The last two food bank giveaways drew massive crowds and caused major delays on Route 837. When they had one at Kennywood last week, it drew over 800 cars and backed up for miles.

How did America go from "greatest economy ever" to "Greater Depression" so fast? (psss. Bozo Sapiens)


The insanity of democracy. Destroying society to save a million who will die in a few years. How many people will die when we turn into Venezuela?

[Xavier]

Total Cases cross 800,000. Deaths near 40,000. Death rate stays consistently near 5%. 205 Territories infected.

[Xavier]

Theaflavin is a known inhibitor of coronavirus. Simple fact.

[Xavier]

a million who will die in a few years

Being indifferent to millions of older people, or any people, dying is not exactly pro-life. If a virus that began with a small handful in 1 country has not been able to be stopped until it has reached nearly a million in 200 countries, why on earth do you think it will stop after a million have died infected with it? It must be stopped and a cure must be administered. Social distancing is to buy time to find one. Tea may potentially have a key to the cure.

[Sempronius]

This is a critical week for Canada as the snow birds come home.  And as the spring break travelers come back.  Critical if they don't quarantine themselves for 14 days and continue with physical distancing so it doesn't end up over whelming the health care system.  I hope they realize that fines and even jail time are in place for those that don't comply.

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipL45hlwi-0[/yt]

Quebec holds spring break two weeks early.  That is why the corona virus cases doubled in Quebec last week with travelers coming back from Florida.

Well at least the border will be locked, except for commerce, when they all return.

Wow that woman on the thumbnail looked gangsta with a tatto even on her tit. This virus is coming for these death culture enablers and they deserve it.

[Heinrich]

This is a critical week for Canada as the snow birds come home.  And as the spring break travelers come back.  Critical if they don't quarantine themselves for 14 days and continue with physical distancing so it doesn't end up over whelming the health care system.  I hope they realize that fines and even jail time are in place for those that don't comply.

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipL45hlwi-0[/yt]

Quebec holds spring break two weeks early.  That is why the corona virus cases doubled in Quebec last week with travelers coming back from Florida.

Well at least the border will be locked, except for commerce, when they all return.

Wow that woman on the thumbnail looked gangsta with a tatto even on her tit. This virus is coming for these death culture enablers and they deserve it.

We all deserve it, bro. Let's not lose perspective: Luke 18:10. Pharisaical thinking is not what we need at this time. But as James said: "God's Justice is magnificent." That may be a paraphrase.

[Sempronius]

This is a critical week for Canada as the snow birds come home.  And as the spring break travelers come back.  Critical if they don't quarantine themselves for 14 days and continue with physical distancing so it doesn't end up over whelming the health care system.  I hope they realize that fines and even jail time are in place for those that don't comply.

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipL45hlwi-0[/yt]

Quebec holds spring break two weeks early.  That is why the corona virus cases doubled in Quebec last week with travelers coming back from Florida.

Well at least the border will be locked, except for commerce, when they all return.

Wow that woman on the thumbnail looked gangsta with a tatto even on her tit. This virus is coming for these death culture enablers and they deserve it.

We all deserve it, bro. Let's not lose perspective: Luke 18:10. Pharisaical thinking is not what we need at this time. But as James said: "God's Justice is magnificent." That may be a paraphrase.

Sure, but the reactions in the face of death are different. A Christian can die with serenity but for these people they will panic or be numb on their deathbed.