Vatican Announces Commission on Women Deacons

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Vatican Announces Commission on Women Deacons

Tim Reidy, Gerard O'Connell | Aug 2 2016 - 6:45am | 6 comments

In a press release issued this morning, the Vatican announced that "after intense prayer and mature reflection," Pope In a press release issued this morning, the Vatican announced that "after intense prayer and mature reflection," Pope Francis has established a "Commission of Study on the Diaconate of Women" and named twelve members to it, six of them women, including one American—Professor Phyllis Zagano, who teaches at Hofstra University, Hempstead, N.Y.

Professor Zagano is a widely published author on the subject of women deacons whose writings who have appeared in America.

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I have no words...

Prayerful

:lol:

Hopefully it'll just some bs political timewasting thing, but this with the current paragon of orthodoxy, anything is possible.
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#3
Our Lady of La Salette:

Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of the antichrist.


Interpretation:

Rome must first lose the true faith and then the Vatican will become the seat of the antichrist.


Full apostasy is on the horizon. Bergolio or his successor hands the church over to the antichrist. Better get your home chapels ready folks we are going underground. This is just not going to end well.



Greg

Contentment is knowing that you're right. Happiness is knowing that someone else is wrong.

Prayerful

Fr Z thinks it'll be okay. God bless his optimism. Anyway I don't think the New Church gay mafia are too sold on womyn priests. They'd rather collared gay understudies living on the pennies of parishioners to the penury of public assistance.
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LausTibiChriste

Fr Z also thinks JPII should be named a Doctor of the Church so......
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Prayerful

Quote from: LausTibiChriste on August 02, 2016, 11:45:33 AM
Fr Z also thinks JPII should be named a Doctor of the Church so......

At least that thing doesn't seem to show at the top of the blog. I suppose it's sentiment for the Bishop who ordained him. He is very positive, a bit too positive sometimes in regard to bishops.
Padre Pio: Pray, hope, and don't worry. Worry is useless. God is merciful and will hear your prayer.

Antoninus

Quote from: LausTibiChriste on August 02, 2016, 11:45:33 AM
Fr Z also thinks JPII should be named a Doctor of the Church so......

But, but, but, brick by brick.

But, but, but, Francis through Benedict.

But, but, but Father Gregory Reynolds is still excommunicated or something.

1seeker

Quote from: Prayerful on August 02, 2016, 11:35:54 AM
Fr Z thinks it'll be okay.

Wasn't he the same guy who said the Church would never allow communion for people who live in mortal sin?

And that Pope Francis was misunderstood on Who Am I To Judge?

And that Pope Francis was misunderstood when affirming the validity of the Old Covenant?

And that Pope Francis when praying with the Lutherans will be secretly trying to convert them?

The man is living in a wall-padded multicolor fantasy world, I've stopped taking him seriously long ago.

MilesChristi

The world is charged with the grandeur of God.
    It will flame out, like shining from shook foil;
    It gathers to a greatness, like the ooze of oil
Crushed. Why do men then now not reck his rod?
Generations have trod, have trod, have trod;
    And all is seared with trade; bleared, smeared with toil;
    And wears man's smudge and shares man's smell: the soil
Is bare now, nor can foot feel, being shod.

And for all this, nature is never spent;
    There lives the dearest freshness deep down things;
And though the last lights off the black West went
    Oh, morning, at the brown brink eastward, springs —
Because the Holy Ghost over the bent
    World broods with warm breast and with ah! bright wings.

Sockpuppet

The early Church had deaconesses.

Now just because the early Church did it doesn't mean we should.

But it's not heresy. And it's going to happen.

Larry

Quote from: Sockpuppet on August 02, 2016, 01:20:10 PM
The early Church had deaconesses.

Now just because the early Church did it doesn't mean we should.

But it's not heresy. And it's going to happen.

They weren't ordained though. They served the Christian community. They are more like predecessors to Religious Sisters than an ordained diaconate.
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abc123

Quote from: 1seeker on August 02, 2016, 10:55:30 AM
http://americamagazine.org/content/all-things/vatican-francis-announces-commission-women-deacons

Vatican Announces Commission on Women Deacons

Tim Reidy, Gerard O'Connell | Aug 2 2016 - 6:45am | 6 comments

In a press release issued this morning, the Vatican announced that "after intense prayer and mature reflection," Pope In a press release issued this morning, the Vatican announced that "after intense prayer and mature reflection," Pope Francis has established a "Commission of Study on the Diaconate of Women" and named twelve members to it, six of them women, including one American—Professor Phyllis Zagano, who teaches at Hofstra University, Hempstead, N.Y.

Professor Zagano is a widely published author on the subject of women deacons whose writings who have appeared in America.

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I have no words...

I find it interesting that further in the interview Francis rightly states what the role of these deaconesses in the early Church was to primarily assist with the baptism of women since it was done nude and by full immersion. So why on earth would he assemble a commission to examine the issue? The practice of nude Baptism fell into disuse and the Church rightly allowed this role to disappear. It's also important to emphasize that, despite what some modernists contend, this was NOT an ordained ministry.

I can only surmise that this is a step on the road to abandon celibacy in the Roman priesthood or to even pave the way for "priestesses" at some point down the road. If one can get used to "Deaconess Susan" wearing an alb and stole, why not allow priests to marry? If it's one thing we can all agree on: you give a Modernist an inch and next you realize you're singing "On Eagle's Wings."

Antoninus

Quote from: Sockpuppet on August 02, 2016, 01:20:10 PM
The early Church had deaconesses.

Now just because the early Church did it doesn't mean we should.

But it's not heresy. And it's going to happen.

As long as no one has a spittle flecked nutty - Fr Z