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Michael Wilson:
Another interesting video from "Return to Tradition" on the new Synod in Rome planned for 2023:
                                   //www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft_-DGvsCJAMy only discrepancy with the author, is that these synods are not truly consultative, but rather the results obtained are driven by the hierarchy including P.F. Towards pre-determined outcomes, in which the "consulting" is merely a cover for their own agenda.

Vetus Ordo:
"Not a valid youtube URL."

Michael Wilson:

--- Quote from: Vetus Ordo on June 10, 2021, 06:00:30 PM ---"Not a valid youtube URL."

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I forgot to copy the Y.T. Address, so when I 'pasted', I pasted from the EWTN article that I posted elsewhere.

TheReturnofLive:

--- Quote from: Michael Wilson on June 10, 2021, 05:26:46 PM ---Another interesting video from "Return to Tradition" on the new Synod in Rome planned for 2023:
                                   //www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft_-DGvsCJAMy only discrepancy with the author, is that these synods are not truly consultative, but rather the results obtained are driven by the hierarchy including P.F. Towards pre-determined outcomes, in which the "consulting" is merely a cover for their own agenda.

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When has there ever been a Council not determined by a single figure?

Vatican I was a controversial council in that day, with many historians leaving the Catholic Church altogether.

Even in the days when the Pope was under the thumb of Byzantium or the HRE, the outcomes were determined by the emperors of both. The only reason that the Council of Ephesus became the Third Ecumenical Council is because the Emperor sided with them, and the Pope signed off on it. Both the Alexandrians and Antiochians (Nestorians) held councils where they excommunicated each other, and the emperor said the Alexandrians were right. 

The Church has never been democratic on matters of dogma, doctrine, or even discipline.

Michael Wilson:
I agree with all that. But Francis is pretending to make the Church more democratic; while in reality pushing through his own personal agenda of destroying Catholicism. The true Popes didn't pretend such nonsense; they convoked Councils to condemn errors and heretics; the agenda was "Catholicism", open and above board; either get with the program or get out of the way.

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