Will You Attend the NO?

[Alphonsus Jr.]

I don't believe we've had this poll.  If your answer is "No, except for funerals, weddings, etc." then answer no. 

The "kind" of NO does not factor into it.  Everything from ad orientem in Latin to clown mass in an Oscar Meyer truck, and for any reason or at any frequency (you go for daily mass, you go when you have no TLM or DL, you go when you work late on Saturday night, etc.)  It could also be hypothetical, as the phrasing of the question is "will" you... So perhaps you have never been, but if the opportunity presented itself you would, for whatever reason.

Hopefully the number will be very low, or, ideally, non-existent.

Users are free to qualify or justify their answers, but of course not required.

Good poll. Not a chance for me under any circumstances.

P.S. I learned today that Fr. Z "celebrates" the Novus Ordo service. This makes a great deal of sense.

P.P.S. Some here seem to be under the impression the the Novus Ordo service may be reverently "celebrated." Apparently they're unaware that the Novus Ordo service, whether it feature clowns or Latin, is inherently irreverent. Thus to speak of a reverent Novus Ordo service makes as much sense as speaking of a luxury slum-dwelling or a chaste hooker. For more on this, see:

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdfUm_c8gCs&list=PLDA085477E90AC096[/yt]

[tmw89]

P.P.S. Some here seem to be under the impression the the Novus Ordo service may be reverently "celebrated." Apparently they're unaware that the Novus Ordo service, whether it feature clowns or Latin, is inherently irreverent. Thus to speak of a reverent Novus Ordo service makes as much sense as speaking of a luxury slum-dwelling or a chaste hooker.

Indeed... or, even more apropos, a reverent black mass.  If anything, the black mass offends our Lord less because it does not pretend to be the worship of the Universal Church!

[stitchmom]

No but I did go twice in 2012. I guess after many years I thought to "try it again"  and just like before I could not stomach it. Right now I can't travel to a TLM so we stay home.

[Mithrandylan]

No but I did go twice in 2012. I guess after many years I thought to "try it again"  and just like before I could not stomach it. Right now I can't travel to a TLM so we stay home.

I hope that God will bless and preserve you, until which time the real sacraments are available to you again.

[Jayne]

I have been to thousands of NO Masses.  I think that I am more competent to judge them than someone who never goes to them.  Why would I take the sweeping pronouncements of such a person seriously?

[Teilo and a Half]

I have been to thousands of NO Masses.  I think that I am more competent to judge them than someone who never goes to them.  Why would I take the sweeping pronouncements of such a person seriously?

Yes!

[Alphonsus Jr.]

I have been to thousands of NO Masses.  I think that I am more competent to judge them than someone who never goes to them.  Why would I take the sweeping pronouncements of such a person seriously?

One reason would be that many of us went to many Novus Ordo services before renouncing them forever. Yet our words would remain true even if not one of us had been to a single one.

"Only the fool must learn through experience."

[Jayne]

I have been to thousands of NO Masses.  I think that I am more competent to judge them than someone who never goes to them.  Why would I take the sweeping pronouncements of such a person seriously?

One reason would be that many of us went to many Novus Ordo services before renouncing them forever. Yet our words would remain true even if not one of us had been to a single one.

"Only the fool must learn through experience."

I think that experience is a better guide than unsubstantiated statements from random strangers on the Internet.

[Alphonsus Jr.]

I have been to thousands of NO Masses.  I think that I am more competent to judge them than someone who never goes to them.  Why would I take the sweeping pronouncements of such a person seriously?

One reason would be that many of us went to many Novus Ordo services before renouncing them forever. Yet our words would remain true even if not one of us had been to a single one.

"Only the fool must learn through experience."

I think that experience is a better guide than unsubstantiated statements from random strangers on the Internet.

As you like. But what exactly are you arguing here? That Novus Ordo services can be reverent?

[Jayne]

As you like. But what exactly are you arguing here? That Novus Ordo services can be reverent?

That is my position.  I'm not sure that I want to argue it here.  One of my goals in posting here is to avoid argumentative and troll-like behaviour.  I may have already gone too far on this thread

[Mithrandylan]

Why not go any further?

This seems to be the thread for it.

It gives people who attend the NO an opportunity to justify their decision.

And I'd agree.  The NO can be reverent.  Just like this:

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8kcmawXSWo[/yt]

[Teilo and a Half]

I have been to thousands of NO Masses.  I think that I am more competent to judge them than someone who never goes to them.  Why would I take the sweeping pronouncements of such a person seriously?

One reason would be that many of us went to many Novus Ordo services before renouncing them forever. Yet our words would remain true even if not one of us had been to a single one.

"Only the fool must learn through experience."

I think that experience is a better guide than unsubstantiated statements from random strangers on the Internet.

Yes!

[Penelope]

I teach at an NO school, so I am subjected to the NO much more frequently than I would ever care to be (I never care to be). I spend the time with my arms crossed and my eyes cast down, praying "How much longer, Lord? Please let it be soon." However, since I am a sedeplenist, I acknowledge the validity of the new rites for Mass and sacraments, and while I recognize their inherent inferiority, I still have an obligation. If there were no TLM available, I would be obligated to attend the most by-the-books NO I could find. Fortunately for me, I'm on the east coast, and while TLMs are not exactly as plentiful as they are in, say, Kansas City, there are plenty of them within an hour's drive that I could get to on a weekly basis, should my usual TLM suddenly be unavailable.

[Jayne]

Why not go any further?

This seems to be the thread for it.

It gives people who attend the NO an opportunity to justify their decision.

1. I don't need to justify my decision.  It is between God and me.  It does not involve anyone here.

2. It would probably just irritate people.

[Mithrandylan]

Penelope, I'm sure that you could receive a dispensation from the principal to not have to attend the Novus Ordo at your school.  After all, the Second Vatican Council taught that man has the right to worship according to his own religious impulse (Dignitatis Humanae, no 4).  Your dignity as a human person, according to the council, affords you the right to worship God as you see fit. 

/end tongue in cheek

Yes, it seems this is a problem that many sedeplenists run into nowadays.  However, the SSPX (at least, what's left of it) think Francis is Peter, and they do not attend or acknowledge the Novus Ordo as a Catholic rite.

Though I have always been fascinated with this idea of the TLM being superior to the NO.  To someone who "acknowledges" both, this could only refer to a preferential superiority, could it not?