No co-sleeping?!

Started by TandJ, March 29, 2017, 02:32:38 PM

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TandJ

So I've heard this said by 3 traditional Catholic priests. I've yet to figure out the sin in it. Can anyone advise?

PatienceAndLove

Good question

Was this said to you, or was it a video or article/blog post?
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Chestertonian

It's the most pressing issue in the church today
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MilesChristi

I thought this was an extension on cohabitation
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Kaesekopf

I know it's bad in the ghetto because they usually end up killing the children. 
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Gardener

I think you are confused if you are taking it as "at all" at "any age".

I believe St. Alphonsus Liguori said this of children post-age 2, since mom and dad engaging in the marital act is now more visually understood.

There's a simple solution for that -- if the children are in bed (nightmare, teething issues, etc.), don't engage.
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TandJ

No I heard this while listening to sermons on Sensus Fidelium. These sermons didn't mention an age limit just that it's wrong to co sleep with your children. Obviously one shouldn't do the marital act at all with young children of any age nearby so I don't see what the issue is

Gardener

Could you link the sermons?
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TandJ

Between the 28-29 minute.

Also said on this one but not sure exact location

And heard it on another examination of conscience talk through on there

GeorgeT

Quote from: Kaesekopf on March 29, 2017, 02:48:37 PM
I know it's bad in the ghetto because they usually end up killing the children.

Do you have any links to this? TIA
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LouisIX

Quote from: Gardener on March 29, 2017, 02:57:41 PM
I think you are confused if you are taking it as "at all" at "any age".

I believe St. Alphonsus Liguori said this of children post-age 2, since mom and dad engaging in the marital act is now more visually understood.

There's a simple solution for that -- if the children are in bed (nightmare, teething issues, etc.), don't engage.

This seems... intuitive.
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LouisIX

I cannot imagine a single reason why co-sleeping would be immoral so long as you're not drinking, doing drugs, or a narcoleptic.
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Kaesekopf

Quote from: GeorgeT on March 29, 2017, 03:49:58 PM
Quote from: Kaesekopf on March 29, 2017, 02:48:37 PM
I know it's bad in the ghetto because they usually end up killing the children.

Do you have any links to this? TIA

Google "<any major city> cosleeping death" and I am willing to bet they all occur in the ghetto.
Wie dein Sonntag, so dein Sterbetag.

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Chestertonian

Is cosleeping even a thing in the ghetto? Seems to be more common among educated whites
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Kaesekopf

Quote from: Chestertonian on March 29, 2017, 04:23:16 PM
Is cosleeping even a thing in the ghetto? Seems to be more common among educated whites

It must be, considering the number of deaths and news articles there are about it.
Wie dein Sonntag, so dein Sterbetag.

I am not altogether on anybody's side, because nobody is altogether on my side.  ~Treebeard, LOTR

Jesus son of David, have mercy on me.