What would you do if you were drafted?

Started by Kaesekopf, January 27, 2013, 01:55:42 PM

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Kaesekopf

January 27, 2013, 01:55:42 PM
Easy question.  Say you were drafted into the US military to go off and fight a war...  what would you do?
Wie dein Sonntag, so dein Sterbetag.

I am not altogether on anybody's side, because nobody is altogether on my side.  ~Treebeard, LOTR

Jesus son of David, have mercy on me.

Bonaventure

#1
January 27, 2013, 01:59:56 PM
I think I'd have to go in good conscience. If my commanding officer told me to do something I couldn't later (eg My Lai), I'd refuse.
Put not your trust in princes, in sons of men in whom there is no salvation. When his breath departs he returns to his earth; on that very day his plans perish.

Mithrandylan

#2
January 27, 2013, 02:07:55 PM
I would not go.  I would move to another country, or be put in jail. 

ETA: My response is not universal.  I am assuming that you meant being drafted by the US military and in the present.  In other circumstance I might see going to war for country as something I could do in conscience.
Ps 135

Quia in humilitáte nostra memor fuit nostri: * quóniam in ætérnum misericórdia eius.
Et redémit nos ab inimícis nostris: * quóniam in ætérnum misericórdia eius.
Qui dat escam omni carni: * quóniam in ætérnum misericórdia eius.
Confitémini Deo cæli: * quóniam in ætérnum misericórdia eius.
Confitémini Dómino dominórum: * quóniam in ætérnum misericórdia eius.

For he was mindful of us in our affliction: * for his mercy endureth for ever.
And he redeemed us from our enemies: * for his mercy endureth for ever.
Who giveth food to all flesh: * for his mercy endureth for ever.
Give glory to the God of heaven: * for his mercy endureth for ever.
Give glory to the Lord of lords: * for his mercy endureth for ever.

-I retract any and all statements I have made that are incongruent with the True Faith, and apologize for ever having made them-

Kaesekopf

#3
January 27, 2013, 02:48:53 PM
Quote from: Mithrandylan on January 27, 2013, 02:07:55 PM
I would not go.  I would move to another country, or be put in jail. 

ETA: My response is not universal.  I am assuming that you meant being drafted by the US military and in the present.  In other circumstance I might see going to war for country as something I could do in conscience.

Yes.  Modern day United States.
Wie dein Sonntag, so dein Sterbetag.

I am not altogether on anybody's side, because nobody is altogether on my side.  ~Treebeard, LOTR

Jesus son of David, have mercy on me.

Mithrandylan

#4
January 27, 2013, 02:56:48 PM
Would absolutely not go then.  In fact, I am uneasy about even reaping the "benefits" of our "freedoms" when the same freedoms also support evil.  Of course, any place I go to will be like that so it's more or less a necessary or excusable evil, but I cannot fight for it.  If I was called to, I'd refuse.
Ps 135

Quia in humilitáte nostra memor fuit nostri: * quóniam in ætérnum misericórdia eius.
Et redémit nos ab inimícis nostris: * quóniam in ætérnum misericórdia eius.
Qui dat escam omni carni: * quóniam in ætérnum misericórdia eius.
Confitémini Deo cæli: * quóniam in ætérnum misericórdia eius.
Confitémini Dómino dominórum: * quóniam in ætérnum misericórdia eius.

For he was mindful of us in our affliction: * for his mercy endureth for ever.
And he redeemed us from our enemies: * for his mercy endureth for ever.
Who giveth food to all flesh: * for his mercy endureth for ever.
Give glory to the God of heaven: * for his mercy endureth for ever.
Give glory to the Lord of lords: * for his mercy endureth for ever.

-I retract any and all statements I have made that are incongruent with the True Faith, and apologize for ever having made them-

Ancilla Domini

#5
January 27, 2013, 05:03:04 PM
Quote from: Kaesekopf on January 27, 2013, 01:55:42 PMEasy question.  Say you were drafted into the US military to go off and fight a war...  what would you do?

I'd go.

Penelope

#6
January 27, 2013, 05:03:45 PM
I have a couple friends in Canada who might be looking to have a house guest for an extended period of time.

Mithrandylan

#7
January 27, 2013, 05:41:50 PM
Quote from: Penelope on January 27, 2013, 05:03:45 PM
I have a couple friends in Canada who might be looking to have a house guest for an extended period of time.

Do they grow pot?

I hear a lot of Canadiens grow pot.
Ps 135

Quia in humilitáte nostra memor fuit nostri: * quóniam in ætérnum misericórdia eius.
Et redémit nos ab inimícis nostris: * quóniam in ætérnum misericórdia eius.
Qui dat escam omni carni: * quóniam in ætérnum misericórdia eius.
Confitémini Deo cæli: * quóniam in ætérnum misericórdia eius.
Confitémini Dómino dominórum: * quóniam in ætérnum misericórdia eius.

For he was mindful of us in our affliction: * for his mercy endureth for ever.
And he redeemed us from our enemies: * for his mercy endureth for ever.
Who giveth food to all flesh: * for his mercy endureth for ever.
Give glory to the God of heaven: * for his mercy endureth for ever.
Give glory to the Lord of lords: * for his mercy endureth for ever.

-I retract any and all statements I have made that are incongruent with the True Faith, and apologize for ever having made them-

MilesChristi

#8
January 27, 2013, 08:15:29 PM
Wouldn't go. Especially, when you see the future wars we might get into.
Fighting alongside and for those who massacred christians, no thanks.
If I go to the military, tis to fight for my country, not another.
Or else to fight for a real cause.
The world is charged with the grandeur of God.
    It will flame out, like shining from shook foil;
    It gathers to a greatness, like the ooze of oil
Crushed. Why do men then now not reck his rod?
Generations have trod, have trod, have trod;
    And all is seared with trade; bleared, smeared with toil;
    And wears man's smudge and shares man's smell: the soil
Is bare now, nor can foot feel, being shod.

And for all this, nature is never spent;
    There lives the dearest freshness deep down things;
And though the last lights off the black West went
    Oh, morning, at the brown brink eastward, springs —
Because the Holy Ghost over the bent
    World broods with warm breast and with ah! bright wings.

zork

#9
January 27, 2013, 09:13:20 PM
If drafted by my country to fight, I would refuse and resist.
Christus vincit, Christus regnat, Christus imperat.

Gottmitunsalex

#10
January 28, 2013, 12:18:59 AM
Quote from: vakarian on January 27, 2013, 09:13:20 PM
If drafted by my country to fight, I would refuse and resist.

Hold on now. Think twice about your decision.
You would be asked to fight for these good men:
"Nothing is more miserable than those people who never failed to attack their own salvation. When there was need to observe the Law, they trampled it under foot. Now that the Law has ceased to bind, they obstinately strive to observe it. What could be more pitiable that those who provoke God not only by transgressing the Law but also by keeping it? But at any rate the Jews say that they, too, adore God. God forbid that I say that. No Jew adores God! Who say so? The Son of God say so. For he said: "If you were to know my Father, you would also know me. But you neither know me nor do you know my Father". Could I produce a witness more trustworthy than the Son of God?"  St. John Chrysostom  Sunday Homily

"The two goals of the Jews: The universal domination of the world and the destruction of Catholicism, out of hatred for Christ" --Mgr. Jouin

Der Kaiser

#11
January 28, 2013, 02:01:33 AM
If we mean in like in the olden days WWII and pre WWII I would not only go I would sign up. All of the others move or go to prison. Especially now days. I have no desire to kill innocent people or lose my life to fight Israels Wars. Also being 31 not something I worry about. 8)
"If a Pope changes the rites of the sacraments he puts himself outside the Church and is Anathema"-Pope Innocent III

"Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of Anti-Christ"-Our Lady of La Sallette

The hebrews have not recognized the lord, therefore we can not recognize the hebrews.-St Pius X

Der Kaiser

#12
January 28, 2013, 02:03:11 AM
Quote from: Gottmitunsalex on January 28, 2013, 12:18:59 AM
Quote from: vakarian on January 27, 2013, 09:13:20 PM
If drafted by my country to fight, I would refuse and resist.

Hold on now. Think twice about your decision.
You would be asked to fight for these good men:


Correction you'd be asked by the one on the right to fight for the one on the left  (and his false occupied country).
"If a Pope changes the rites of the sacraments he puts himself outside the Church and is Anathema"-Pope Innocent III

"Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of Anti-Christ"-Our Lady of La Sallette

The hebrews have not recognized the lord, therefore we can not recognize the hebrews.-St Pius X

Kaesekopf

#13
January 28, 2013, 10:28:13 AM
Do you think the State has a moral right to conscript and draft young men to go to war?
Wie dein Sonntag, so dein Sterbetag.

I am not altogether on anybody's side, because nobody is altogether on my side.  ~Treebeard, LOTR

Jesus son of David, have mercy on me.

Bonaventure

#14
January 28, 2013, 10:50:29 AM
Yes.
Put not your trust in princes, in sons of men in whom there is no salvation. When his breath departs he returns to his earth; on that very day his plans perish.
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