Campaign Thread

[mikemac]

Lin Wood at the 'Stop the Steal' rally in Georgia a couple of days ago.

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep1yCTpMJvc[/yt]

The above video does not show Lin Wood saying to not vote in the Senate runoff.  A video on this page does.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/trumpist-lawyers-tell-georgia-republicans-205301955.html

If you want to listen to what Sydney Powell said at the 'Stop the Steal' rally in Atlanta it starts at about 12 minutes into this video.

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS0zgIsfyZM[/yt]

Michael Flynn Wants Trump To Declare Martial Law And Redo The Election

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/michael-flynn-martial-law-new-election-192704689.html

[TradGranny]

Who knew that Barr was the pro bono defense for the FBI sniper who shot a mom in the head holding her baby, and shot baby's brother on the back and the family dog?  I sure didn't.  (Ruby Ridge Idaho 1992)

These Swamp Creatures have been in place for decades.

That is disgusting. Evidently Trump has plants on his team.

[GiftOfGod]

Who knew that Barr was the pro bono defense for the FBI sniper who shot a mom in the head holding her baby, and shot baby's brother on the back and the family dog?  I sure didn't.  (Ruby Ridge Idaho 1992)

These Swamp Creatures have been in place for decades.

That is disgusting. Evidently Trump has plants on his team.

Plants? Come on, this wasn't secret. This was disclosed when he as nominated. The blame lands at Trump's feet, for he is the one who hired and can fire Barr.

[james03]

I have to agree with GoG part way here.  Trump hired a bunch of deep swamp critters.  Mike Cernovich had a falling out with Trump about a month after his election (over Flynn).  He pointed out that all the MAGA people were left out in the cold and Ivanka and (((Jarrod))) were running the show.  Bannon also was extremely ticked at Jivanka.

Trump's weakness was Ivanka sadly.  And it cost him sorely. 

We don't know what Barr and Durham will do.  From what we do know, it doesn't look good.  We'll know in a few weeks conclusively.  Said my battle rosary already today, I hope everyone else is joining in.  Until inauguration day, I expect a miracle.

[John Lamb]

Edit: Sorry, posted this in wrong thread. Moved here.

[Xavier]

President Trump has been great. I will continue to pray for him. Article from Epoch Times:

"President Donald Trump's multilayered effort to challenge the results of the election is expected to culminate on Jan. 6, 2021, when the Electoral College vote count will almost surely be challenged by a group of Republican lawmakers who vow to block electors from seven states where allegations of voter fraud and misconduct have been raised.

The Republican presidential electors in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico cast procedural votes for Trump on Dec. 14, creating dual slates of electors in Congress for the first time since 1960. This year, only the Democratic electors' votes in the seven states come affirmed with certificates of ascertainment signed by state authorities and are on display on the website of the National Archives.

The president and several third parties are pursuing legal challenges in six of the seven states, including several cases pending in the U.S. Supreme Court. The lawsuits allege that millions of votes—enough to alter the outcome of the 2020 presidential race—were illegally cast, processed, or counted. Actions by the courts in any of the cases over the next two weeks would impact how the electors from the disputed states are counted during the joint session of Congress.

Rule as they may, the courts can't dictate how each member of Congress should vote. Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.), the first congressman to say he will lodge a challenge when the votes are counted, told The Epoch Times that it's up to individual citizens to demand that their representatives take a stand and support the challenges.

"The only thing that will get the congressmen and senators to do what is right for our country on this issue of voter fraud and election theft is active participation by American citizens who want honest and accurate elections. Now, can American citizens actively participate? Very simply, they have to call their congressmen and their senators and demand that they support this effort to protect our election system from fraud and illegal conduct," Brooks told The Epoch Times on Dec. 21.

"And the way in which our congressmen and senators do that is by rejecting the Electoral College votes of those states who have such badly flawed election systems as to render the reported election results unreliable and inaccurate."

President Donald Trump turned up the heat on the event by calling on his supporters to descend on Washington on Jan. 6 for a protest.

"Be there, will be wild!" he wrote on Twitter.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has acknowledged former Vice President Joe Biden as the president-elect amid standing legal challenges by President Donald Trump to the results of the elections in the seven states.

McConnell also has urged Republican senators to not join in on the challenge, arguing that it will create harmful optics for the party. To the lawmakers who plan to stand up for Trump, the opposite is true.

Trump: Republican Senators Should Object to Electoral College Votes

"To me, it's a bad look for the party not to step up at this point in time. To me, Donald Trump has transformed the Republican Party," Rep.-elect Barry Moore (R-Ala.) told The Epoch Times. "So many of us have campaigned on his coattails in the past and now he needs us and it's time to step up. ... We have got to make sure that 75 million Americans don't feel like their vote doesn't count anymore."

Brooks said: "What is important is how the vote looks in the United States of America. The issue is going to be very simple. Are members of the U.S. House of Representatives and U.S. Senate going to support or acquiesce to voter fraud and election theft or are they going to fight it, bearing in mind that our election system is the underpinning of our republic? If you do not have an honest and accurate election system, you have no Republic."

Several House Republicans have joined Brooks in saying they'll challenge the electoral votes, including Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) and four representatives-elect who will begin their terms on Jan. 3, 2021: Moore, Bob Good (R-Va.), Madison Cawthorn (R-N.C.), and Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.). Brooks said there are more than enough House members on board to challenge each of the seven disputed states.

One member of the House and one senator are required to lodge a challenge; no senators have committed to joining the challenge.

Five senators, including Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Sen.-elect Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.), have indicated they are open to joining the challenge.

"The issue is not whether there will be a senator who will join this effort on the Senate side. The issue is how many are going to join us," Brooks said.

"We have a rapidly growing group of House Members and Senators," Taylor Greene wrote on Twitter Monday after attending a White House meeting concerning the electoral vote, adding that the "Jan 6 challenge is on."

Electoral College

Presidential candidates in the United States win elections by winning the most electoral votes.

The Electoral College system apportions a certain number of votes to each state. When voters in a state vote for a party's candidate, they're actually casting a vote for that party's slate of electors, or people elected to cast electoral votes.

Those electoral votes are counted by Congress. If a candidate gets 270 or more, they win the presidency.

Dueling Electors

Dueling electors are highly unusual, but they have happened in U.S. history. The last time was in 1960, when the governor of Hawaii certified electors for Republican Richard Nixon. Democratic electors cast their votes for Democrat John F. Kennedy.

A subsequent recount determined Kennedy actually won the state, and he was declared the winner in the joint session in 1961.

John Eastman, professor of law at the Chapman University School of Law, pointed to the Kennedy–Nixon scenario when talking about the seven states with dueling electors this time. Eastman is the attorney representing Trump in a Supreme Court appeal over the administration of the election in Pennsylvania.

"We have historical precedent here, and in each of these states, there is pending litigation challenging the results of the election. If that litigation proved successful, then the Trump electors, having met and voted, would be able to have those votes certified and be the ones properly counted in the joint session of Congress on January 6," Eastman told NTD Television.

Gary Gregg II, director of the McConnell Center at the University of Louisville, told The Epoch Times that short of "actual evidence of fraud" that would move Congress to certify the alternate set of electors, the ones certified by the state's governors—all for Biden, in this case—will be the ones counted.

The electoral votes have been "officially counted" and the votes have been sent on, he said. "There's nothing to be done, until it gets to Congress," he said.

"It's obviously a very, very long shot," added Robert Hardaway, a professor at the Sturm College of Law at the University of Denver, because "all the challenges have not been successful by both Trump and his supporters.

"But that's the reason for it," he told The Epoch Times. "If later, it's determined the Republican slate should have been elected, they'll have the vote already in place."

In three of the seven states in question—Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin—Republicans currently control the state legislatures while Democrats hold the governor's mansions. In New Mexico and Nevada, Democrats control both. In Georgia and Arizona, Republicans control both.

Republicans haven't been able to gain enough support to get the dueling electors certified by the top election official—usually the secretary of state—nor have the state legislatures exercised their constitutional right to take back the power to choose which slate of electors is the valid one.

According to the Congressional Research Service, when dueling slates are received, members of Congress in the joint session consider the list when it's from a different state authority than the certified list, and conduct a vote. Acceptance of either slate would then require a concurrent agreement in both the House and the Senate.

If there isn't a conflict in terms of state authority, the one determined to be appointed pursuant to the state's election laws is counted. If there is no determination by a state authority of which slate was lawfully appointed, the two chambers agree concurrently to accept the votes of one set, or decide not to accept either set. If the two chambers don't agree, the electors certified by the governor shall be counted.

Joint Session

With electors having cast their votes, attention turns to the next month's joint session of Congress, which takes place just three days after newly elected members of Congress are sworn in.

Challenges were made by Democrats in 2016 but failed because no senators supported them. In 2004, Rep. Stephanie Tubb Jones (D-Ohio) and Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) objected to votes from Ohio, but both chambers rejected the objection.

The basis for an objection appears to be that the electoral vote or votes weren't "regularly given" by an elector and/or that the elector was not "lawfully certified," based on state election laws, according to the Congressional Research Service.

If an objection meets the requirements, the joint session is suspended, and each chamber withdraws to meet and debate the objection and choose whether to vote to uphold it. Unless both chambers vote in the majority for the objection, it fails. If it's approved, it nullifies the state's electoral votes and could lead to the alternate slate being accepted.

Some experts see an objection succeeding as practically impossible.

"It's so far out of the realm of possibility," Gregg said. "The chance of getting a senator to agree, a Republican senator to agree, is a difficulty. Then to get the Senate and the House to agree? At this point ... this is not going to happen."

Alan Dershowitz, a constitutional law scholar, told NTD Television via email, "Both chambers will not approve objections."

Others aren't so sure.

"I think when you get to the joint session of Congress, there's going to be a fight about which of the slates of electors need to be counted, based on the evidence and the statutory violations that are presented at the time," Eastman said.

As of the currently certified vote count, Biden has 306 electoral votes to Trump's 232. Trump hasn't conceded, and The Epoch Times won't declare a winneruntil all legal challenges are resolved."

[King Wenceslas]

Who knew that Barr was the pro bono defense for the FBI sniper who shot a mom in the head holding her baby, and shot baby's brother on the back and the family dog?  I sure didn't.  (Ruby Ridge Idaho 1992)

These Swamp Creatures have been in place for decades.

That is disgusting. Evidently Trump has plants on his team.

That is why Trump and Trumpsters could be more powerful out of power. As Biden rules he will make mistakes and more than likely big mistakes. A concerted in your face activism on the streets by MAGA will weaken the hold of the Blue deep state hegemony over the US; inside the government and outside the government. As federal debt goes from 27.5 trillion to over 35 trillion in the next few years and the US dollar becoming worthless paper and with no sign of relief for the American worker; the left and right might see that their real enemy is the deep state (Federal Reserve, cronies, billionaires, Federal bureaucracy, professional politicians, bankers, etc.) At that point in time the real terror comes to the US. No election will be able to stop a great reset at that point. Blood will flow in copious amounts in the American streets. Gates et al. might have to flee for their lives. No walls will be high enough. Religious hucksters will be cast aside like used Kleenex (yes, that means you US "Catholic" bishops).

A second term for Trump would not solve anything. Just four more years of what occurred in the last four years. Deep state plotting against him with Judases surrounding him.

[OzarkCatholic]

Sad to see him capitulating to the marxist paychecks...

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-calls-congress-change-relief-bill-add-2000-stimulus-checks-1556824

[christulsa]

President Trump is the greatest president in the history of the USA.  He is also one of the greatest world leaders in the history of the world.  He will be studied for generations to come.

[GiftOfGod]

President Trump is the greatest president in the history of the USA.  He is also one of the greatest world leaders in the history of the world.

I think you've had a few too many Shiner Bock. There are many other Presidents who united the country better and took the country down greener pastures. Trump had the energy but not the will (as evidenced by his lackluster achievements when compared to his promises). He will be lumped together with all the other f-up Presidents from G.W. Bush to Joe Biden who presided over non-stop massive deficit spending, endless war, and a crumbling America being slow-motion raped and pillaged by low IQ immigrants. But hey, at least we moved the Embassy to Israel! At least the billionaires got their taxes lowered!

And one of the greatest world leaders in history? I think that a world leader would need to lead the world in order to even rank. George H.W. Bush building to the coalition in the Gulf War; Reagan being forceful against Communism; Nixon opening China to the West; FDR for winning WWII, pushing for the Bretton Woods agreement, and opening the KSA to relations with the US; Teddy Roosevelt for largely kicking Europe out of the Americas and for negotiating peace between the Russians and Japanese, etc. How has Trump held a candle to any of that?

[james03]

Warren Harding was the greatest President.  He understood America.

[christulsa]

President Trump is the greatest president in the history of the USA.  He is also one of the greatest world leaders in the history of the world.

I think you've had a few too many Shiner Bock. There are many other Presidents who united the country better and took the country down greener pastures. Trump had the energy but not the will (as evidenced by his lackluster achievements when compared to his promises). He will be lumped together with all the other f-up Presidents from G.W. Bush to Joe Biden who presided over non-stop massive deficit spending, endless war, and a crumbling America being slow-motion raped and pillaged by low IQ immigrants. But hey, at least we moved the Embassy to Israel! At least the billionaires got their taxes lowered!

And one of the greatest world leaders in history? I think that a world leader would need to lead the world in order to even rank. George H.W. Bush building to the coalition in the Gulf War; Reagan being forceful against Communism; Nixon opening China to the West; FDR for winning WWII, pushing for the Bretton Woods agreement, and opening the KSA to relations with the US; Teddy Roosevelt for largely kicking Europe out of the Americas and for negotiating peace between the Russians and Japanese, etc. How has Trump held a candle to any of that?

I'm going to make you a hot chocolate, spiked with Jameson, with a candy cane sticking out.  When you've finished your drink, I will give you the very long list of Nobel Prize-worthy accomplishments President Trump has accomplished, how one man united Christian, conservative America, the true America, and all freedom-loving, truth seekers around the world, how this man's magnanimity and resilience in the face of constant persecution makes him stand out among all presidents, and most world leaders, and how God clearly chose him, despite his flaws, to lead the fight against the NWO and globalism.  Trump is a voice against cynicism, discouragement, and despair, in essence the spirit of his detractors.  His continuing message, whatever goes down next month, is that of hope.  When Communism takes over the Country and World, we will still have the likes of Donald Trump to unite us against the Enemy.  No matter what happens, the Trumper, pro-freedom, populist movement here in the US will continue the fight.  As will Trump.

[OzarkCatholic]

I'm going to make you a hot chocolate, spiked with Jameson, with a candy cane sticking out.  When you've finished your drink, I will give you the very long list of Nobel Prize-worthy accomplishments President Trump has accomplished, how one man united Christian, conservative America, the true America, and all freedom-loving, truth seekers around the world, how this man's magnanimity and resilience in the face of constant persecution makes him stand out among all presidents, and most world leaders, and how God clearly chose him, despite his flaws, to lead the fight against the NWO and globalism.  Trump is a voice against cynicism, discouragement, and despair, in essence the spirit of his detractors.  His continuing message, whatever goes down next month, is that of hope.  When Communism takes over the Country and World, we will still have the likes of Donald Trump to unite us against the Enemy.  No matter what happens, the Trumper, pro-freedom, populist movement here in the US will continue the fight.  As will Trump.

I would like to see this long list of accomplishments...

And I would like to know how the 'true' America that you espoouse has supposed legitimacy in this neomasonic nation, where not only a simple majority supports Joe, but also according to the electoral college, an electoral college majority as well. What criterion demonstrably and objectively identifies 'true America' vs false America, and how can this be show to be unbiased? And I know the counter quickly can be that 'the electoral college, the reported popular vote numbers... are not unbiased", but in the face of a lack of evidence otherwise, what is one to believe is true?

Face it, America is lost. It was lost before Trump, with him, and will continue to be when he is out of office in January.

[christulsa]

I would like to see this long list of accomplishments...

Here is one master list of his accomplishments for starters, click on each sub-article to read all the accomplishments in each category.

https://www.conservapedia.com/Donald_Trump_achievements

And I would like to know how the 'true' America that you espoouse has supposed legitimacy in this neomasonic nation, where not only a simple majority supports Joe, but also according to the electoral college, an electoral college majority as well.

What remains of the "true" America, for better or worse, won't have legitimacy in the eyes of the federal government anymore, IF the electoral college approves of the fraud/Chinese Communist interference/takeover.  We'll know by Jan. 20th if we have effectively two nations in opposition, but we don't need legitimacy by the majority (if the libs really have a majority) to be the true America.

What criterion demonstrably and objectively identifies 'true America' vs false America, and how can this be show to be unbiased? And I know the counter quickly can be that 'the electoral college, the reported popular vote numbers... are not unbiased", but in the face of a lack of evidence otherwise, what is one to believe is true?

Common beliefs, values, political philosophy, language, customs define a nation state.   In the "true" America, the common view is that of a Christian society, that protects the Church, the family, and the right to life.  One that upholds the Constitution and the Bill of Rights as sacred.
That tends to break down what remains of America (with all its Protestant and modernistic flaws) to be the South, the central plains states, and the Rocky mountain states.  The East and West coast are no longer America.

Face it, America is lost. It was lost before Trump, with him, and will continue to be when he is out of office in January.

True, it looks like the "USA" has been lost, in terms of the Republic united by central government.  But the Republic can continue in a new Union.  And not one person on Earth, except for God, gets to declare America condemned beyond saving as a nation.  It is the duty of every Catholic, as part of their good works to save their soul, until their last dying breath, to always be patriotic and supportive of their nation, even if that nation seems lost.  That means always rebuilding and when necessary fighting.  It means refusing to give into cowardice and despair, no matter how dark it seems, but to carry on with courage and hope.  And right now the heroic example of this is President Donald Trump.

Merry Christmas.

[GiftOfGod]

Here is one master list of his accomplishments for starters, click on each sub-article to read all the accomplishments in each category.

https://www.conservapedia.com/Donald_Trump_achievements

Where are the "Nobel Prize-worthy accomplishments"?