Started by Xavier, May 24, 2022, 10:34:12 AM
Quote from: Xavier on May 25, 2022, 12:13:22 AMHi James.James, I oppose unjust wars of aggression, like Iraq etc. But I feel Russia is the unjust aggressor here.
Quote from: Kaesekopf on May 25, 2022, 11:59:11 AMQuote from: Xavier on May 25, 2022, 12:13:22 AMHi James.James, I oppose unjust wars of aggression, like Iraq etc. But I feel Russia is the unjust aggressor here. Where were you when Ukraine was shelling in Donbas and killing thousands of civilians?
Quote from: Xavier on May 25, 2022, 10:48:03 AMAgreed, Dellery.And if we look at Abortion Statistics in Russia Today, we see at best that there's a long way to go; Russia still has, even now, one of the highest abortion rates in the world: "Despite a significant reduction in the abortion to birth ratio since the mid-1990s, the countries of the former Soviet Union maintain the highest rate of abortions in the world. In 2001, 1.31 million children were born in Russia, while 2.11 million abortions were performed. In 2005, 1.6 million abortions were registered in Russia; 20% of these involved girls under the age of 18. Official statistics put the number of abortions at 450,000 in 2020.As of 2021, the abortion rate was 12 abortions per year per 1000 women aged 15–44 years.Abortion statistics were considered state secrets in the Soviet Union until the end of the 1980s. During this period, the USSR had one of the highest abortion rates in the world. The abortion rate in the USSR peaked in 1965, when 5.5 million abortions were performed, the highest number in Russia's history. Nevertheless, the legalization of abortion did not fully eliminate criminal abortions. [E.A. Sadvokasova]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_RussiaSome people here criticize Raegan et al, for winning the Cold War without firing a shot, and being Pro-Life and Pro-Freedom. But if Reagan, for e.g. or another Pro-Life Conservative like him, had the kind of power Putin has had in Russia for over 20 years, abortion would have been illegal long ago. Putin has some people fooled, but clearly doesn't care much at all. I continue to hope for a Post-Putin Russia, consecrated to Our Lady's Immaculate Heart, that God can use for His Perfect Will.God Bless.
Quote from: Julio on May 26, 2022, 02:25:57 AMI understand that the U.S lead West is such a strong supporter of Ukraine. If it is premised that the war shall end until Putin loses, it is on the bases of the presumption that Russia will be the loser. What if Russia shall be victorious? Right now, if the statistical conditions shall be considered, the fact is Russian military that Putin calls "allied forces" is continuing to make success assuming that it is in a slow pacing. I think its been 3 months from the moment the invasion started in Ukraine, yet, the failure to eject the Russians with the use of the Western military equipment, intelligence and military fund aren't enough to wipeout the Russian presence in their nation. So, what makes them think that Putin will be the loser? Assuming that Putin is not going to make any further success, it shall be stalemate and still he is victorious for taking certain parts of Ukraine. Let us see if the Ukrainians can push the Russians out of that nation. If Poland is so noisy about their support of Ukraine, the Russians have the Serbians who are equally adamant of giving that high regard to Putin and his military vision of Russia and Europe. His statements are the gospel truths for these people who have animosity and hatred against NATO.
Quote from: Greg on May 25, 2022, 10:41:08 PMRussia has a birthrate 28 percent higher than Ukraine's.Neither are good rates, but Ukraine's birthrate is 1.4 one of the lowest in Europe.
Quotethen use the energy and food markets to cause chaos and bankrupt the West into civil war.
Quote from: MaximGun on May 26, 2022, 08:16:03 AMRussia are also paying their foreign debts. The USA is trying desperately to stop them and make them "default" by closing the banks to the transactions.What a ridiculous joke the western countries are.
Quote from: james03 on May 26, 2022, 08:10:08 AMI can see Russia agreeing to allow Poland to take over the historically Catholic West. It would cause bad feelings and internal conflict within the West and Russia would be stupid to try and occupy a hostile territory.Quotethen use the energy and food markets to cause chaos and bankrupt the West into civil war.Poorly stated. Russia has not cut off food and energy to date. If Germany agreed to open up Nordstream 2, Russia would start sending them gas. Russia has not cut off crude and refined products, the West "has". I put it in quotes as there are games being played. Blend up a crude shipment of 49% Russian with some other flavor and you are not importing a Russian cargo.Russia is responding to the unprecedented act of the West stealing their offshore central bank reserves, which was an act of suicide. Hence the requirement to pay in rubles. The other thing is that Putin, Medvedev, and Lavrov are the faces of the moderate, Western leaning faction in Russia that is wary about going all-in with China. They have to deal with a crazed, pro-Soviet party that is gaining power because of idiotic moves of Western "diplomats". I can see the Western leaning faction working on reestablishing/strengthening ties with countries like Italy, Hungary, and Brazil in an effort to normalize relations with the West. France has also made some overtures.The major problem that Russia faces ironically are the huge blunders made by the West which is causing Western economies to implode. This can result in the Western leaders doing something really stupid and suicidal.
Quote from: dellery on May 26, 2022, 03:49:59 AMWhile Russia cannot stand toe-to-toe against NATO this doesn't mean she'll automatically lose. A Russian victory would not take the whole of Ukraine, because that would bring the Russians face-to-face with NATO, and then they'd also have to pacify ALL of Ukraine, which would not be a real victory. If Russia takes all of Ukraine NATO can make it a never-ending insurgency. These are some of the reasons Russia will not attempt to take all of Ukraine.A Russian victory will take eastern Ukraine and freeze the conflict in a stalemate, then use the energy and food markets to cause chaos and bankrupt the West into civil war. This is Russia's only effective option, and the one she's been grooming for years.
Quote from: Julio on May 26, 2022, 08:09:21 PMI am not very sure with this, but the way I evaluate the factual scenario of this invasion, Putin has some adulation towards the history of the Kievan Russ by which the destruction of it by way of the total use of the Russian military arsenal will make his propaganda ineffective.