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Title: I’m new to learning Portuguese
Post by: dueSicilie on June 29, 2020, 07:19:40 PM
Olá, tudos.

I started learning Portuguese recently. I have studied French Latin and Italian in the past, and am decent in colloquial Spanish with work mates, although never studied it.

Any advice?
Title: Re: I’m new to learning Portuguese
Post by: Jayne on June 30, 2020, 03:25:36 PM
You will probably find the pronunciation the most difficult aspect of the language, so perhaps you should give it some extra attention.  The vocabulary should be relatively easy for someone who knows Latin and other Romance languages.
Title: Re: I’m new to learning Portuguese
Post by: Fleur-de-Lys on July 02, 2020, 04:30:05 PM
Jayne,
Do you speak Portuguese?  :)

DueSicilie,
I don't have any general advice, but if you ever have any specific questions, Vetus Ordo and I speak Portuguese, and we would be happy to help you. Are you focusing on Brazilian or European?
Title: Re: I’m new to learning Portuguese
Post by: Fleur-de-Lys on July 02, 2020, 04:40:11 PM
I should add that Vetus Ordo is Portuguese. So he has native-speaker competence, but also the annoying habit of telling people they're wrong, when they're speaking perfectly correct Brazilian Portuguese!  :D
Title: Re: I’m new to learning Portuguese
Post by: Jayne on July 02, 2020, 04:59:14 PM
Quote from: Fleur-de-Lys on July 02, 2020, 04:30:05 PM
Jayne,
Do you speak Portuguese?  :)

I studied it a bit when my son married a woman of Portuguese descent.  I don't speak it, but I have some general knowledge of its linguistic features.
Title: Re: I’m new to learning Portuguese
Post by: Vetus Ordo on July 02, 2020, 05:26:00 PM
Quote from: Fleur-de-Lys on July 02, 2020, 04:40:11 PM
I should add that Vetus Ordo is Portuguese. So he has native-speaker competence, but also the annoying habit of telling people they're wrong, when they're speaking perfectly correct Brazilian Portuguese! :D

Consider it a spiritual work of mercy.
Title: Re: I’m new to learning Portuguese
Post by: Fleur-de-Lys on July 02, 2020, 05:54:33 PM
Quote from: Vetus Ordo on July 02, 2020, 05:26:00 PM
Quote from: Fleur-de-Lys on July 02, 2020, 04:40:11 PM
I should add that Vetus Ordo is Portuguese. So he has native-speaker competence, but also the annoying habit of telling people they're wrong, when they're speaking perfectly correct Brazilian Portuguese! :D

Consider it a spiritual work of mercy.

I warned you, dueSicilie. Also, his accent is impenetrable.
Title: Re: I’m new to learning Portuguese
Post by: Vetus Ordo on July 03, 2020, 10:55:39 PM
Quote from: Fleur-de-Lys on July 02, 2020, 05:54:33 PM
Quote from: Vetus Ordo on July 02, 2020, 05:26:00 PM
Quote from: Fleur-de-Lys on July 02, 2020, 04:40:11 PM
I should add that Vetus Ordo is Portuguese. So he has native-speaker competence, but also the annoying habit of telling people they're wrong, when they're speaking perfectly correct Brazilian Portuguese! :D

Consider it a spiritual work of mercy.

I warned you, dueSicilie. Also, his accent is impenetrable.

I.e., native.
Title: Re: I’m new to learning Portuguese
Post by: Fleur-de-Lys on July 04, 2020, 10:36:38 PM
Vetus, your accent is impenetrable even to natives. But it is very nice to listen to, even if I still don't always catch every word.
Title: Re: I’m new to learning Portuguese
Post by: dueSicilie on July 05, 2020, 01:29:22 PM
Hey!

European is my preference. I love the "sh" sound and dropping ending vowels to confuse people.

I started using Duolingo, and listening to a good podcast called Portuguese with Carla. It's confusing to memorize and differentiate the two differing pronunciations.
Title: Re: I’m new to learning Portuguese
Post by: dueSicilie on July 05, 2020, 01:30:34 PM
What's wrong with his accent? He's not Madeiran is he? I heard their accent is bad
Title: Re: I’m new to learning Portuguese
Post by: dueSicilie on July 05, 2020, 01:34:03 PM
Quote from: Vetus Ordo on July 02, 2020, 05:26:00 PM
Quote from: Fleur-de-Lys on July 02, 2020, 04:40:11 PM
I should add that Vetus Ordo is Portuguese. So he has native-speaker competence, but also the annoying habit of telling people they're wrong, when they're speaking perfectly correct Brazilian Portuguese! :D

Consider it a spiritual work of mercy.

;D  ;D ;D
Title: Re: I’m new to learning Portuguese
Post by: Fleur-de-Lys on July 05, 2020, 06:56:37 PM
Quote from: dueSicilie on July 05, 2020, 01:30:34 PM
What's wrong with his accent? He's not Madeiran is he? I heard their accent is bad

He is Madeiran!  :D

Quote from: dueSicilie on July 05, 2020, 01:29:22 PM
Hey!

European is my preference. I love the "sh" sound and dropping ending vowels to confuse people.

I started using Duolingo, and listening to a good podcast called Portuguese with Carla. It's confusing to memorize and differentiate the two differing pronunciations.

I wouldn't recommend trying to learn both varieties at the same time. It's needlessly confusing. They differ not only in pronunciation, but also to a lesser extent in vocabulary and grammar. Once you reach a certain level of competence in one, it's much easier to pick up the variations of the other. That has been my experience, Vetus' accent notwithstanding.
Title: Re: I’m new to learning Portuguese
Post by: dueSicilie on July 14, 2020, 08:39:40 AM
Brazilian sounds more like Spanish to me, in the ear. My favourite word is « pão de queijo »
Title: Re: I’m new to learning Portuguese
Post by: Greg on July 14, 2020, 10:46:04 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW_zi8n4HDQ

Have some Madeira my dear!