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[LausTibiChriste]

The thing is Jayne, if anyone else had written the op, I wouldn't have paid any heed but yet again the queen bee is at it again, its always you...always.

Thanks for admitting that there is not actually anything wrong with the content with my posts and you are writing out of personal animosity.

(I suspect your end goal is to become moderator, hmmm where in history have we seen behaviour like this before, someone starts trouble all the time, brings in heavies to cause up a storm and then suggests the solution to get to the top!!!)

And again, since I am not actually doing anything wrong, you make up things about my motives to justify your negative feelings toward me.  Stop accusing me of these things that you imagine about me.  For one thing, it is fundamentally dishonest.

This is not a thread about getting any specific people banned.  It is about this forum's need to have it's rules enforced.

Here's an idea:

**** off./b]

I don't care who you are, talking to a lady like this is never right. Laus, I respect you a lot from what I have seen of your posting, but damn has my respect for you gone down with this post. Swearing amongst men is fine; in fact if I tell someone to 'f' off it likely means they're a good friend of mine. But in front of ladies? Never. And directed at a lady? You should be ashamed of yourself man.

Edited for a typo; it's late and I've been drinking vodka 😛

You are right. Posts have been edited

[GiftOfGod]

Yes, A Good Moderator would be an Asset to this Forum. I would Nominate Mikemac, if he has the time to do it. ChairmanJoe would be great also. Heinrich as well. So many Great Members. So many Great Contributors. Christe Eleison, Christina, Diaduit, and so many others.

[diaduit]

Yes, A Good Moderator would be an Asset to this Forum. I would Nominate Mikemac, if he has the time to do it. ChairmanJoe would be great also. Heinrich as well. So many Great Members. So many Great Contributors. Christe Eleison, Christina, Diaduit, and so many others.

I Love this Forum. I don't want it to be destroyed, as some may want it to be. Let there be Good Moderation, and let there be Open and Free Discussion about the Very Important Worldwide Battles we Traditional Roman Catholics are facing everywhere including in the Church.

In Jesus and Mary,
Nishant Xavier.

I actually agree with this and would happily take correction from some of the betters especially the men.  I am fully aware I need moderation from time to time and that is why I have apologised at times to different posters.

One of the reasons I don't post here that often is that this place has gotten even more conspiracy minded, anti Jewish and white nationalist.  I'm not down with that.

There is nothing wrong with being anti-Jewish. We are called to be as Catholic, just as we are called to be anti-Muslim and anti-Protestant. Yes, there is a little extra official animus against Jews because they rejected, killed, and continue to reject their Messiah, Jesus Christ.

Being anti-Jewish in the sense of criticizing the Jewish religion is a good thing.  One of the most problematic ideas in the post-conciliar Church is the wide-spread idea that Jews are saved by being Jews and do not need to accept Christ.  And the abandonment of supersessionism is seriously disturbing.  We ought to be talking about these things. (edit to add) And talking about the relationship of Jews to leftist ideology may also be useful.

But being anti-Jewish in the sense of attacking Catholics for having Jewish blood is contrary to Church teaching.

I am not attacking your jewish blood, I am attacking your obvious jewish tactics.  You are using peoples decent catholic sensibilities to navigate a position of moderator....typical jewish tactics.  If Mikemac started this thread, I know it comes from a place of honesty and he can have a problem with my posting style, I would take it on board.
IF I'm going to be banned I might as well defend my position which is, anyone can moderate me and I welcome friendly criticism but you Jayne are motivated not from honesty but from desire for self promotion, self adulation and you are not honest.

Ches, I don't have to understand Jews, I don't have to be nice, its not a conspiracy theory that they own all the banks, all the media, all of hollywood and turns out big pharma.  I just listened to Maria Farmer talking to independent journalist Whitney Webb and talking about how the jew Epstein and jew Maxwell after raping her repeatedly talked about non jews in a despicable way and how they actually truly believe they are better than the goy so while I have no issue with next door neighbour jews of which there are not many, I still keep my distance.

[Jayne]

At no point
in my Jewish upbringing did II  hear any rabbi teaching that Jesus is in hell.  That's not tto ssay that no Jews believe it anymore but it's very uncommon.  Jayners can let us know if she grew up with that belief.

I never even heard of that belief until I started reading trad forums.  I was from a far less observant family than yours.  I never read the Talmud at all and neither did the adults.  When I was a girl I was told that Jesus was a good man and a good teacher, but Christians made up that He was the Son of God.  Obviously they were wrong about the last bit. 

My mom is now seriously discerning becoming Catholic, and we both consider it a foundation to be built upon because when you know better you do better.   Considering the state of the church today I have a hard time seeing how anyone would convert, so for my mom to inquire about baptism is just pure grace from God.

What a blessing for you!  I wish that my parents had become Catholic before they died.  That has been the hardest thing about dealing with their deaths.

[Jayne]

I would be highly suspicious of anyone who suggests censoring, moderating or banning the less than Catholic forum members or ones who don't behave to a standard.

Firstly, who sets that standard? 

This forum has a very good set of rules.  For years, they set the standard for the forum.  When there was a situation not covered by the rules, the moderation team would discuss it among themselves and make a decision. 

I am not calling for any specific members to be banned.  I think that the knowledge that there was active moderation with the potential for being banned would, in itself, solve a lot of the problem.

[LausTibiChriste]

I would be highly suspicious of anyone who suggests censoring, moderating or banning the less than Catholic forum members or ones who don't behave to a standard.

Firstly, who sets that standard? 

This forum has a very good set of rules.  For years, they set the standard for the forum.  When there was a situation not covered by the rules, the moderation team would discuss it among themselves and make a decision. 

I am not calling for any specific members to be banned.  I think that the knowledge that there was active moderation with the potential for being banned would, in itself, solve a lot of the problem.

It's no secret you want to be a mod (how uncanny for der Juden) - so, go start your own forum. You'll have all the power you could ever want over there. Stop shitting on KK's work.

[Jayne]

But being anti-Jewish in the sense of attacking Catholics for having Jewish blood is contrary to Church teaching.

I am not attacking your jewish blood, I am attacking your obvious jewish tactics.

When you said that I could not help being sneaky because it was in my blood, that was an attack on me for having Jewish blood.  And so are your repeated attempts to tie your dislike of me to the fact that I have Jewish ancestry.  I get that we disagree on many things.  That is how forums work.  But, rather than discuss ideas, you keep making personal attacks.

You are using peoples decent catholic sensibilities to navigate a position of moderator....typical jewish tactics.  If Mikemac started this thread, I know it comes from a place of honesty and he can have a problem with my posting style, I would take it on board.
IF I'm going to be banned I might as well defend my position which is, anyone can moderate me and I welcome friendly criticism but you Jayne are motivated not from honesty but from desire for self promotion, self adulation and you are not honest.

There is no evidence for any of these things that you make up about my motives.  This is merely how you justify your dislike of me to yourself.  You actually agree with my main point in starting this thread, but because it is me writing it, you are fabricating these bad motives so you can object to it.  This is not right.

I have not said anything about banning you and, in fact, do not want you to be banned.  You are an asset to the forum.  You take your faith seriously and are constantly striving to grow.  You are good at receiving correction, but have a tendency to get a bit carried away when there isn't a moderator around to give it.

I think that most people behave better when there is active moderation and I include myself in that.  Having been here from the beginning, I can see how much of a difference it makes.  Currently the forum is, to a large extent,  not following its founding vision and not fulfilling its intended purpose.  I think that restoring moderation would go a long way toward fixing this.

Like you, I could see mikemac being a good moderator for us, although I would prefer to see him as part of a moderation team.  Nevertheless, as he said, even one moderator would be an improvement.  If we were to resume moderation, I think we all should start with a clean slate and start enforcing the rules from that point on.

For the record, I am not proposing myself as a moderator.  I have misgivings about women being moderators in general and me as a moderator in particular.  I know that I am not suited for the role.  I probably understand this better than anyone else here.  So please stop treating this thread as if I were staging a coup.

[MaximGun]

I am not calling for any specific members to be banned.

Neither did Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn or YouTube until they had a stranglehold on power.  Then they banned, censored, disappeared and shadow-banned their political opponents and even people who questioned their banning decisions.  One would be pretty dumb to reveal their future intentions if they sought power.  The man who says who he would ban before he becomes moderator is at least someone who can be held to account later.

Takes enormous self-control and an ability to not see yourself as having a greater insight or superior intellect to others to moderate fairly and judiciously.  The problem with the tech titans is that they believe that their woke secular humanism technocracy is superior to the Christian morality that built the world and the very universities they dropped out of.  They on the other hand have built nothing other than websites.  They have contributed nothing to the world.

They think that people who find homosexuality disgusting are simply backward and peasant-like and bigoted.  They find a more nuanced interpretation, like people who justify adulterous people receiving communion, or mass in the vernacular being more accessible.  They get a moral and intellectual pride out of taking the side of perverts and miscreants and since they have the power to censor and ban their decisions are never examined.  Control the medium and you control the message.

Haven't we all just seen that with the vaccine?  A medical moderator who is unelected and whom you have never heard of before has had the power to lock you down, fire you from your job, stop your freedom to travel and ultimately force you to be injected with an experimental medicine.

Anyone who repeatedly posts about the need for better moderation should be viewed with suspicion unless that person has a perfect history themselves of posts displaying their Catholicity.  There are plenty of very good posters here who appear happy with the status quo and don't complain about the odd 4 letter word or angry outburst.

[Jayne]

There are plenty of very good posters here who appear happy with the status quo and don't complain about the odd 4 letter word or angry outburst.

I have added a poll to this thread to get a sense of what proportion of posters are happy with the status quo.

Of course, those who were the most unhappy may have left already and the poll will not give information about that.

[diaduit]

'In your blood' is a figure of speech where I come from.  If I were to be nit picky I probably could see where I am attacking your blood line by saying it is in your dna and I'm not sure I have a problem with what I said.  Blood lines count, just look at King David or Cain and Abel.

Jayne, I wish you well but fight your inner jew and leave the forum suggestions to others.  Be happy with just being a member who posts interesting stuff.

[GiftOfGod]

Haven't we all just seen that with the vaccine?  A medical moderator who is unelected and whom you have never heard of before has had the power to lock you down, fire you from your job, stop your freedom to travel and ultimately force you to be injected with an experimental medicine.

None of us here live in a dictatorship (except Laus, maybe - no offense intended). All of the public health people (whatever their titles) are accountable to elected politicians. If the populous didn't want that, the politicians would sense that and restrict or fire the public health people. We've seen it in places like Texas and Florida. Politicians only fear getting voted-out.

If you make the "medical moderator" an elected position, I guarantee you nothing would change. It's a tough pill to swallow (a so-called "blackpill") but most people are A-OK with what you described.

[MaximGun]

History of Traditional Catholic Forums.

Angelqueen - Closed down because the guy who ran it got fed up with running it and the time committment.

Fisheaters - Quis and Tracy were found to be in an adulterous relationship, Laura happened, then a giant row happened because of a transexual lawyer, Impy.  That gave rise to this place.

Cathinfo - Still going and full of resistance members.  Which is good.  Birds of a feather...

Pro-boards, never left the runway because the guy who ran it was too domineering and made it his personal fiefdom.

I cannot think of any Traditional Catholic forum that fell apart due to anger and bad-language.  Not one.  Because the people who contribute the best value to a forum are never snowflakes.  They can always simply ignore the posters they don't like and let their ideas do the talking.

I think you are finding problems where they don't exist.

[diaduit]

I voted other.  I am not against moderation, I am against you Jayne having any hand act or part in it either directly or through a likeminded friend such as Insanis or others, and if it leads to you becoming moderator then hand the forum a noose.

[Jayne]

I voted other.  I am not against moderation, I am against you Jayne having any hand act or part in it either directly or through a likeminded friend such as Insanis or others, and if it leads to you becoming moderator then hand the forum a noose.

I suppose that since you have made up your mind (for no good reason) that I am dishonest, you don't believe me when I say that I have no wish to moderate this forum either directly or indirectly.

It is difficult to communicate with a person who places what she imagines about me over what I actually say.

[diaduit]

I voted other.  I am not against moderation, I am against you Jayne having any hand act or part in it either directly or through a likeminded friend such as Insanis or others, and if it leads to you becoming moderator then hand the forum a noose.

I suppose that since you have made up your mind (for no good reason) that I am dishonest, you don't believe me when I say that I have no wish to moderate this forum either directly or indirectly.

It is difficult to communicate with a person who places what she imagines about me over what I actually say.

Fine, we will leave it at that.