Lucifer and His Crown

[Baroux]

It seems Lucifer fell.

Did his name change? I wonder about the crown that he lost. Somewhere in the Summa Theologiae it mentions crowns and the taking of an fallen entity's crown. Swapping it to someone else and the like.

The problem lies in: did Lucifer's crown get swapped to someone else? Perhaps St. Michael maybe. It's said his name was changed to "Satan" instead of retaining his previous name. Would the individual who acquired his crown acquire the meaning of his name, "The morning star"?

[Michael Wilson]

When the Scriptures speak of some saint's "crown", it is a metaphor for the beatific vision.
Lucifer never saw God, as he failed in the test to obtain the beatific vision.
The places destined in Heaven for the fallen angels will be filled up by the saints.
Lucifer's name was changed to Satan.

[Acolyte]

When the Scriptures speak of some saint's "crown", it is a metaphor for the beatific vision.
Lucifer never saw God, as he failed in the test to obtain the beatific vision.
The places destined in Heaven for the fallen angels will be filled up by the saints.
Lucifer's name was changed to Satan.

Correct Michael,

"I answer that, Man's essential reward, which is his beatitude, consists in the perfect union of the soul with God, inasmuch as it enjoys God perfectly as seen and loved perfectly. Now this reward is called a "crown" or "aurea" metaphorically, both with reference to merit which is gained by a kind of conflict—since "the life of man upon earth is a warfare" (Job 7:1)—and with reference to the reward whereby in a way man is made a participator of the Godhead, and consequently endowed with regal power: "Thou hast made us to our God a kingdom," etc. (Apocalypse 5:10); for a crown is the proper sign of regal power."

https://www.newadvent.org/summa/5096.htm#article1

[Baroux]

My concern is that my own identity seems at large mysterious... and it bothers me. I was clearly taught that my fellow comrades and I are human my whole life. But I keep getting nagging ideas that I might be something not human. I read a lot of the Summa Theologiae and the Baltimore Catechism no. 3. These seem to imply angels are sometimes bound to an Earthly body, and are apparent to everyone and eat and drink "spirit meat and drink."

[Acolyte]

My concern is that my own identity seems at large mysterious... and it bothers me. I was clearly taught that my fellow comrades and I are human my whole life. But I keep getting nagging ideas that I might be something not human. I read a lot of the Summa Theologiae and the Baltimore Catechism no. 3. These seem to imply angels are sometimes bound to an Earthly body, and are apparent to everyone and eat and drink "spirit meat and drink."

You should read Fr Chad Ripperger's book Dominion. It contains everything concerning angelology, demonology, and spiritual warfare.

But don't use the book to self diagnose. Talk to a priest concerning demonic oppression, obsession, or possession in regards to yourself. (If you suspect it)

[Bonaventure]

My concern is that my own identity seems at large mysterious... and it bothers me. I was clearly taught that my fellow comrades and I are human my whole life. But I keep getting nagging ideas that I might be something not human. I read a lot of the Summa Theologiae and the Baltimore Catechism no. 3. These seem to imply angels are sometimes bound to an Earthly body, and are apparent to everyone and eat and drink "spirit meat and drink."

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[Stubborn]

Although she does not mention anything about Lucifer's crown, the private revelation of Venerable Mary of Agreda (1602-1665) tells a story of the creation of the angels, as well as heaven, hell purgatory and limbo, the battle with St. Michael, the fall of Lucifer and his angels etc., whether true or not (I like to think it is true), has always fascinated me. From (pdf attached) The Mystical City of God, Book One:

"82.Of the earth Moses says, that it was void, which he does not say of the heavens; for God had created the angels at the instant indicated by the word of Moses: "God said : Let there be light, and light was made."
He speaks here not only of material light, but also of the intellectual or angelic lights. He does not make express mention of them, but merely includes them in this word, on account of the proclivity of the Hebrews to attribute Divinity to new things, even of much greater inferiority than the angels. But the metaphor of light was very appropriate to signify the angelic nature and mystically, the light of their science and grace, with which they were endowed at their creation.
God created the earth conjointly with the heavens, in order to call into existence hell in its center; for, at the instant of its creation, there were left in the interior of that globe spacious and wide cavities, suitable for hell, purgatory and limbo. And in hell was created..."

[Bonaventure]

Locking.