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Has an anti-pope ever spoken in the magisterium?
« on: September 12, 2021, 06:22:38 PM »
Has an anti-pope ever spoken in the magisterium? Should we obey an anti-pope?
 

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Re: Has an anti-pope ever spoken in the magisterium?
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2021, 07:16:25 PM »
I don't know, but I googled your question and the entire first page were links to articles about Pope Francis.

What did google mean by this?
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Re: Has an anti-pope ever spoken in the magisterium?
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2021, 08:30:38 PM »
Has an anti-pope ever spoken in the magisterium? Should we obey an anti-pope?

It's not really possible.

If an antipope asserted some truth that eventually was confirmed by a true Pope, then that truth is still true, but we could not say that it issued from the magisterial authority when the antipope asserted it.
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Re: Has an anti-pope ever spoken in the magisterium?
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2021, 10:14:48 AM »
Has an anti-pope ever spoken in the magisterium? Should we obey an anti-pope?
By definition, an "anti-Pope" is a man uncanonically elected, claims that he is the Pope and even takes on the duties of the Papacy.
So we cannot obey him, as he has no right to rule over us or give us commands; also if any anti-Pope ever taught anything, it would not be truly "magisterium", since "Magisterium" means "authority to teach"; which obviously any anti-Pope would not possess.
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Re: Has an anti-pope ever spoken in the magisterium?
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2021, 07:24:22 PM »
Anti-Pope Hippolytus (c. 170c. 235 AD) of Rome died a martyr and saint, and if the speculations on him are true, he provided an early rite of ordination and consecration, plus a bodies of writings on scripture with did fed into Teaching. Now what is his work and what isn't, is not wholly clear, but Hippolytus seems the closest to an anti-Pope contributing to the Magisterium, for a portion of his writings can be seen as advocating the position of Greeks in Rome over others, and could have created as anti-Pope, but is not clear.
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