Goodbye

Started by dellery, June 05, 2022, 03:53:19 AM

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The Curt Jester

Quote from: Julio on December 18, 2022, 04:39:06 PM
^^I think virtual friends is okay at least on the basis of the concept and idea that the forum members share like the subjects on Catholicism. I agree with the rest of those that you stated.

Yes.  But the fact you have to add "virtual" means it's something entirely different.
The royal feast was done; the King
Sought some new sport to banish care,
And to his jester cried: "Sir Fool,
Kneel now, and make for us a prayer!"

The jester doffed his cap and bells,
And stood the mocking court before;
They could not see the bitter smile
Behind the painted grin he wore.

He bowed his head, and bent his knee
Upon the Monarch's silken stool;
His pleading voice arose: "O Lord,
Be merciful to me, a fool!"

The Curt Jester

Quote from: Prayerful on December 18, 2022, 04:57:41 PM
People who at least interface via video chat or online games with voice chat can very much become real friends. Some marriages have even resulted from online gaming and also enduring friendships when people meet.

When they  meet in person?  I agree. You can find people online who later become personal friends, but it's because you meet them.  I met my wife via an online platform, but I wouldn't have chosen to marry her without interacting with her in person for a significant amount of time.  A forum, a website, a chat room, or a phone can be a method used to meet people, but if that's ALL there is, then you've still not met the real person.
The royal feast was done; the King
Sought some new sport to banish care,
And to his jester cried: "Sir Fool,
Kneel now, and make for us a prayer!"

The jester doffed his cap and bells,
And stood the mocking court before;
They could not see the bitter smile
Behind the painted grin he wore.

He bowed his head, and bent his knee
Upon the Monarch's silken stool;
His pleading voice arose: "O Lord,
Be merciful to me, a fool!"

Polymath

Quote from: Heinrich on December 18, 2022, 11:56:51 AMI wouldnt notice one bit if you left. Actually, with iinsults like this, I would be quite satisfied. Go eat your fish and chips with your Henry.8 buds.

They're certainly a much better influence on me.  That fact should give you an attack of conscience, not make you want to lash out at me.

Polymath

Quote from: The Curt Jester on December 18, 2022, 02:12:43 PM
Quote from: Polymath on December 18, 2022, 09:58:30 AMI have 3 Anglican friends (not related to me or each other), and they're better Catholics than most of the people on here.

Emphasis mine.

This is a good example of why people need to take a step back and realize that interaction on a forum is not like interaction in person.  From reading posts on this forum, you don't know enough about people to be able to make that claim.  It's just hyperbole to make your point.  Most people here don't even post that often.  You're making an assumption based on a few posters posting quite frequently.

This is why online people who have never met in person cannot be friends.  You don't know them, they don't know you, and you really can't say that much about them.

In general, all this is true.  But more and more, I'm seeing that such behavior is the logical conclusion of traditionalism, and that's why I've been questioning it.  Somehow, we think we, not the Church, are the keepers of the truth.  Yes, there are problems in how the Church hierarchy handles just about everything.  But we're not trying to solve them by following the way of prayer, humility, and the Cross like the Saints, but by following the way of rebellion like Martin Luther.  The result is a bunch of prima donnas who demand that the Church conform to their desires, just like liberals.  I don't want to be like that, and neither should anyone else, but traditionalism has certainly contributed to my being like that.

So, maybe this is goodbye, I don't know.  Still working a lot of things out,

The Curt Jester

Quote from: Polymath on December 18, 2022, 05:59:28 PM
In general, all this is true.  But more and more, I'm seeing that such behavior is the logical conclusion of traditionalism, and that's why I've been questioning it.  Somehow, we think we, not the Church, are the keepers of the truth.  Yes, there are problems in how the Church hierarchy handles just about everything.  But we're not trying to solve them by following the way of prayer, humility, and the Cross like the Saints, but by following the way of rebellion like Martin Luther.  The result is a bunch of prima donnas who demand that the Church conform to their desires, just like liberals.  I don't want to be like that, and neither should anyone else, but traditionalism has certainly contributed to my being like that.

Regardless of what a general trend may or may not be, you don't have the information to make the blanket statement you made earlier.  That puts you in the position of saying who is and who is not a good Catholic.  Do you really want to put yourself on that pedestal after what you said about Trads?
The royal feast was done; the King
Sought some new sport to banish care,
And to his jester cried: "Sir Fool,
Kneel now, and make for us a prayer!"

The jester doffed his cap and bells,
And stood the mocking court before;
They could not see the bitter smile
Behind the painted grin he wore.

He bowed his head, and bent his knee
Upon the Monarch's silken stool;
His pleading voice arose: "O Lord,
Be merciful to me, a fool!"

Heinrich

Quote from: Polymath on December 18, 2022, 05:22:39 PM
Quote from: Heinrich on December 18, 2022, 11:56:51 AMI wouldnt notice one bit if you left. Actually, with iinsults like this, I would be quite satisfied. Go eat your fish and chips with your Henry.8 buds.

They're certainly a much better influence on me.  That fact should give you an attack of conscience, not make you want to lash out at me.

I would hope so. We dont even know one another. And to promote non Catholic ,,yeoman" contra Catholics on a Catholic forum reveals a questionable character. I have met a good number of the men here and consider them friends and role models. I take it personally when some itinerant and Victorian leaning poster disputes their piety and charitable bone fides.
Schaff Recht mir Gott und führe meine Sache gegen ein unheiliges Volk . . .   .                          
Lex Orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi.
"Die Welt sucht nach Ehre, Ansehen, Reichtum, Vergnügen; die Heiligen aber suchen Demütigung, Verachtung, Armut, Abtötung und Buße." --Ausschnitt von der Geschichte des Lebens St. Bennos.

Jmartyr

Anglicans that are better Catholics is a completely ridiculous statement.
"If anyone is excommunicated it is not I, but the excommunicators." - Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre
" A false church cannot have a true mission." - St. Francis De Sales
" The way is open for us to deprive councils of their authority, contradict their acts freely, and profess confidently, whatever SEEMS to be true. " - Martin Luther

Bonaventure

Quote from: Heinrich on December 18, 2022, 07:00:11 PM
Quote from: Polymath on December 18, 2022, 05:22:39 PM
Quote from: Heinrich on December 18, 2022, 11:56:51 AMI wouldnt notice one bit if you left. Actually, with iinsults like this, I would be quite satisfied. Go eat your fish and chips with your Henry.8 buds.

They're certainly a much better influence on me.  That fact should give you an attack of conscience, not make you want to lash out at me.

I would hope so. We dont even know one another. And to promote non Catholic ,,yeoman" contra Catholics on a Catholic forum reveals a questionable character. I have met a good number of the men here and consider them friends and role models. I take it personally when some itinerant and Victorian leaning poster disputes their piety and charitable bone fides.

I wouldn't mind him. He threw a hissy fit and displayed some of the feminine traits he was so quick to condemn, because some other posters and I criticized a man whining about "why can't I get da gurls". Said whiner talked about being fat, struggling with porn, living at home at nearly 40 years old, and feeling a sense of "responsibility  to his healthy, non-bedridden or severely I'll mother, who was already living with another man she had remarried.
"If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me."

Bonaventure

"If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me."