Has anyone ever converted a Jew to traditional Catholicism? How can it be done?

Started by GiftOfGod, December 21, 2021, 02:14:37 PM

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GiftOfGod

Quote from: Chestertonian on December 25, 2021, 12:48:01 AM
Why assume that all Jewish people hate Christ and Christianity?[...]

Quote from: BG on December 25, 2021, 12:00:10 PM
[...]animosity to Christ, white people, or Christians, as is characteristic of the Jewish people generally.
Quote from: Maximilian on December 30, 2021, 11:15:48 AM
Quote from: Goldfinch on December 30, 2021, 10:36:10 AM
Quote from: Innocent Smith on December 30, 2021, 10:25:55 AM
If attending Mass, the ordinary form as celebrated everyday around the world be sinful, then the Church no longer exists. Period.
Rather, if the NOM were the lex credendi of the Church, then the Church would no longer exist. However, the true mass and the true sacraments still exist and will hold the candle of faith until Our Lord steps in to restore His Bride to her glory.
We could compare ourselves to the Catholics in England at the time of the Reformation. Was it sinful for them to attend Cranmer's service?
We have to remind ourselves that all the machinery of the "Church" continued in place. They had priests, bishops, churches, cathedrals. But all of them were using the new "Book of Common Prayer" instead of the Catholic Mass. Ordinary lay people could see with their own eyes an enormous entity that called itself the "Church," but did the true Church still exist in that situation? Meanwhile, in small hiding places in certain homes were a handful of true priests offering the true Mass at the risk of imprisonment, torture and death.


Jayne

Gift, do you mean to point out a difference between BG's and Chestertonian's perspectives?  There is nothing strange about that.  They are different people.
Jesus, meek and humble of heart, make my heart like unto Thine.

GiftOfGod

Quote from: Jayne on December 25, 2021, 01:48:20 PM
Gift, do you mean to point out a difference between BG's and Chestertonian's perspectives?  There is nothing strange about that.  They are different people.
Chestertonian asked a question that implied I was wrong and BG backs up what I said.
Quote from: Maximilian on December 30, 2021, 11:15:48 AM
Quote from: Goldfinch on December 30, 2021, 10:36:10 AM
Quote from: Innocent Smith on December 30, 2021, 10:25:55 AM
If attending Mass, the ordinary form as celebrated everyday around the world be sinful, then the Church no longer exists. Period.
Rather, if the NOM were the lex credendi of the Church, then the Church would no longer exist. However, the true mass and the true sacraments still exist and will hold the candle of faith until Our Lord steps in to restore His Bride to her glory.
We could compare ourselves to the Catholics in England at the time of the Reformation. Was it sinful for them to attend Cranmer's service?
We have to remind ourselves that all the machinery of the "Church" continued in place. They had priests, bishops, churches, cathedrals. But all of them were using the new "Book of Common Prayer" instead of the Catholic Mass. Ordinary lay people could see with their own eyes an enormous entity that called itself the "Church," but did the true Church still exist in that situation? Meanwhile, in small hiding places in certain homes were a handful of true priests offering the true Mass at the risk of imprisonment, torture and death.


Jayne

Quote from: GiftOfGod on December 25, 2021, 02:07:01 PM
Quote from: Jayne on December 25, 2021, 01:48:20 PM
Gift, do you mean to point out a difference between BG's and Chestertonian's perspectives?  There is nothing strange about that.  They are different people.
Chestertonian asked a question that implied I was wrong and BG backs up what I said.

Even people who come from a Jewish background can only speak of their personal experience of Jews.  I can't think of anyone in a position to make statements about all Jews.
Jesus, meek and humble of heart, make my heart like unto Thine.

TerrorDæmonum

Quote from: Jayne on December 25, 2021, 02:18:10 PM
I can't think of anyone in a position to make statements about all Jews.

"All Jews are not represented by any single individual Jewish person."

"All Jews are human beings."

Bonaventure

Quote from: GiftOfGod on December 22, 2021, 04:48:25 PM
Quote from: Maximilian on December 22, 2021, 04:44:25 PM... And to make a long story short ...
Quote from: Jayne on December 21, 2021, 02:59:32 PMI started dating my future husband, a Catholic.

So there you go, GiftofGod, if you want to know how to convert a Jew, that's how you can go about it.
No offense to Jayne but Jewish women are known for being scolds. And I've been to Jewish delis before. Most of their food is  :vomit:

It is incredible that you took the time to log in and out of two accounts to post on the same thread.

Reminds me of the movie Split with James McAvoy.

Maybe you'll download the BetterHelp app and see a therapist.
"If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me."