Would you rather...?

[Michael Wilson]

Baylee,
clearly they were joking back and forth at our (sedes) expense; I was going to do the same back at them, but it came out sounding too snarky. Don't get in a huff and leave, just take it for what it is worth.

[Bonaventure]

Baylee,
clearly they were joking back and forth at our (sedes) expense; I was going to do the same back at them, but it came out sounding too snarky. Don't get in a huff and leave, just take it for what it is worth.

Some do not have the thick skin needed for fora life.

I also would not lump you in with someone like the poster known as "Baylee."

When someone like Käsekopf went to a Diocesan seminary, I recall that you asked him how it was.

You did not immediately opine how he would have been invalidly ordained, etc.

That is the difference.

[Baylee]

Baylee,
clearly they were joking back and forth at our (sedes) expense; I was going to do the same back at them, but it came out sounding too snarky. Don't get in a huff and leave, just take it for what it is worth.

Some do not have the thick skin needed for fora life.

Oh, I've got plenty thick skin otherwise I would not have challenged you a number of times in the past few weeks.  I choose to walk away.   

I refuse to worry that my comments are too much for others to handle.  It seems that you coddle those who don't have thick skin and can't possibly deal with my strong opinions on certain matters. Despite them and contrary to your assertion, I have striven to be charitable.  You, on the other hand, do not strive to do so. Hypocrite.

[Bonaventure]

Baylee,
clearly they were joking back and forth at our (sedes) expense; I was going to do the same back at them, but it came out sounding too snarky. Don't get in a huff and leave, just take it for what it is worth.

Some do not have the thick skin needed for fora life.

Oh, I've got plenty thick skin otherwise I would not have challenged you a number of times in the past few weeks.  I choose to walk away.   

I refuse to worry that my comments are too much for others to handle.  It seems that you coddle those who don't have thick skin and can't possibly deal with my strong opinions on certain matters. Despite them and contrary to your assertion, I have striven to be charitable.  You, on the other hand, do not strive to do so. Hypocrite.

Those who huff and puff "I'm leaving" usually don't tend to do so.

The issue has never been your strong opinions. It has been your posting of them all over your forum.

As @Kaesekopf remarked, there's more to life than sedevacantism. Maybe not for you, though.

[Baylee]

Baylee,
clearly they were joking back and forth at our (sedes) expense; I was going to do the same back at them, but it came out sounding too snarky. Don't get in a huff and leave, just take it for what it is worth.

Some do not have the thick skin needed for fora life.

Oh, I've got plenty thick skin otherwise I would not have challenged you a number of times in the past few weeks.  I choose to walk away.   

I refuse to worry that my comments are too much for others to handle.  It seems that you coddle those who don't have thick skin and can't possibly deal with my strong opinions on certain matters. Despite them and contrary to your assertion, I have striven to be charitable.  You, on the other hand, do not strive to do so. Hypocrite.

Those who huff and puff "I'm leaving" usually don't tend to do so.

The issue has never been your strong opinions. It has been your posting of them all over your forum.

As @Kaesekopf remarked, there's more to life than sedevacantism. Maybe not for you, though.

"All over the forum". I'd love to see the evidence. 

[Bonaventure]

Baylee,
clearly they were joking back and forth at our (sedes) expense; I was going to do the same back at them, but it came out sounding too snarky. Don't get in a huff and leave, just take it for what it is worth.

Some do not have the thick skin needed for fora life.

Oh, I've got plenty thick skin otherwise I would not have challenged you a number of times in the past few weeks.  I choose to walk away.   

I refuse to worry that my comments are too much for others to handle.  It seems that you coddle those who don't have thick skin and can't possibly deal with my strong opinions on certain matters. Despite them and contrary to your assertion, I have striven to be charitable.  You, on the other hand, do not strive to do so. Hypocrite.

Those who huff and puff "I'm leaving" usually don't tend to do so.

The issue has never been your strong opinions. It has been your posting of them all over your forum.

As @Kaesekopf remarked, there's more to life than sedevacantism. Maybe not for you, though.

I've written plenty of posts not related to Sedevacantism.

Baylee,
clearly they were joking back and forth at our (sedes) expense; I was going to do the same back at them, but it came out sounding too snarky. Don't get in a huff and leave, just take it for what it is worth.

Some do not have the thick skin needed for fora life.

Oh, I've got plenty thick skin otherwise I would not have challenged you a number of times in the past few weeks.  I choose to walk away.   

I refuse to worry that my comments are too much for others to handle.  It seems that you coddle those who don't have thick skin and can't possibly deal with my strong opinions on certain matters. Despite them and contrary to your assertion, I have striven to be charitable.  You, on the other hand, do not strive to do so. Hypocrite.

Those who huff and puff "I'm leaving" usually don't tend to do so.

The issue has never been your strong opinions. It has been your posting of them all over your forum.

As @Kaesekopf remarked, there's more to life than sedevacantism. Maybe not for you, though.

"All over the forum". I'd love to see the evidence.   

I've already given the examples.

I called you out and you said "I'm leaving."

That appears to be false.

[Baylee]

Baylee,
clearly they were joking back and forth at our (sedes) expense; I was going to do the same back at them, but it came out sounding too snarky. Don't get in a huff and leave, just take it for what it is worth.

Some do not have the thick skin needed for fora life.

Oh, I've got plenty thick skin otherwise I would not have challenged you a number of times in the past few weeks.  I choose to walk away.   

I refuse to worry that my comments are too much for others to handle.  It seems that you coddle those who don't have thick skin and can't possibly deal with my strong opinions on certain matters. Despite them and contrary to your assertion, I have striven to be charitable.  You, on the other hand, do not strive to do so. Hypocrite.

Those who huff and puff "I'm leaving" usually don't tend to do so.

The issue has never been your strong opinions. It has been your posting of them all over your forum.

As @Kaesekopf remarked, there's more to life than sedevacantism. Maybe not for you, though.

I've written plenty of posts not related to Sedevacantism.

Baylee,
clearly they were joking back and forth at our (sedes) expense; I was going to do the same back at them, but it came out sounding too snarky. Don't get in a huff and leave, just take it for what it is worth.

Some do not have the thick skin needed for fora life.

Oh, I've got plenty thick skin otherwise I would not have challenged you a number of times in the past few weeks.  I choose to walk away.   

I refuse to worry that my comments are too much for others to handle.  It seems that you coddle those who don't have thick skin and can't possibly deal with my strong opinions on certain matters. Despite them and contrary to your assertion, I have striven to be charitable.  You, on the other hand, do not strive to do so. Hypocrite.

Those who huff and puff "I'm leaving" usually don't tend to do so.

The issue has never been your strong opinions. It has been your posting of them all over your forum.

As @Kaesekopf remarked, there's more to life than sedevacantism. Maybe not for you, though.

"All over the forum". I'd love to see the evidence.   

I've already given the examples.

I called you out and you said "I'm leaving."

That appears to be false.

I will leave when I decide I'm done. 

"examples"? Plural?    I saw one (which was written respectfully).  That doesn't constitute "all over the forum".  Basically, your comment that I do this "all over the forum" is a lie.  Plain and simple.

The truth is you don't like what I've been writing about a lot of things lately (i.e. not just my sede posts) and you (and K) chose to mock it. So charitable of you.     

[Bonaventure]

I will leave when I decide I'm done.

Ah, so you have no other place to go!

If this place were so intolerable, and I were as uncharitable, rude, and childish as you've claimed, your continued participation here would make you...what was that word you used to describe me...a "hypocrite!"

Last I checked, CathInfo is taking new members. You could always go there, and tell @MatthewCI that his recognize and resist position is aligned with enemies of the Church.

Let's see how long you'd last.

I'd give it...two days.

Otherwise, your continued participation here only weakens your claims.

[Baylee]

Baylee,
clearly they were joking back and forth at our (sedes) expense; I was going to do the same back at them, but it came out sounding too snarky. Don't get in a huff and leave, just take it for what it is worth.

Sorry MW. This wasn't just a friendly joking around. Clearly, I'm not the kind of sede welcome here. I'm not willing to keep my mouth shut nor to accept rude comments from anyone no matter their position on the forum just to keep the peace.  This was brewing for me for a while now.

Things like the opinion that the NO Rites is invalid is basically a forbidden topic because it offends those who are not thick-skinned around here.  It's just not in the forum rules. If they were honest, they would add it to the forum rules.

[awkward customer]

I am not going to stand by and allow one invited into our virtual "house" or "coffee shop" to proceed to call all of my guests who are non-sede as having a position aligned with non-Catholics/enemies of the Church, or to constantly tell people who go to their local parish that all of their sacraments are invalid. It would be bad hospitality on my part, if nothing else.

But Baylee doesn't post her Sede views all over the forum. She just doesn't.  You've given one example.

And I understand that you and KK want Sedism to stay in its own sub-forum because you don't want to put people off SD. But you can both be a bit cavalier at times not to mention upsettingly rude, although that could be because of my own thin skin.

Politeness for the sake of keeping the peace can have its drawbacks though, you must admit.   

[Bonaventure]

Politeness for the sake of keeping the peace can have its drawbacks though, you must admit.   

2 or 3 posts were made in jest, and Baylee said that this place was intolerable, that the owner and I are childish and rude, and that this would be a farewell from the forum.

There have been no moderation sanctions, such as bans, or even formal warnings given.

I can, in jest, post what others do unironically, no?

People often huff and puff, and say they will leave, sometimes add a little uncharitable spice, but end up not doing so.

I've seen that take place more than once.

The Forum Owner and I usually are quite lax and laissez faire with most moderation.

People have said many things to me, such as it being a good thing that my wife miscarried, or a variety of other phraseology, and they have not been banned.

It is no different in this case.

[queen.saints]

I voted 'Other', a non-woke country with continuous access to the traditional sacraments.

Good choice.

[queen.saints]

The difference between the Catholic Church and all other groups, no matter how much they resemble the Catholic Church in doctrine or discipline, is that there is only one divine institution here on earth that is God's instrument for the salvation of mankind. The Catholic Church isn't the "best" among a group of similar institutions, but the only one of its kind: The Mystical Body of Christ.
The present crisis in the Church has caused many Catholics to lose sight of the fact, that just as during the Passion, our Lord's divine nature was obscured, so that it appeared that His enemies had triumphed over Him by killing Him; so in our present day, the divine nature of His Mystical Body is so obscured by the present crisis of the Church, that many have lost sight of this, and begin to see the Church just as "another" good group, but not as "The" Church.

Beautifully put and so true.

Just as we know that God never asks anything of us that isn't in our own very best interests and will make us not only the happiest we could ever be, but happy at all. Everything else will make us miserable, not just a little less happy.

And when He told us that there is only the One True Church that can bring us to Heaven, it was not because every other option would work a little less well, it was because every other option would not work at all and would lead to Hell.

[Michael Wilson]

Sorry MW. This wasn't just a friendly joking around. Clearly, I'm not the kind of sede welcome here. I'm not willing to keep my mouth shut nor to accept rude comments from anyone no matter their position on the forum just to keep the peace.  This was brewing for me for a while now.

Things like the opinion that the NO Rites is invalid is basically a forbidden topic because it offends those who are not thick-skinned around here.  It's just not in the forum rules. If they were honest, they would add it to the forum rules.

It is welcome on the sede thread; do you think we can post such remarks on most non-sed forums (C.I. excepted) forums?
Also, Bonaventure more or less agrees with the sed position; so he is basically engaging in self deprecating humor.
You are welcome here because the only person that has threatened to ban you (so to speak) is yourself.
Cool off for a couple of days, and see if you don't see things differently and don't leave.

[josh987654321]

You are welcome here because the only person that has threatened to ban you (so to speak) is yourself.
 
Cool off for a couple of days, and see if you don't see things differently and don't leave.

x2, while I'm not a Sede in the same sense, I'm what they'd call a Benevecantist, since Pope Benedict XVI has passed away now, I'm officially a Sede, although it's probably the wrong word for it because it's rather different from what is considered a Sede given that I recognise those as Pope John Paul II as completely valid Popes.

In any case, I've been on forums where just bringing such topics up got me banned, so this forum is very good in this regard and very different from so many others out there, thus here is really the only place I know where honest and meaningful discussions on such topics can take place, and of course, if ones positions don't face criticism how can you be sure they are true? blocking yourself off from all criticism provides a false sense of security IMO.

I also don't think those who acknowledge Francis have invalid sacraments either, anymore than during the time of Anti-Popes after Boniface VIII that those who followed various Anti-Popes had invalid sacraments, I think their sacraments were legit and that it was simply a dispute of the Papacy and today heresies, which so far have not changed the Sacraments, if Bergoglio changes the words of consecration for example, then I will call it invalid, but until then I simply believe him to be a usurper trying to lead the faithful astray.

Communion in the hands for example was a very bad development, it's so bad precisely because it's a valid sacrament and it's so open to sacrilege, disbelief and irreverence, if it were invalid then communion on the hands would be meaningless.

God Bless