The Bible Commands Both Clergy And Laity Receive Both Bread And The Cup Of Wine

[Albert Kopsho]

The Bible commands that both clergy and laity receive both the bread and the cup of wine. So all Catholics should receive both the bread and the cup of wine during Holy Communion since the Bible commands it.

[piabee]

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[Fleur-de-Lys]

From the Catholic Encyclopedia:

The Nestorians were condemned in the patristic period, and the heretics in the Council of Trent, because they denied that the Real Presence was whole and entire under each form (Denzinger-Bannwart, 930 sqq.; Mansi, XXX). The Nestorians had denied that the Real Presence was wholly and entirely under each form. The bread, they said, contained only the Body of Christ and the wine only His Blood. This is heretical. Because, as the Church quotes (and the text is the authentic Greek), "whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord" (1 Corinthians 11:27). For, "Christ rising again from the dead, dieth now no more" (Romans 6:9). Separation of flesh and blood is death, and hence Christ's presence whole and entire under each species is a dogma of Catholic belief. Catholic theology offers this explanation: By the words of consecration, Christ's Body is under the appearance of bread, and His Blood under the appearance of wine. The Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ form one indivisible Person, and must be found together. That virtue or force which unites the body to the blood, and vice versa, in the Eucharist, is known in Catholic theology under the term concomitance. Utraquism tended to undo this dogma, because it declared communion under both forms essential to salvation. This was virtually to deny that Christ was whole and entire under each form. It went further, in declaring that Communion-the reception of the Eucharist-was absolutely necessary to salvation.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15244b.htm

[Albert Kopsho]

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Well the fact that at the Last Supper all 12 Jesus followers received both the bread and the cup of wine is proof that Holy Communion is supposed to be received under both the bread and the cup of wine by both clergy and laity.

[Fleur-de-Lys]

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Well the fact that at the Last Supper all 12 Jesus followers received both the bread and the cup of wine is proof that Holy Communion is supposed to be received under both the bread and the cup of wine by both clergy and laity.

No, it's not.

[King Wenceslas]

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[Sagradocorazon]

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Well the fact that at the Last Supper all 12 Jesus followers received both the bread and the cup of wine is proof that Holy Communion is supposed to be received under both the bread and the cup of wine by both clergy and laity.

That's not a command. And that's the second you've used that little angry face that I've seen...calm down a little

[Michael Wilson]

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Well the fact that at the Last Supper all 12 Jesus followers received both the bread and the cup of wine is proof that Holy Communion is supposed to be received under both the bread and the cup of wine by both clergy and laity.

The Apostles were not "laity" but Our Lord Consecrated them priests by the words: "as often as you shall do this, you will do it in memory of me." (Catechism of the Council of Trent)

[Bernadette]

The Bible commands that both clergy and laity receive both the bread and the cup of wine. So all Catholics should receive both the bread and the cup of wine during Holy Communion since the Bible commands it.

It's not bread and wine anymore after the consecration. People might take your points a little more seriously if you pin this sort of stuff down first.

Edit: And yes, please do continue to tell us all how wrong we are. Please. Do. 

[SamVanHouten]

The Bible commands that both clergy and laity receive both the bread and the cup of wine. So all Catholics should receive both the bread and the cup of wine during Holy Communion since the Bible commands it.

Whom do you serve, Luther or CHRIST?

[LouisIX]

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Well the fact that at the Last Supper all 12 Jesus followers received both the bread and the cup of wine is proof that Holy Communion is supposed to be received under both the bread and the cup of wine by both clergy and laity.

Well, with top-notch arguments like that...

[Miriam_M]

Troll

A rash of the species lately, in case anyone else has noticed.

[Pheo]

proof that Holy Communion is supposed to be received under both the bread and the cup of wine

Well there's your problem right there.  Only accidents remain after the Consecration, so we don't receive "bread" or "wine."  Both species of Holy Communion contain the same substance.  Lining up at the Novus Ordo self-communion "cup" queue is totally unnecessary.

[martin88nyc]

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Well the fact that at the Last Supper all 12 Jesus followers received both the bread and the cup of wine is proof that Holy Communion is supposed to be received under both the bread and the cup of wine by both clergy and laity.

The Apostles were not "laity" but Our Lord Consecrated them priests by the words: "as often as you shall do this, you will do it in memory of me." (Catechism of the Council of Trent)

THIS!
Albert what are you trying to prove and what are your motives?
This is a traditionalist forum where people know the true teachings of the Catholic Church. Perhaps you disdain traditions or just want to prove your own concepts by finding friendly souls here. In any case why not join a Lutheran forum.

[Michael Wilson]

Albert has been banned by the admin for being a troll.