Any good books or resources on integralism? (Doctrine on Catholic States)

[Kaesekopf]

Fr. Fahey's books are the best on the Social Kingship of Christ.
Fr. Fahey and Abp. Lefebvre, both Holy Ghost Fathers, both studied under the great seminary professor Fr. Le Floch (who was later removed, like Cdl. Billot, during the Pius XI Action Française "purge"...).

cf. Fr. Crean, O.P.'s article critical of Vatican II's Dignitatis Humanæ

Isn't Fr Fahey also the EENS one or am I getting confused?

Feeney

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[Kaesekopf]

Fimister or Crean?

Alan Fimister. Here is a link to the article: https://catholicherald.co.uk/why-racism-is-a-heresy/

If I recall, Fimister is against the death penalty too. Regardless, I've heard nothing but good things about this new book. It contains a lot of information on the Church's role in public life.

Thanks for answering, I was distracted aha.

I have also heard good things about the book, but the level of idiocy it takes to elevate racism to a heresy makes me worry about its soundness. Oftentimes, a thing may have hidden flaw or issues that we don't realise until its too late, the "equality" rubbish in the modern age is a good example. Still, I'll consider getting it when the, much reduced in price, paperback edition is out.

I think his definition of racism dictates the accuracy of the heresy claim - however, I wouldn't necessarily disagree with him, only if he narrowed the definition of racism, though.  I think his definition of racism is too broad.  Given that he wrote for the UK audience, though, I don't blame him.

Everything else I've seen by or heard from him is pretty good, though. 

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[trentcath]

Fr. Fahey's books are the best on the Social Kingship of Christ.
Fr. Fahey and Abp. Lefebvre, both Holy Ghost Fathers, both studied under the great seminary professor Fr. Le Floch (who was later removed, like Cdl. Billot, during the Pius XI Action Française "purge"...).

cf. Fr. Crean, O.P.'s article critical of Vatican II's Dignitatis Humanæ

Isn't Fr Fahey also the EENS one or am I getting confused?

Feeney

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My bad. I'll definitely take a look at his stuff though.

[trentcath]

Fimister or Crean?

Alan Fimister. Here is a link to the article: https://catholicherald.co.uk/why-racism-is-a-heresy/

If I recall, Fimister is against the death penalty too. Regardless, I've heard nothing but good things about this new book. It contains a lot of information on the Church's role in public life.

Thanks for answering, I was distracted aha.

I have also heard good things about the book, but the level of idiocy it takes to elevate racism to a heresy makes me worry about its soundness. Oftentimes, a thing may have hidden flaw or issues that we don't realise until its too late, the "equality" rubbish in the modern age is a good example. Still, I'll consider getting it when the, much reduced in price, paperback edition is out.

I think his definition of racism dictates the accuracy of the heresy claim - however, I wouldn't necessarily disagree with him, only if he narrowed the definition of racism, though.  I think his definition of racism is too broad.  Given that he wrote for the UK audience, though, I don't blame him.

Everything else I've seen by or heard from him is pretty good, though. 

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Well, I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree then  I see no world in which claiming there is infallible teaching on racism by the Church is backed up by reality, hence why I disagree so vehemently with his claim. I also think its a concession to the modern world, "Yes, we believe only the Catholic religion should be promoted and protected by the State but, look, we aren't racist and all racists will burn in hell" 

[AidanK]

I've long struggled with why the majority of my conservative views are based on Protestant conservative authors, or American catholic's setting out a view which is broadly compatible with the enlightenment, and wondered if there was a purely catholic alternative. Recently I've come across integralism, which is allegedly based on the traditional teachings of the church, in particular the kingship of Christ, Leo XIII'S encyclicals etc... I'm aware of Fr Cahill's work, framework of the Catholic state, and I was recommended this book by Thomas Crean and Alan Fimister
https://www.amazon.ca/Integralism-Thomas-Crean-ebook/dp/B086WNJLBL but as one of the co-authors claims racism is a heresy I am not keen to read it. Consequently I was wondering if anyone knew of any alternative books or resources? I know about Chris Ferraras  work as well as this book by Brian McCall https://www.amazon.ca/Build-City-God-Catholics-Secular/dp/1621380734 but would be keen for any other books, comments if anyone has read those books etc...

I also realise given how crazy the world currently is looking at how a Christian state should be governed is bit like thinking about the number of angels that could fit on the head of a pin, but, I am an academic after all 

I strongly recommend you read up on the social theory of Distributism much written about by GK Chesterton, Hilaire Belloc et al

[truly-a-philosofan]

I have just learned about a certain booklet called Politics and Government: Catholic Principles by Cardinal Verdier, Archbishop of Paris. Unfortunately, I do not have a physical copy or a pdf copy.

[trentcath]

I have just learned about a certain booklet called Politics and Government: Catholic Principles by Cardinal Verdier, Archbishop of Paris. Unfortunately, I do not have a physical copy or a pdf copy.

Thanks!

I'm currently reading "Why Liberalism Failed" which, if not completely catholic, is very good so far!

[Geremia]

one of the co-authors claims racism is a heresy I am not keen to read it.

Racism falls under violations of the 5th commandment. "Racis*" doesn't appear anywhere in Integralism: A Manual of Poilitical Philosophy, which is a fairly good overview of Catholic political theory. It's a bit unnecessarily verbose at times, but very good sources are cited and quoted (Grenier, Ottaviani, anti-Liberal popes, St. Thomas, St. Robert Bellarmine, et al.), although here and there some post Vatican II documents are quoted.

[trentcath]

one of the co-authors claims racism is a heresy I am not keen to read it.

Racism falls under violations of the 5th commandment. "Racis*" doesn't appear anywhere in Integralism: A Manual of Poilitical Philosophy, which is a fairly good overview of Catholic political theory. It's a bit unnecessarily verbose at times, but very good sources are cited and quoted (Grenier, Ottaviani, anti-Liberal popes, St. Thomas, St. Robert Bellarmine, et al.), although here and there some post Vatican II documents are quoted.

Well, that's good to hear. I will buy it then!

Not sure how racism would fall under the 5th commandment mind...

[Geremia]

Not sure how racism would fall under the 5th commandment mind...

Racism is s a sin of hatred.

[Sin of Adam]

Not sure how racism would fall under the 5th commandment mind...

Racism is s a sin of hatred.

Define "racism."

[Geremia]

Define "racism."

Racism is the hatred of other races.

This is very different from the definition of the Modernist Novus Ordo Catechism:

[Racism is the] Unjust discrimination on the basis of a person's race; a violation of human dignity, and a sin against justice

[Justin Martyr]

Define "racism."

Racism is the hatred of other races.

This is very different from the definition of the Modernist Novus Ordo Catechism:

[Racism is the] Unjust discrimination on the basis of a person's race; a violation of human dignity, and a sin against justice

I find it funny how it said both Unjust discrimination and sin against justice in the same sentence. Its just clunky and redundant. And I still don't know what the heck "human dignity" is supposed to mean (atleast based on how modernists use it). Seems to mean whatever someone wants it to in the moment so they can twist established doctrine like a pretzel.

[Sin of Adam]

Define "racism."

Racism is the hatred of other races.

This is very different from the definition of the Modernist Novus Ordo Catechism:

[Racism is the] Unjust discrimination on the basis of a person's race; a violation of human dignity, and a sin against justice

Well said.

[Geremia]

I still don't know what the heck "human dignity" is supposed to mean (atleast based on how modernists use it).

Being created in God's image and likeness?