Francis the Exorcist

[poche]

Maybe it was what he referred to as couragous prayer.
Pope Francis encouraged bold prayer and faithful trust in God during his homily at Mass today at Casa Santa Marta in the Vatican.



http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/courageous-prayer-leads-to-miracles-pope-reflects/

[Gerard]

"He took as models the prayer of Abraham, "who struggled with the Lord" to save Sodom and Gomorrah,..."

And How did that work out for him?

Is that really the appropriate model?  Bargaining with God only to find out the hard way that God was right and the city deserved to be decimated?

[poche]

Rome's most well known exorcist says Pope Francis performed an exorcism in St. Peter's Square last Sunday and that the man was possessed because of Mexico's abortion law.

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/famous-exorcist-says-popes-simple-prayer-cast-out-demon/

[LouisIX]

Rome's most well known exorcist says Pope Francis performed an exorcism in St. Peter's Square last Sunday and that the man was possessed because of Mexico's abortion law.

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/famous-exorcist-says-popes-simple-prayer-cast-out-demon/

"'The Pope, in good faith, got close to him and performed an exorcism on him in the form of a liberation prayer, not like the classical exorcism that one does with a book,' said Father Gabriele Amorth in a May 22 evening interview with CNA."

Just as a few of us had suspected.

[Jacafamala]

It looked like a type of charasmatic "healing prayer" or it could have been a show.  In any case it wasn't an exorcism. 

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/vatican-spokesman-denies-pope-conducted-exorcism/?utm_content=buffer10186&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer&utm_source=buffer

Vatican City, May 21, 2013 / 04:31 am (CNA/EWTN News).- Pope Francis did not perform an exorcism when he prayed over a young disabled man in St. Peter's Square on Pentecost Sunday, according to the Vatican's spokesman.

"The Pope had no intention of doing an exorcism, so it is absolutely false that this has been done. He simply prayed for the sick person," Vatican press office director Father Federico Lombardi told CNA May 21.

The idea that Pope Francis performed an exorcism was fueled by a video posted online by channel TV2000, which is overseen by the Italian bishops' conference.

In the video, which is a preview of the May 24 episode of "Vade Retro" ("Go Back" in Latin), a young man is presented to the Pope by Legionary Father Juan Rivas.

What he said to the pontiff is unknown, but the Pope seemed to become serious and began praying over the young man in a wheelchair, placing both his hands on his head.

As the Pope prayed, what sounds like a growl can be heard coming from the young man as he opened his mouth and recoiled downward in his chair.

The Pope's security detail can be seen hovering in the background, and one of them comes in to quickly take a letter from the Fr. Rivas, before the Pope passes on the next person.

"As usual, the Pope had many patients and many people in difficulty presented to him, and the Pope always prays intensely for them," Fr. Lombardi said about the encounter.

It would appear the Vatican press may have made a little boo-boo. Perhaps they're afraid of having Papa look too medieval or archaic or something? I dunno.

"Nothing unusual going here..move along, move along."

[Mithrandylan]

A liberation prayer? 

As I said before:

It looks more like Francis is putting something in him rather than taking something out of him.

[Irenaeus G. Saintonge]

Rome's most well known exorcist says Pope Francis performed an exorcism in St. Peter's Square last Sunday and that the man was possessed because of Mexico's abortion law.

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/famous-exorcist-says-popes-simple-prayer-cast-out-demon/

"'The Pope, in good faith, got close to him and performed an exorcism on him in the form of a liberation prayer, not like the classical exorcism that one does with a book,' said Father Gabriele Amorth in a May 22 evening interview with CNA."

Just as a few of us had suspected.

I was a bit confused with my terminology. Based on reading I have done in the past, I had assumed that we do not technically call those exorcisms, but rather something along the lines of "deliverance prayers" (essentially leaving exorcisms as either the major exorcism which we are familiar with, and the minor exorcism of baptism), though Fr. Amorth seems inclined to classify it as a sort of minor exorcism.
It does seem to make sense that a minor exorcism might be performed outside of the rite of baptism.
At the same time, there are occasionally translation issues with Fr. Amorth. Perhaps what he refers to as exorcism in Italian we have distinct terminology for in English.

[LouisIX]

Rome's most well known exorcist says Pope Francis performed an exorcism in St. Peter's Square last Sunday and that the man was possessed because of Mexico's abortion law.

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/famous-exorcist-says-popes-simple-prayer-cast-out-demon/

"'The Pope, in good faith, got close to him and performed an exorcism on him in the form of a liberation prayer, not like the classical exorcism that one does with a book,' said Father Gabriele Amorth in a May 22 evening interview with CNA."

Just as a few of us had suspected.

I was a bit confused with my terminology. Based on reading I have done in the past, I had assumed that we do not technically call those exorcisms, but rather something along the lines of "deliverance prayers" (essentially leaving exorcisms as either the major exorcism which we are familiar with, and the minor exorcism of baptism), though Fr. Amorth seems inclined to classify it as a sort of minor exorcism.
It does seem to make sense that a minor exorcism might be performed outside of the rite of baptism.
At the same time, there are occasionally translation issues with Fr. Amorth. Perhaps what he refers to as exorcism in Italian we have distinct terminology for in English.

I suspect that he simply means "exorcism" in the most generic sense, which would be any prayer which attempts to deal with the demonic.  Consider the exorcism prayers at the back of the '62 Missal.  But none of these are THE rite of exorcism which we normally associate with the word "exorcism" and which can only be performed by a priest or bishop.

[Archer]

Rome's most well known exorcist says Pope Francis performed an exorcism in St. Peter's Square last Sunday and that the man was possessed because of Mexico's abortion law.

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/famous-exorcist-says-popes-simple-prayer-cast-out-demon/

"'The Pope, in good faith, got close to him and performed an exorcism on him in the form of a liberation prayer, not like the classical exorcism that one does with a book,' said Father Gabriele Amorth in a May 22 evening interview with CNA."

Just as a few of us had suspected.

I was a bit confused with my terminology. Based on reading I have done in the past, I had assumed that we do not technically call those exorcisms, but rather something along the lines of "deliverance prayers" (essentially leaving exorcisms as either the major exorcism which we are familiar with, and the minor exorcism of baptism), though Fr. Amorth seems inclined to classify it as a sort of minor exorcism.
It does seem to make sense that a minor exorcism might be performed outside of the rite of baptism.
At the same time, there are occasionally translation issues with Fr. Amorth. Perhaps what he refers to as exorcism in Italian we have distinct terminology for in English.

I suspect that he simply means "exorcism" in the most generic sense, which would be any prayer which attempts to deal with the demonic.  Consider the exorcism prayers at the back of the '62 Missal.  But none of these are THE rite of exorcism which we normally associate with the word "exorcism" and which can only be performed by a priest or bishop.

I think this is a logical explanation. 

[Irenaeus G. Saintonge]

Agreed. It has been a valuable learning experience for me.
I wish we heard much more of Fr. Amorth as well. He is certainly one of the 'good guys', in my opinion.

[voxxpopulisuxx]

It looks to me that the man who seems to have cerebal palsy or similer is just reacting in the odd (to our eyes)  way folks with those afflictions react to unexpected or unusual stimuli...like someone  especially a stranger (or maybe the man know this is the pope) pressing their hands against their forehead
consider this reaction: if taken out of context all kinds of weird things could be asserted.....just sayin
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWE7lN0XY-4[/yt]