No co-sleeping?!

Started by TandJ, March 29, 2017, 02:32:38 PM

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Penelope

It's probably about as common anywhere as the unfortunate but frequent occurrence of exhausted parents who've been told not to bring baby into bed falling asleep with them in a chair or on a couch and dropping the baby. 

I read the admonition against co-sleeping in the Angelus Press published "Mother Love."

People love to ask co-sleeping families nebbing questions about how they keep having more children. The answer is that there are other rooms in the house.


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Greg

For most of Catholic history peasants lived in one room homes.

How do you avoid co-sleeping in a roundhouse or hovel?
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Chestertonian

cosleeping also can mean different things to different people.  Some people use it interchangably with "bedsharing" but other people use it to mean putting the crib right next to Mom's side of the bed, or using a specialized "cosleepr" or letting the baby sleep in the same room as the parents. 

we were bedsharing at one point with our first son when he was little because it was the only way the Mrs could get any sleep.  But then one of my night nurses told her all of these horror stories about babies coming into the er with anoxic brain injuries due to cospeepung then she had to stop nursing him anyway so we put the crib right next to the bed.... thebest of both worlds
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TandJ

I guess that's what I'm trying to figure out. None of the sermons mentioned what kind of sinful activity this would be. Is it more of a safety thing or something else? I know plenty large families who bed-share and they obviously have no problem in their intimate lives because of it. I just am trying to wrap my head about how in Earth such a wonderful thing could even be a sin at all. I don't have a trad priest to personally ask this unfortunately

Carleendiane

Never considering it a matter of wrong or right, I always brought my babies after they woke up the first time to nurse. They stayed with me till morning. I can more understand an issue from 4 on up. Prior to that I'm not sure there are issues. But that being said, there is still much for me to know. But THIS is a first on this topic.
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Carleendiane

As a child and up to age 12, I cos let with a sister 5 years older. The thought never ran through my head now or then that there could possibly be a problem with it.
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Bernadette

Quote from: Greg on March 29, 2017, 05:15:49 PM
For most of Catholic history peasants lived in one room homes.

How do you avoid co-sleeping in a roundhouse or hovel?

I actually found a pretty good explanation of how this worked. Made perfect sense. I don't wonder anymore.  :shrug:
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Gardener

The more I look this up, the more I have come to think that this is in regard to older children, not one's infants and toddlers.

Vague statements like this should be addressed with one's priest, since even St. Alphonsus was not exactly specific.
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LausTibiChriste

Quote from: LouisIX on March 29, 2017, 03:56:35 PM
Quote from: Gardener on March 29, 2017, 02:57:41 PM
I think you are confused if you are taking it as "at all" at "any age".

I believe St. Alphonsus Liguori said this of children post-age 2, since mom and dad engaging in the marital act is now more visually understood.

There's a simple solution for that -- if the children are in bed (nightmare, teething issues, etc.), don't engage.

This seems... intuitive.

Honest question....what about back in the day when everyone slept in the same bed, for the most part?
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Kaesekopf

Quote from: Bernadette on March 29, 2017, 05:43:58 PM
Quote from: Greg on March 29, 2017, 05:15:49 PM
For most of Catholic history peasants lived in one room homes.

How do you avoid co-sleeping in a roundhouse or hovel?

I actually found a pretty good explanation of how this worked. Made perfect sense. I don't wonder anymore.  :shrug:

You should share this.
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Kaesekopf

Quote from: LausTibiChriste on March 29, 2017, 11:05:33 PM
Quote from: LouisIX on March 29, 2017, 03:56:35 PM
Quote from: Gardener on March 29, 2017, 02:57:41 PM
I think you are confused if you are taking it as "at all" at "any age".

I believe St. Alphonsus Liguori said this of children post-age 2, since mom and dad engaging in the marital act is now more visually understood.

There's a simple solution for that -- if the children are in bed (nightmare, teething issues, etc.), don't engage.

This seems... intuitive.

Honest question....what about back in the day when everyone slept in the same bed, for the most part?

As if people needed to figure out how to (discreetly?) have sex.
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LausTibiChriste

Quote from: Kaesekopf on March 29, 2017, 11:17:05 PM
Quote from: Bernadette on March 29, 2017, 05:43:58 PM
Quote from: Greg on March 29, 2017, 05:15:49 PM
For most of Catholic history peasants lived in one room homes.

How do you avoid co-sleeping in a roundhouse or hovel?

I actually found a pretty good explanation of how this worked. Made perfect sense. I don't wonder anymore.  :shrug:

You should share this.

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Chris Rawlings

Quote from: Kaesekopf on March 29, 2017, 02:48:37 PM
I know it's bad in the ghetto because they usually end up killing the children.

What an absurd, ridiculous thing to say.

Kaesekopf

Quote from: Chris Rawlings on March 30, 2017, 12:31:03 AM
Quote from: Kaesekopf on March 29, 2017, 02:48:37 PM
I know it's bad in the ghetto because they usually end up killing the children.

What an absurd, ridiculous thing to say.
What's ridiculous about it?  A few dozen children die each year in the ghetto because of cosleeping. 

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Wie dein Sonntag, so dein Sterbetag.

I am not altogether on anybody's side, because nobody is altogether on my side.  ~Treebeard, LOTR

Jesus son of David, have mercy on me.

Chris Rawlings

Quote from: Kaesekopf on March 30, 2017, 01:46:23 AM
Quote from: Chris Rawlings on March 30, 2017, 12:31:03 AM
Quote from: Kaesekopf on March 29, 2017, 02:48:37 PM
I know it's bad in the ghetto because they usually end up killing the children.

What an absurd, ridiculous thing to say.
What's ridiculous about it?  A few dozen children die each year in the ghetto because of cosleeping. 

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How would you even know that?