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[there is nothing wrong at all about it. As a matter of fact, it's going to become necessary at some point,]

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General Catholic Discussion / Re: There will never be a reck...

Last post by Gardener - Today at 09:20:13 PM

If we ever indeed do start decreasing in population, there is nothing wrong at all about it. As a matter of fact, it's going to become necessary at some point, unless we totally change the way we live, and I don't see that happening.

Yes, there is something wrong with "decreasing the population."
1. God told us to increase and multiply.
2. Who do you plan to eliminate in order to decrease the population?
3. What do you think about the current popularity of
murdering babies in the womb,
sexually mutilating children who will never be able to have children,
stealth euthanasia in which some "hospice" centers practice mercy killing by withholding food and water and over-dosing morphine (with no saline in the IV)?

You're really going off the rails on me. All I did was post real demographic facts. To repeat, I said the U.S. has almost twice as many people in my life, and over twice as many Catholics in the world. The world itself has over twice as many people in it overall.

In this modern age, our transportation and lifestyle infrastructure has drastically deprived the natural world which God created, we are in a major extinction of species, because of the way we live and our population growth because population growth at this scale cannot continue indefinitely due to the fact that this world God gave us is limited in its size and especially its habitable land. We are charged by God to be good stewards of His creation. Why do I even have to post this?

The divine instruction to go forth and multiply was given to TWO PEOPLE in Genesis 1:28. Putting the flood aside for a minute (which I do believe in), the fact today is there are 8.23 Billion people. They sure did multiply.

Another point I attempted to make was that corporations, banks, governments, militaries, they desire an increasing population for their own selfish reasons. Just like they desire to hurt these when against their chosen enemies. Of course there are cases when it is a just aim, however, in most cases this perceived crisis is only due to the reliance on most non-Catholic economic systems and models which demand usury and "growth" by monetary debasement which is designed to increase the astronomical wealth disparity and strip away sovereignty from all but the elite class. If the population hits a hiccup or stagnates long-term, there is a deflationary pressure, and that deflation goes against all their desires, which is why our people's money has devalued by over 99% in the last 100 years.

I might also remind you that as a Catholic you or anyone else should not be thinking in terms of "White" demographics, because the populations of Catholic non-Whites is increasing. The reason is that they either live in countries where families are affordable, or they go on welfare, while the White populations do live in countries that are NOT affordable and tend to eschew welfare. The years when large famliies were produced were extremely different times than today for a huge number of reasons too large to post about, but everything posted above applies to that situation, when there was 10-20% of the current population, and before the modern age with all its transportation and infrastructure forever changed our world.

I'm going to stop because I made enough points. I'm not even going to address the accusations you made against me which were merely red herrings and actually quite offensive. I just don't think it's a crisis of lack of people, or lack of Catholics. Other topics begin in other threads.

Did the check from Soros clear after he died?

I most certainly will think in terms of "white" demographics. I don't give a crap about religion as a demographic. I'm not an Italian or Nigerian Catholic. I'm white. And I always will be. I'd never let my family be subjected to mere religion when culture is everything.

San Antonio... you probably smell like fabulosa cleaner and domestic violence.

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General Catholic Discussion / Re: NRSV cannot be sold anymor...

Last post by Gardener - Today at 08:53:42 PM

You're a weirdo. Just do what you want. You're far too into the idea of being approved. Get over it.

[and marry another]

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Traditional Catholic Discussion / Re: Trad Rules for Life Threat...

Last post by Gardener - Today at 08:46:46 PM

Am I understanding correctly that it is not a sin to divorce if the reason for requesting the divorce is one listed by the church, but the sin is REMARRIAGE?

And he saith to them: Whosoever shall put away his wife and marry another, committeth adultery against her   12 And if the wife shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.

Remarrying is the mortal sin of adultery.  It can not be fixed with confession since there is no purpose of amendment.

Getting divorced MAY come under the sin of disobedience.  If it is part of a separation under the guidance of a priest, it is never sinful.  In other cases a Catholic should consult a priest.

Just pawn off your life and eternity for some retarded homeschooler who went to Winona or Denton and voila! Instant feel good about bad decisions.

They don't even agree about the damn liturgical year: 62! 55! 48! and people trust these fags with their life and eternity?

lol.

Just go Orthodox.

This shit is stupid. At least the East has history on its side. Rome is literally gay and ahistorical.

But my priest said!!!

Your priest is probably a fag. Let's be honest...

#4

General Catholic Discussion / Re: Daily Catholic quiz.

Last post by drummerboy - Today at 07:51:25 PM

https://novenaprayer.com/2024/02/21/who-was-the-first-christian-martyr/

10/10 

#5

General Catholic Discussion / Re: Daily Catholic quiz.

Last post by drummerboy - Today at 07:50:14 PM

5/5 

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Traditional Catholic Discussion / Re: Trad Rules for Life Threat...

Last post by Kathleen_Marie - Today at 06:51:36 PM

This is becoming clearer and clearer. Thank you @Michael Wilson and @james03

I really want to understand the exact teachings of the church.

[there is nothing wrong at all about it. As a matter of fact, it's going to become necessary at some point,]

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General Catholic Discussion / Re: There will never be a reck...

Last post by TradGranny - Today at 06:34:28 PM

If we ever indeed do start decreasing in population, there is nothing wrong at all about it. As a matter of fact, it's going to become necessary at some point, unless we totally change the way we live, and I don't see that happening.

Yes, there is something wrong with "decreasing the population."
1. God told us to increase and multiply.
2. Who do you plan to eliminate in order to decrease the population?
3. What do you think about the current popularity of
murdering babies in the womb,
sexually mutilating children who will never be able to have children,
stealth euthanasia in which some "hospice" centers practice mercy killing by withholding food and water and over-dosing morphine (with no saline in the IV)?

You're really going off the rails on me. All I did was post real demographic facts. To repeat, I said the U.S. has almost twice as many people in my life, and over twice as many Catholics in the world. The world itself has over twice as many people in it overall.

. . . population growth at this scale cannot continue indefinitely due to the fact that this world God gave us is limited in its size and especially its habitable land. We are charged by God to be good stewards of His creation.

The divine instruction to go forth and multiply was given to TWO PEOPLE in Genesis 1:28. Putting the flood aside for a minute (which I do believe in), the fact today is there are 8.23 Billion people. They sure did multiply.

. . . I might also remind you that as a Catholic you or anyone else should not be thinking in terms of "White" demographics, because the populations of Catholic non-Whites is increasing. 

. . . I'm going to stop because I made enough points. I'm not even going to address the accusations you made against me which were merely red herrings and actually quite offensive. I just don't think it's a crisis of lack of people, or lack of Catholics. Other topics begin in other threads.

Accusation? I made no accusation of any kind. I simply quoted you:
You said:

If we ever indeed do start decreasing in population, there is nothing wrong at all about it. As a matter of fact, it's going to become necessary at some point

Instead of responding, you went off on a rant that had nothing to do with my quoting you.

If anyone made a false accuation, it was you who said "I might also remind you that as a Catholic you or anyone else should not be thinking in terms of "White" demographics" when I have never said anything of the kind. Calm down.

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General Catholic Discussion / Re: Daily Catholic quiz.

Last post by Acolyte - Today at 06:33:40 PM

https://novenaprayer.com/2024/02/21/who-was-the-first-christian-martyr/

Got 9/10 on that one. The Weeping prophet got me.

#9

General Catholic Discussion / Re: Don't Kneel ?

Last post by Kathleen_Marie - Today at 06:30:54 PM

Wow! Thanks for sharing @Acolyte

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General Catholic Discussion / Re: NRSV cannot be sold anymor...

Last post by Kathleen_Marie - Today at 06:26:43 PM

Thank you for the link @Gardener !! I did not know that audio Bible existed. But right now, I am sticking even more faithfully to transalations that are not copyrighted. Every time I see another translation pulled this aggressively, I become even more leary of modern translations @KreKre than you for reminding me to be more grateful. I have been complaining about the small font of my DRV and missal and forgot what a priviledge that it is to have what I have.