Fr. Paul Kramer - The Coming Schism

[King Wenceslas]

"Pope" Francis' Schism: Are you ready?

A manifest factual heretic is a "Pope". How long does this madness continue?

I suppose since he is in the SSPX he has to toe the party line.

[King Wenceslas]

@ 4:30 minutes:

Maniacal ideologue surrounded by maniacal yes men who are also ideologues.

In fact lets get right to the num of the matter. He (Francis) hates Roman Catholicism. He hates the Catholic faith as it was practiced down through the centuries. He is an arrogant, ignorant, revolutionary sitting on the chair of Peter. (Ed. Ferrara by his own words is describing Francis as being an anti-Pope.)

@ 8 minutes:

Francis is a party boss. He is the party of the revolution. Revanchism by the Jacobins. Synod is just camouflage for what Francis wants.

Ferrara: Reading the Pope is on heavy doses of steroids. Consistent with stage 4 cancer. Showing himself in a wheelchair. He's severely bloated. Effect of the steroids. Steroids at that level something very serious is going on.

Rumor is the restricting of the TLM to just Sundays for FSSP.

I rest my case.  Even the R&R types by their own words say that their Pope is an anti-Pope.

[DecemRationes]

The vital element in all of this, for me, is that Trad Catholics, both R & R and Sede, do not see this for what it is, and there is a lack of urgency. This is the dark army of the Apocalypse advancing. Period. This is the encircling of the camp of the saints mentioned in Apoc. 20.

The problem is that both R & R, and Sedes, are operating under the shadow of a different time, like the nonbelieving "Jews" of the Gospels and Pauline letters, clinging to the Old Covenant when the Messiah of the New walked among them, and after, when the apostles spread His truth.

According to their understanding of the Old Covenant, the law of Moses and its liturgical expression in the Levitical priesthood was "perpetual," and they saw not the Coming of the Chosen One.

He is coming again. We know this more clearly, and "see" better, profess it in our creeds, but we labor under a similar blindness, no, a dimming of sight, rather than a blindness.

The Sedes go so far as to deny what is happening by deceiving themselves that some five or six popes are not really popes, and the R & R by just chalking them up to being simply bad Papas.

The signs which are expressed through Francis show a happening in Rome, and in the Church that was commanded to spread the Gospel, which is unprecedented, truly according with what Christ warned:

Matthew 24:21

For there shall be then great tribulation, such as hath not been from the beginning of the world until now, neither shall be.

Never has the Church in its 2,000 plus years witnessed such unprecedented signs as the corresponding liturgical, doctrinal and disciplinary changes of the "Conciliar" Church. These "signs" are so extensive as to include the the actual giving away of the papal tiara up for sale for the poor by Paul VI . . . providing a rough analogy to Judas (another "son of perdition" - cf. John 17:12 with 2 Thessalonians 2) saying about the oil that Mary Magdeline used for anointing the Lord, "it could have been sold for the poor."

Let us all appreciate the urgency.

Off to my Rosary and prayers for mercy, which faileth not.

Signing off from my bunker,

DR

[Greg]

and there is a lack of urgency

After 60 years in the dessert this tends to happen.  Humans are human after all.  Staying alert and on your toes for decades is wearing.

What are we supposed to be urgent about?  When it happens, it happens.

[King Wenceslas]

Pope Francis taken to hospital with respiratory infection

Pope Francis has been diagnosed with a respiratory infection, according to the Vatican Press Office.

He was taken to The Gemelli University Hospital in Rome, where he will be required to stay for several days to receive "appropriate medical treatment," the press office said.

"In recent days Pope Francis complained of some respiratory difficulties and this afternoon he went to [Policlinico A.] the Gemelli [hospital]l for some medical checks," the statement read. "The outcome of these showed a respiratory infection (excluding Covid 19 infection) that will require several days of appropriate hospital medical treatment."

It is unknown what type of respiratory infection the pope has or what type of care he will need.

His time is getting closer and closer.

Then do the Cardinals appointed by JPII and Benedict do a quick council and election of a new pope before the "yes men" Cardinals appointed by Francis elect Francis II.

[Michael Wilson]

D.R.

According to their understanding of the Old Covenant, the law of Moses and its liturgical expression in the Levitical priesthood was "perpetual," and they saw not the Coming of the Chosen One.

The Jews knew that when the Messiah would come He would set up His new kingdom, and a new perpetual sacrifice, (Malachi 1:11)

""For from the rising of the sun even to the going down, my name is great among the Gentiles, and in every place there is sacrifice, and there is offered to my name a clean oblation: for my name is great among the Gentiles, saith the Lord of hosts."

In the present case of Catholicism, it is Our Lord who instituted a "New and Eternal Covenant"
 

The Sedes go so far as to deny what is happening by deceiving themselves that some five or six popes are not really popes, and the R & R by just chalking them up to being simply bad Papas.

It is of Catholic faith that the Pope cannot lead the church into error, sin or perdition.

The signs which are expressed through Francis show a happening in Rome, and in the Church that was commanded to spread the Gospel, which is unprecedented, truly according with what Christ warned:
Matthew 24:21
For there shall be then great tribulation, such as hath not been from the beginning of the world until now, neither shall be.
Never has the Church in its 2,000 plus years witnessed such unprecedented signs as the corresponding liturgical, doctrinal and disciplinary changes of the "Conciliar" Church. These "signs" are so extensive as to include the the actual giving away of the papal tiara up for sale for the poor by Paul VI . . . providing a rough analogy to Judas (another "son of perdition" - cf. John 17:12 with 2 Thessalonians 2) saying about the oil that Mary Magdeline used for anointing the Lord, "it could have been sold for the poor."
Let us all appreciate the urgency.
Off to my Rosary and prayers for mercy, which faileth not.

We still have bishops priests and laymen who profess and practice the true faith. The promises of Our Lord that He would be with His Church until the end of time; therefore that the Church would last until the end of the world.
Even if the end of the world is now upon us, we are still free to assist at Mass and go to Confession to Catholic priests.

[King Wenceslas]

Rome has become an alien to Christianity:

An Anglican bishop has triggered outrage after celebrating Mass in the Roman Rite at the Archbasilica of St. John Lateran — the official ecclesiastical seat of the pope as bishop of Rome.

Bishop Jonathan Baker, a suffragan bishop in the diocese of London, concelebrated the liturgy on Tuesday at what's known as the "mother of all the churches of Rome and of the world" with over 30 Anglican priests from the episcopal area of Fulham.

Pope Meets Anglican Prelates
Saint John Lateran supersedes St. Peter's Basilica in primacy, and despite the grandeur of St. Peter's (designated a "basilica" compared to the Lateran "archbasilica"), St. John's remains the cathedral church of the Roman pontiff.

The clerics from Fulham, a traditionalist Anglo-Catholic group that rejects the ordination of women, are in Rome at the Villa Palazzola for their clergy conference — an event held once every three years.

On Wednesday morning, Pope Francis met Bp. Baker and Bp. Glyn Webster, former bishop of Beverly, after the papal audience in St. Peter's Square. The clerics also visited the English College and were treated to a dinner and an after-dinner talk with Cdl. Gerhard Müller, former prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. 

Freemason Bishop
Baker triggered controversy in the Church of England after he was appointed bishop of Ebbsfleet in 2011 despite being an active and senior Freemason.

While a student at Oxford University, Baker joined the Apollo University Lodge, a masonic lodge associated with the university, and served as its "worshipful master." He held the senior position of deputy grand chaplain in the United Grand Lodge of England.

Baker's Freemason initiation ceremony involved vowing to keep the "secrets of Freemasonry," being blindfolded, wearing a hangman's noose and being warned that those who break the oaths of allegiance will have their throats slit and their tongues torn out before being buried in the sand.

The Mother Church of all Christianity none the less. Pure straight blasphemy. Right in the face of God.

If God does not intervene there will be a North American Catholic Church within 20 to 30 years.

How that comes about remains to be seen.

[Santantonio]

Jonathan Baker is not a Freemason anymore. Although he was a member of the Apollo Lodge, that is a matriculating Oxford student lodge, which is more of a fraternal society for Oxford students, but as he moved up the ranks of the Church of England, he did leave in an official manner. That is on his wiki page.

Baker and Webster are among the High Anglican, conservative wing in the Church of England. This rapproachment will ultimately lead to more Anglican Ordinariates and the Vatican stands to receive more parishes as traditionalists in the CoE refuse to attend "masses" and "sacraments" ministered by females. There is some level of cooperation between conservative CoE parishes and the Crown including Catholic priests celebrating Mass at CoE cathedrals.

Anyway, I just wanted you to know that an official APOLOGY with FORMAL CULPABILITY has been issued by Auxiliary Bishop Guerino Di Tora of Rome, who did this on his own accord. It has nothing to do with Francis. And, all in attendance were traditionalist Anglican "priests". Not a single canonical Catholic religious or layperson went to this Latin Rite mass performed by Anglicans for themselves:

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ROME (CNS)—A "breakdown in communication" led to permission being given to a group of Anglican clergy to celebrate the Eucharist in Rome's Basilica of St. John Lateran, said Auxiliary Bishop Guerino Di Tora of Rome, vicar for the basilica's chapter.

Anglican Bishop Jonathan Baker of Fulham, a suffragan bishop with responsibility for Anglo-Catholic parishes in the dioceses of London and Southwark that have requested not to be served by a woman priest or bishop, celebrated the liturgy April 18 as part of a conference in Rome for Anglo-Catholic clergy.

A statement April 20 from the Lateran Chapter said Bishop Di Tora "expresses deep regret for what happened last Tuesday, April 18, inside the Basilica of St. John in Rome. In fact, a group of about 50 priests, accompanied by their bishop, all belonging to the Anglican Communion, celebrated at the main altar of Rome's cathedral, contravening canonical norms."

Benedictine Father Martin Browne, an official at the Dicastery for Promoting Christian Unity, noted the apology, but said, "I also think that everyone acted in good faith and without any intent to cause offense or embarrassment to anyone else. That the celebration has caused comment is perhaps, above all else, a reminder of the need to pray continually for the Lord's gift of unity, so that all may one day celebrate at the same altar the saving mysteries of the one Lord."

The Vatican "Directory for the Application of Principles and Norms on Ecumenism" states that Catholic churches are "generally reserved for Catholic worship," Father Browne said in a statement April 20.

However, he said, "it does not rule out celebrations by communities not in full communion with the Catholic Church," although it does say that such hospitality can be offered when other Christians "do not have a place or the liturgical objects necessary for celebrating worthily their religious ceremonies."

While the visiting Anglicans could have celebrated at the Anglican parish in the center of Rome, Father Browne said the directory also encourages "a certain 'reciprocity' since sharing in spiritual activities and resources, even with defined limits, is a contribution, in a spirit of mutual good will and charity, to the growth of harmony among Christians."

"One presumes that the request was granted in that spirit of reciprocity, welcoming what was clearly an Anglican pilgrim group," he said. In the same way, "many of the great historical cathedrals of the Church of England occasionally welcome groups from other churches, including the Catholic Church, to celebrate the Eucharist and such hospitable gestures are always appreciated."

Still, he said, "it would have been more appropriate if this dicastery and other relevant entities of the Holy See had been involved in considering the request."

Father Browne also clarified that "the celebration took place in the apse, which was clearly roped off, with staff on duty throughout the celebration. No members of the public nor anybody else was present or nearby," so there was no chance that a pilgrim or tourist could have attended and thought it was a Catholic Mass.

https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2023/04/20/rome-basilica-apologizes-anglicans-celebrate-mass-245154

[Jmartyr]

I think the schism is already here. Slowly the faith of billion Catholics has been changed, just like in the reformation by the change of liturgical rites.

[Catholic Knight]

I think the schism is already here. Slowly the faith of billion Catholics has been changed, just like in the reformation by the change of liturgical rites.

Fr. Paul Kramer speaks of a formal schism.

[awkward customer]

Pope Francis taken to hospital with respiratory infection

Pope Francis has been diagnosed with a respiratory infection, according to the Vatican Press Office.

He was taken to The Gemelli University Hospital in Rome, where he will be required to stay for several days to receive "appropriate medical treatment," the press office said.

"In recent days Pope Francis complained of some respiratory difficulties and this afternoon he went to [Policlinico A.] the Gemelli [hospital]l for some medical checks," the statement read. "The outcome of these showed a respiratory infection (excluding Covid 19 infection) that will require several days of appropriate hospital medical treatment."

It is unknown what type of respiratory infection the pope has or what type of care he will need.

His time is getting closer and closer.

Then do the Cardinals appointed by JPII and Benedict do a quick council and election of a new pope before the "yes men" Cardinals appointed by Francis elect Francis II.

Francis II would be the 7th false Pope of the Revolt.

I wonder if the number 7 is significant somehow.

[AlNg]

I think the schism is already here.

Yes. AFAIK, schism is the refusal to submit to the authority of the Roman Pontiff and the hierarchy of the Church and we see that today. And we see a strong belief (but only by a few) in the heresy that the Catholic church can defect from its mission.

[Greg]

7th Pope?

I make it 6.

Unless you include Pius XII.

[awkward customer]

7th Pope?

I make it 6.

Unless you include Pius XII.

The six are - John 23rd, Paul 6th, John Paul I who died after 33 days, John Paul II, Benedict 16, Francis I.  That's six False Popes of the Revolt.

If there is a Francis II, which was the point I was replying to, he would be the seventh False Pope of the Revolt.

[Baylee]

Pope Francis taken to hospital with respiratory infection

Pope Francis has been diagnosed with a respiratory infection, according to the Vatican Press Office.

He was taken to The Gemelli University Hospital in Rome, where he will be required to stay for several days to receive "appropriate medical treatment," the press office said.

"In recent days Pope Francis complained of some respiratory difficulties and this afternoon he went to [Policlinico A.] the Gemelli [hospital]l for some medical checks," the statement read. "The outcome of these showed a respiratory infection (excluding Covid 19 infection) that will require several days of appropriate hospital medical treatment."

It is unknown what type of respiratory infection the pope has or what type of care he will need.

His time is getting closer and closer.

Then do the Cardinals appointed by JPII and Benedict do a quick council and election of a new pope before the "yes men" Cardinals appointed by Francis elect Francis II.

Francis II would be the 7th false Pope of the Revolt.

I wonder if the number 7 is significant somehow.

It's my understanding that 7 is a biblical number.  It's used quite a few times.  And it's meaning is "completion".  The 7th false pope would surely be a completion, wouldn't it?