History of the Rosary

Started by Acolyte, August 03, 2014, 12:36:48 PM

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Quote from: Non Nobis on August 03, 2014, 11:38:40 PM
The Catholic Encyclopedia says:

"The official recognition of the Ave Maria in its complete form, though foreshadowed in the words of the Catechism of the Council of Trent, as quoted at the beginning of this article, was finally given in the Roman Breviary of 1568."

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07110b.htm

Stripping the prayer officially back to its first part "to go back to antiquity (or the Bible)" sounds unwise to me.  It's a part of the "change, change, and more change" thinking of modernists.

For private use, of course it is not sinful to use only part of the prayer. But it doesn't sound very traditionalist to me.  What Hail Mary was used by the 3 shepherd children at Fatima?

I'm not advocating Bugnini's ideas here, but it seems that during the time St Dominic supposedly received the Rosary from Our Lady, only the first part was used.

As far as "traditionalist", I'm just trying to be orthodox. 8)
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Quote from: Non Nobis on August 03, 2014, 11:38:40 PM
The Catholic Encyclopedia says:

"The official recognition of the Ave Maria in its complete form, though foreshadowed in the words of the Catechism of the Council of Trent, as quoted at the beginning of this article, was finally given in the Roman Breviary of 1568."

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07110b.htm

Stripping the prayer officially back to its first part "to go back to antiquity (or the Bible)" sounds unwise to me.  It's a part of the "change, change, and more change" thinking of modernists.

For private use, of course it is not sinful to use only part of the prayer. But it doesn't sound very traditionalist to me.  What Hail Mary was used by the 3 shepherd children at Fatima?

Yeah from that same Catholic Encyclopedia article it also says "Finally, the petition "Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen." is stated by the official "Catechism of the Council of Trent" to have been framed by the Church itself."

So the 3 shepherd children at Fatima must have used the same Hail Mary that we use now, but possibly in Portuguese or Latin.
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