Neo-Con Priest - We can reasonably hope that all men are saved, no one in Hell

[Vetus Ordo]

And I'm actually a continuing Anglican, myself.  Women's ordination along with the '79 BCP were our reasons for breaking away way back when.

Ah, interesting. I didn't know that.

You're part of the TAC?

[EcceQuamBonum]

And I'm actually a continuing Anglican, myself.  Women's ordination along with the '79 BCP were our reasons for breaking away way back when.

Ah, interesting. I didn't know that.

You're part of the TAC?

I'm in the APA.  We are not, I believe, a member of the TAC, though we have some kind of relationship with the ACA (which is).

[Vetus Ordo]

And I'm actually a continuing Anglican, myself.  Women's ordination along with the '79 BCP were our reasons for breaking away way back when.

Ah, interesting. I didn't know that.

You're part of the TAC?

I'm in the APA.  We are not, I believe, a member of the TAC, though we have some kind of relationship with the ACA (which is).

Interesting.

Many in the ACA and TAC sought to cross the Tiber after the creation of the new ordinariate in 2009. How's the situation in your own church?

[EcceQuamBonum]

And I'm actually a continuing Anglican, myself.  Women's ordination along with the '79 BCP were our reasons for breaking away way back when.

Ah, interesting. I didn't know that.

You're part of the TAC?

I'm in the APA.  We are not, I believe, a member of the TAC, though we have some kind of relationship with the ACA (which is).

Interesting.

Many in the ACA and TAC sought to cross the Tiber after the creation of the new ordinariate in 2009. How's the situation in your own church?

To my knowledge, no one has made that move in our diocese.  We are very Anglo-Catholic and use the Anglican Missal.  I think the fear is that we'd end up having to use something very much like the '79 BCP if we went to the Ordinariate.  As much as I am one of that nearly-extinct tribe of the Anglo-Papalists, I've become more and more an Anglo-Sede (I may very well be the only one in the world, haha) over the past few months, so the Ordinariate would not be a satisfactory solution for me, either.  Most of the priests in the diocese are stout Anglo-Catholics, but I don't think any of them is as Rome-positive as I am.    

[Mithrandylan]

Sounds like it's time for somebody to get his arse into the Church!

[EcceQuamBonum]

Sounds like it's time for somebody to get his arse into the Church!

I know.  I spend enough time around y'all.  It'd make things easier.   

[Vetus Ordo]

And I'm actually a continuing Anglican, myself.  Women's ordination along with the '79 BCP were our reasons for breaking away way back when.

Ah, interesting. I didn't know that.

You're part of the TAC?

I'm in the APA.  We are not, I believe, a member of the TAC, though we have some kind of relationship with the ACA (which is).

Interesting.

Many in the ACA and TAC sought to cross the Tiber after the creation of the new ordinariate in 2009. How's the situation in your own church?

To my knowledge, no one has made that move in our diocese.  We are very Anglo-Catholic and use the Anglican Missal.  I think the fear is that we'd end up having to use something very much like the '79 BCP if we went to the Ordinariate.  As much as I am one of that nearly-extinct tribe of the Anglo-Papalists, I've become more and more an Anglo-Sede (I may very well be the only one in the world, haha) over the past few months, so the Ordinariate would not be a satisfactory solution for me, either.  Most of the priests in the diocese are stout Anglo-Catholics, but I don't think any of them is as Rome-positive as I am.   

Aren't there Anglo-Protestants in the APA?

In the line of Laud, Andrewes and the other Caroline divines.

[EcceQuamBonum]

And I'm actually a continuing Anglican, myself.  Women's ordination along with the '79 BCP were our reasons for breaking away way back when.

Ah, interesting. I didn't know that.

You're part of the TAC?

I'm in the APA.  We are not, I believe, a member of the TAC, though we have some kind of relationship with the ACA (which is).

Interesting.

Many in the ACA and TAC sought to cross the Tiber after the creation of the new ordinariate in 2009. How's the situation in your own church?

To my knowledge, no one has made that move in our diocese.  We are very Anglo-Catholic and use the Anglican Missal.  I think the fear is that we'd end up having to use something very much like the '79 BCP if we went to the Ordinariate.  As much as I am one of that nearly-extinct tribe of the Anglo-Papalists, I've become more and more an Anglo-Sede (I may very well be the only one in the world, haha) over the past few months, so the Ordinariate would not be a satisfactory solution for me, either.  Most of the priests in the diocese are stout Anglo-Catholics, but I don't think any of them is as Rome-positive as I am.   

Aren't there Anglo-Protestants in the APA?

In the line of Laud, Andrewes and the other Caroline divines.

Oh, I'm sure there are.  Most of the APA priests I know would self-identify as A-Cs, but I think most see themselves as inheritors of the tradition of Laud, Andrewes, Taylor, Herbert, Donne, etc., just as much as that of the Oxford Movement.  (Of course, we don't like to think that Abp. Laud was really a protestant, anyway.   )

[Vetus Ordo]

And I'm actually a continuing Anglican, myself.  Women's ordination along with the '79 BCP were our reasons for breaking away way back when.

Ah, interesting. I didn't know that.

You're part of the TAC?

I'm in the APA.  We are not, I believe, a member of the TAC, though we have some kind of relationship with the ACA (which is).

Interesting.

Many in the ACA and TAC sought to cross the Tiber after the creation of the new ordinariate in 2009. How's the situation in your own church?

To my knowledge, no one has made that move in our diocese.  We are very Anglo-Catholic and use the Anglican Missal.  I think the fear is that we'd end up having to use something very much like the '79 BCP if we went to the Ordinariate.  As much as I am one of that nearly-extinct tribe of the Anglo-Papalists, I've become more and more an Anglo-Sede (I may very well be the only one in the world, haha) over the past few months, so the Ordinariate would not be a satisfactory solution for me, either.  Most of the priests in the diocese are stout Anglo-Catholics, but I don't think any of them is as Rome-positive as I am.   

Aren't there Anglo-Protestants in the APA?

In the line of Laud, Andrewes and the other Caroline divines.

Oh, I'm sure there are.  Most of the APA priests I know would self-identify as A-Cs, but I think most see themselves as inheritors of the tradition of Laud, Andrewes, Taylor, Herbert, Donne, etc., just as much as that of the Oxford Movement.  (Of course, we don't like to think that Abp. Laud was really a protestant, anyway.   )

I don't think Laud himself would shy away from that label. The Tractarian Movement that gave birth to modern Anglo-Catholicism is a late import that sort of put a distinctive Roman veneer over the Reformed nature of the Church of England.

[EcceQuamBonum]

I don't think Laud himself would shy away from that label. The Tractarian Movement that gave birth to modern Anglo-Catholicism is a late import that sort of put a distinctive Roman veneer over the Reformed nature of the Church of England.

Or, as we'd say, recovered the Roman nature of the Church that existed before the Reformation.   

[Vetus Ordo]

I don't think Laud himself would shy away from that label. The Tractarian Movement that gave birth to modern Anglo-Catholicism is a late import that sort of put a distinctive Roman veneer over the Reformed nature of the Church of England.

Or, as we'd say, recovered the Roman nature of the Church that existed before the Reformation.   

Yes, that was the goal of the Tractarian movement.

Although, to be fair, what was deemed worthy of preservation in the English Church that existed before the Reformation was consciously preserved by the Elizabethan establishment and afterwards by the Caroline divines.

[Bonaventure]

Sounds like it's time for somebody to get his arse into the Church!

Yep.

[Penelope]

So, wait. EQB isn't... isn't Catholic? This is horrible news! EQB, what the hell are you waiting for? (See what I did there?)

[Kaesekopf]

So, wait. EQB isn't... isn't Catholic? This is horrible news! EQB, what the hell are you waiting for? (See what I did there?)

Really?  You need to keep better tabs on our members.   

[EcceQuamBonum]

So, wait. EQB isn't... isn't Catholic? This is horrible news! EQB, what the hell are you waiting for? (See what I did there?)

I know.  I know!  It is horrible news.  I'm glad I can pass for a traddie, though.   

Although, to be fair, what was deemed worthy of preservation in the English Church that existed before the Reformation was consciously preserved by the Elizabethan establishment and afterwards by the Caroline divines.

Of course, their criteria for what was "worthy for preservation" was significantly inflected by the spirit of the continental reformation, so I tend to be somewhat circumspect about their judgment.  I'm an Eamon Duffy-ite in my understanding of and approach to the English reformation, though, so I'm a bit biased.