Can someone summarize the SOS?

[james03]

There's been some whispers (I probably read it in an article posted here) that there will be a move against Bergoglio after the Synod of Synodality is finished and I'm assuming its work published in the AAS.

Can someone post some bullet points on the SOS, like when it will conclude and what is expected to come out of it?

Thanks.

[benedicite]

From the Code of Canon Law:

Can. 1404 The First See is judged by no one.

https://www.vatican.va/archive/cod-iuris-canonici/eng/documents/cic_lib7-cann1400-1500_en.html#Part_I.

[james03]

Bergoglio is a pertinacious heretic and not Catholic.  He's not the Pope.  Does your TLM fully comply with the restrictions put in place by Bergoglio?

But that's not the topic.  Anyone have a summary of what the SOS is all about?

[james03]

Here's a report from someone who reviewed the North American effort.  Looks like they stuffed it with buzzwords and aren't taking it seriously.

I think the most damage will be from the Europeans, who will push faggotry, and Latin America, who will promote marxism.  We'll see.

https://www.thecatholicthing.org/2023/05/30/synodality-without-spirit/

[james03]

The two sessions of the XVI Ordinary General Assembly of the Synod of Bishops will take place from Oct. 4 to 29, 2023, and in October 2024, bringing together bishops from across the world to discuss and prepare a document to counsel the pope.

[james03]

Double post

[james03]

Found the interim presentation:

https://www.synod.va/content/dam/synod/common/phases/continental-stage/dcs/Documento-Tappa-Continentale-EN.pdf

listening as openness to welcome:

'Through this process we have
discovered that synodality is a way of being Church – in fact, it is the way
of being Church'.

Through these voices, we hear the dream of "a global and synodal Church that lives unity
in diversity. God is preparing something new, and we must collaborate"

"Hello, this is the 80's calling.  We want our modernist gobbledy-gook back."

[james03]

A particularly attentive listening must be
offered to enable ordained ministers to negotiate the many dimensions of
their emotional and sexual life. The need to ensure appropriate forms of
welcome and protection for the women and eventual children of priests
who have broken the vow of celibacy, who are otherwise at risk of suffering
serious injustice and discrimination, is also noted.

"The forms of discrimination listed – the lack of listening, the
violation of the right to choose where and with whom to live, the denial of
the sacraments, the accusation of witchcraft, abuse – and others, describe
the culture of rejection towards persons with disabilities. They do not arise
by chance, but have in common the same root: the idea that the lives of
persons with disabilities are worth less than others"

to carry out educational work among women who are called upon
to make a responsible choice when going through a difficult time in their
lives, with the aim of preserving and protecting the lives of unborn children
and preventing abortion; to care for women with post-abortion syndrome."

Among those who ask for a more meaningful dialogue and a more
welcoming space we also find those who, for various reasons, feel a tension
between belonging to the Church and their own loving relationships, such
as: remarried divorcees, single parents, people living in a polygamous
marriage, LGBTQ people, etc

As I wrote above, the Latin Americans will promote jewish bolshevism:

Hence the importance of returning to the essence of Christian life
and of our first love, and returning to our roots as the first communities; that
is to say, where all things were held in common" (EC Costa Rica)

"The world needs a 'Church that goes forth', that rejects
the division between believers and non-believers, that looks at humanity
and offers it more than a doctrine or a strategy, an experience of salvation, a
'coup of gift' that responds to the cry of humanity and nature"

"A social climate of dialogue is cultivated
with those who practice traditional African religion, too, and with every
other person or community, whatever religious denomination they belong
to" (EC Senegal, Mauritania, Cape Verde and Guinea Bissau). However, the
reports indicate that there is still a long way to go in terms of social, cultural,
spiritual and intellectual exchange and collaboration.

"It is our desire to
protect this part of God's creation, as the wellbeing of our people depends
on the ocean in so many ways. In some of our countries the major threat
is the ocean as changes in climate have drastic outcomes for the actual
survival of these countries" (EC Pacific).

Yep, got to get the climate hoax in there.  Washington pays good money and keeps the perverts in the Vatican well supplied.

The reports request greater attention to divisive realities,
for example the question of sharing the Eucharist.

Issues such as the Church's
teaching on abortion, contraception, ordination of women, married clergy,
celibacy, divorce and remarriage, Holy Communion, homosexuality,
LGBTQIA+ were raised up across the Dioceses both rural an urban. There
were of course differing views on these and it is not possible to give a
definitive community stance on any of these issues"

In the embrace of an enriching diversity, we can find our deeper unity and
the opportunity to cooperate with God's grace: "We should also take heed
of the thoughts and ideas of the extended family and companions in the
journey; non-Catholics, Politicians and non-believers. These are voices in our
neighbourhood we cannot afford to avoid lest we miss out God's whispers
through them!"

"Those who were most committed to the synod
process were women,

Which is why the Lord did not allow them to be priests or bishops.

many reports ask that the Church continue its
discernment in relation to a range of specific questions: the active role of
women in the governing structures of Church bodies, the possibility for
women with adequate training to preach in parish settings, and a female
diaconate. Much greater diversity of opinion was expressed on the subject
of priestly ordination for women, which some reports call for, while others
consider a closed issue.

"Division regarding the celebration
of the liturgy was reflected in synodal consultations. 'Sadly, celebration of
the Eucharist is also experienced as an area of division within the Church.
The most common issue regarding the liturgy is the celebration of the preConciliar Mass.'

Many summaries also give voice to the
pain of not being able to access the Sacraments experienced by remarried
divorcees and those who have entered into polygamous marriages.There
is no unanimity on how to deal with these situations:

[james03]

So there's the bullet point so far.  In October they will meet and proclaim the enthronement of anti-Christ with joy and celebration.

It's curious they will wait a year and do another meeting the following October.  Likely to gage the push back.

[awkward customer]

listening as openness to welcome:

'Through this process we have
discovered that synodality is a way of being Church – in fact, it is the way
of being Church'.

Through these voices, we hear the dream of "a global and synodal Church that lives unity
in diversity. God is preparing something new, and we must collaborate"

Pure Gnosticism and Hermeticism. 

Having listened to hours of James Lindsay describing these belief systems and how they form the basis of modern Western thought, I've been wondering about their influence on Vatican II.   And here's the first clue, in the language they use in the brief quotes above, language like 'being Church' - in other words, the Church isn't something that is, but something that we can be.   Not to mention all the nonsense about unity on diversity, which doesn't exist. 

Basically, Traditional Catholicism is the Gnostic prison they wish to escape from and they are using the methods of the Hermetics to bring about the change they want.   Gnostic 'knowing' comes about when we realise that the rules which restrict and bind are oppressive products of oppressive times.  Liberation comes when we realise that shaking off the chains which bind us, humanity can create a new future of love and happiness forever.  In order to achieve this, the traditions and former ways of doing things have to be dismantled completely, hence the war on Tradition that these people won't finish until they have torn everything down.

Vatican II is Gnosticism/Hermeticism dressed up for the modern age.

[james03]

From what I've seen of Lindsay, I equate him to an Ayn Rand.  Rand understood and predicted Leftist thought and action almost to "prophet" level.  She did this based on Aristotle and I'm guessing her young life in the USSR.

Lindsay definitely gets Leftist thought and his speech to the EU nailed it.

Rand screwed up because she was an atheist and blew the core error in Leftism, which is denial of Original Sin, and thus a belief in utopia.

Lindsay appears to also blow it in the same manner.  The core belief of jewish Bolshevism is Tikkun Olam, as discussed in former leading revolutionary David Horowitz's book, "Politics of Bad Faith", in which he discusses jewish bolshevism as being a heresy of the jewish teaching on Tikkun Olam.

Lindsay is close on spotting a gnostic element.  And that element is kabbalah, specifically the teaching on Tikkun Olam and the repairing of the kelim in Lurianic Kabbalah as discussed by Horowitz.

As an aside, he also understands that Cultural Marxism got formalized and spread by the Frankfurt School.  I doubt he'll ever say the original name, which was The Jewish Frankfurt School, or identify Lukacs as one of the jewish butchers of the Hungarian revolution along with Bella Cohen.

Any good recommendations on a Lindsay talk where he gets into the Gnostic/Hermetic side of leftism?

[awkward customer]

From what I've seen of Lindsay, I equate him to an Ayn Rand.  Rand understood and predicted Leftist thought and action almost to "prophet" level.  She did this based on Aristotle and I'm guessing her young life in the USSR.

Lindsay definitely gets Leftist thought and his speech to the EU nailed it.

Rand screwed up because she was an atheist and blew the core error in Leftism, which is denial of Original Sin, and thus a belief in utopia.

Lindsay appears to also blow it in the same manner.  The core belief of jewish Bolshevism is Tikkun Olam, as discussed in former leading revolutionary David Horowitz's book, "Politics of Bad Faith", in which he discusses jewish bolshevism as being a heresy of the jewish teaching on Tikkun Olam.

Lindsay is close on spotting a gnostic element.  And that element is kabbalah, specifically the teaching on Tikkun Olam and the repairing of the kelim in Lurianic Kabbalah as discussed by Horowitz.

As an aside, he also understands that Cultural Marxism got formalized and spread by the Frankfurt School.  I doubt he'll ever say the original name, which was The Jewish Frankfurt School, or identify Lukacs as one of the jewish butchers of the Hungarian revolution along with Bella Cohen.

Any good recommendations on a Lindsay talk where he gets into the Gnostic/Hermetic side of leftism?

How about this?



The thing is, the Gnostic/Hermetic belief system is also very much part of Western gentile thought.  These ideas found their way from Babylon to Alexandria and Greece and influenced the mystery religions of the ancient world.  They never really went away, and bubbled under the surface in the West until the Reformation and Enlightenment allowed them to come to the fore again.

[awkward customer]

And this?

[james03]

Thanks for the talks.  I'll watch them this weekend.

[james03]

I watched some of each video.  They are very long and I don't have the time.  My initial assessment was correct, he is like an Ayn Rand.  And like Rand he traces the communists' "tool box" to Kant and Hegel.  Which is interesting.  And like Rand he comes up short.

He stresses that "alienation" and "citizen of the world" are common themes.  Which people carry around with them the mark of Cain after calling down a blood curse on themselves after killing the Son of God?  Citizen of the world?  We call them "cosmopolitan jews".  Every Easter and Christmas they are reminded they are not a part of the Nation whose country they are citizens of.  They would really like to create something called "citizen of the world".

Interestingly he mentions briefly "crazy Luria" but that's about it.  Maybe in another video he discusses Luriaic Kabballah.  Don't know.

I think he does a good job in discussing how commies use Hegel, even the current cultural marxists.  And his discussion of it being Gnostic is spot on.  But he can go deeper and show that the gnosis is Luriaic Kabballah as shown by Horowitz.

And here's a talk I propose.  For the condensed version, start at 1:17 and watch for only 3 minutes.  He's an anti-communist rabbi from Israel.  He is basically reinforcing what Horowitz wrote about.  If you have 10 minutes, start at 1:16 and watch to the end.