Quote from: Acts 3:14-2614 But you denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you. 15 But the author of life you killed, whom God hath raised from the dead, of which we are witnesses. 16 And in the faith of his name, this man, whom you have seen and known, hath his name strengthened; and the faith which is by him, hath given this perfect soundness in the sight of you all.
17 And now, brethren, I know that you did it through ignorance, as did also your rulers. 18 But those things which God before had shewed by the mouth of all the prophets, that his Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled. 19 Be penitent, therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out.
20 That when the times of refreshment shall come from the presence of the Lord, and he shall send him who hath been preached unto you, Jesus Christ, 21 Whom heaven indeed must receive, until the times of the restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of his holy prophets, from the beginning of the world. 22 For Moses said: A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me: him you shall hear according to all things whatsoever he shall speak to you. 23 And it shall be, that every soul which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people. 24 And all the prophets, from Samuel and afterwards, who have spoken, have told of these days.
25 You are the children of the prophets, and of the testament which God made to our fathers, saying to Abraham: And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed. 26 To you first God, raising up his Son, hath sent him to bless you; that every one may convert himself from his wickedness.
Quote from: Luke 13:3434 Jerusalem, Jerusalem, that killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent to thee, how often would I have gathered thy children as the bird doth her brood under her wings, and thou wouldest not?
Quote from: Matthew 3:88 Bring forth therefore fruit worthy of penance. 9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham for our father. For I tell you that God is able of these stones to raise up children to Abraham.
Quote from: Revelation 11:19, 12:119 And the temple of God was opened in heaven: and the ark of his testament was seen in his temple, and there were lightnings, and voices, and an earthquake, 12 and great hail. And a great sign appeared in heaven: A woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars:
Quote from: Luke 23:33-3433 And when they were come to the place which is called Calvary, they crucified him there; and the robbers, one on the right hand, and the other on the left. 34 And Jesus said: Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.
Quote from: dueSicilie on May 02, 2024, 06:21:26 PMTo be fair tarot cards are not inherently evil.
QuoteIt's no wonder the Orthodox have no interest in swimming the river when you have people who wax lyrical about the papacy but also think it's been vacant for 60 years, then start making stuff up about the praxis of those Easterns who've decided to stay loyal to Rome.
Quote from: Michael Wilson on May 02, 2024, 05:08:28 PMBonaventure,
I was just listening to the video that you posted; and while I tend to agree that being a schismatic in the formal sense of the word involves an act of the will; what that gentleman was describing viz: "an Orthodox person who accepted the Pope as the head of the Church"; was probably not a schismatic; I would have to disagree. To accept the Pope as head of the Church in the Orthodox sense, is to empty the office of its essence. Secondly he states that if a person is a member of an Orthodox Church, is he a schismatic? He responds: "Probably not"; there is no way of knowing this, since it involves the interior disposition of the soul, known only to God. Then he states (in support of the foregoing) that "we are allowed to venerate a number of post schism Orthodox saints": Yes, this is true, but only since Vatican II; while the Church has never said that everyone who does not die as an "actual" member of the Church will go to Hell; neither does she ever encourage people to have the idea that its O.K. To die outside the Church; in fact the contrary is the case (EENS). He admits that "before 1964 things were simpler"; right, both sides agree that there were two different religions and one was false and the other true; only one could be right.
The gentleman even goes on to state that an "Orthodox that does not hate the Church, has as much chance to save his soul and a Catholic does". So why try to convert the Orthodox to the true faith? The response from the Vatican since the Council is: "We don't try to convert them; in fact we prohibit any attempt to convert them (Treaty of Balamand). He goes on to practically say that both sides are equally guilty of the current state of affairs; which the Popes in the Past have condemned such statements, such as Pius XI in Mortalium Animus.
This gentleman is in good faith, but he has imbibed the "indiferentist" and "latitudinarian" spirit which the Council and the Conciliar Church are filled with and no longer has a firm grasp on the uniqueness of the Catholic Church as the sole custodian of truth and salvation.
Quote from: TradGranny on May 02, 2024, 11:36:14 AMNot Catholic but Protestant.