Started by TheReturnofLive, March 06, 2021, 08:25:15 PM
Quote from: mikemac on March 08, 2021, 04:08:20 PMIn a BBC history documentary I once heard this certain (((BBC broadcaster))), I forget his name, say that all the Irish were Anglicans before Catholic emancipation in the British Isles. I guess (((he))) never heard of or wanted to recognize the clandestine Mass Rock services that had been happening when Catholicism was outlawed.
Quote from: mikemac on March 06, 2021, 10:16:54 PMTheft of Catholic Churches and Monasteries.Outlawing the Catholic Faith for about 275 years.Hung, drawn and quartering of clandestine Catholic priests.The English monarch is the Supreme Governor of the Church (1559 - Act of Supremacy).Fines for not attending the Church of England services (1559 - Act of Uniformity).Anyone found to have persuaded someone to convert to Catholicism was guilty of treason and could be put to death (1581 - Act to retain the Queen's subjects in their due obedience).
Quote from: Edmundia on March 27, 2021, 09:54:17 AMSorry this is late.As someone who lives in England, but not English, and a Convert from Anglicanism may I comment ? There are a huge number of reasons for the persistence of Anglicanism, despite all its complications and lack of coherence. Most ordinary people are not very theologically minded and are happy with (if they are "religious") a nicely done, often beautifully done, service, which often combines: a historic and elegant building,- rooted in the community - a good choir, a well prepared service and congregational singing and participation. There is a huge variety of service and with several different anglican churches in a city ; there is a choice, ranging from the most catholic looking to the most Presbyterian looking. The Vicars are usually well educated and excellent at human relationships and "reading" people - they are not dogmatic and to use awful modern expressions they meet people where they are. When - as a traditional catholic - I have talked to anglican Vicars, male and female I have always come away with what might be described as a warm inner glow ! They are very much people persons, frequently married and with experience of the world, found at mixed religious schools and universities. Almost everything I have said about anglicanism - if you turned it around is what modern parish Catholicism is like in England : foul buildings, dreadful choirs, (if there is one at all) careless, ill prepared services, little serious interest in the seasons and badly thought out ignorant sermons, coarse and ill educated priests who are clericalists of the worst kind. In fact, if I couldn't go to Old Rite Masses and didn't believe it was all true, even after thirty years, I would be back to the Church of England within minutes. Read Rose Macaulay's THE TOWERS OF TREBIZOND , a wonderful Anglican novel of 1955, and still in print, which tells you more about High Church anglicanism than any theological text book.