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Offline christulsa

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Business Questions
« on: November 12, 2017, 11:26:21 PM »
Lifting my self-imposed 3 month ban early.   :)

Toying with an idea of starting an App to make extra $.

My questions:

1.  What is the best way to develop an App?  Hire someone online? Or local?  A good but inexpensive App that later I can easily upgrade.   Suggestions?

2.  The best way to spread it is through social media,  especially Facebook.   Any pointers?   Tips?   Clever methods?

3.  This could potentially go viral,  but get duplicated by a bigger fish up the food chain.   Get a patent for it?

Thanks in advance.  :cheeseheadbeer:
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Offline james03

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Re: Business Questions
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2017, 09:23:54 AM »
I can answer "1".  At the Tulsa University they have a JUG (Java Users Group), google it.  Attend their meeting and tell them you are looking for coders that can code a smart phone.  Ask if they know anyone who might be interested.  Tell them they will be paid $XXXX, and they can do it on their own time.  Ask to see samples of his work before you select a coder.

In the meantime, write a project document with an overview section, and then a detailed section.  Capture/describe as much functionality in the document.  If you want to make your coder happy, describe error situations and how the app is to respond to it (e.g. username blank when "Enter" button selected, display error pop up.)  Error traps are oftentimes over 50% of the code, so spend time coming up with a table of errors and responses.  Next use a graphics program to make the various screens (this is not the finished project, but used to assist the coder).  The more work you do in prep, the better.  Copyright the design document, then also prepare a license document saying the coder is allowed to use it for developing the app, and that he must destroy all copies after the project.

Also prepare a contract with  non-compete, non-disclosure clauses, and that all work produced is your property in exchange for the payment you agree to.
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"If what they are saying is true, the problem is not that they are the ones saying it: the problem is that we are not the ones saying it."
 
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Offline christulsa

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Re: Business Questions
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2017, 05:35:46 PM »
I can answer "1".  At the Tulsa University they have a JUG (Java Users Group), google it.  Attend their meeting and tell them you are looking for coders that can code a smart phone.  Ask if they know anyone who might be interested.  Tell them they will be paid $XXXX, and they can do it on their own time.  Ask to see samples of his work before you select a coder.

In the meantime, write a project document with an overview section, and then a detailed section.  Capture/describe as much functionality in the document.  If you want to make your coder happy, describe error situations and how the app is to respond to it (e.g. username blank when "Enter" button selected, display error pop up.)  Error traps are oftentimes over 50% of the code, so spend time coming up with a table of errors and responses.  Next use a graphics program to make the various screens (this is not the finished project, but used to assist the coder).  The more work you do in prep, the better.  Copyright the design document, then also prepare a license document saying the coder is allowed to use it for developing the app, and that he must destroy all copies after the project.

Also prepare a contract with  non-compete, non-disclosure clauses, and that all work produced is your property in exchange for the payment you agree to.

Great advise James.   I thought of TU students,  cheaper.

Cheapest way to copywright the design?   License it?

Hope to spend under $1K for a simple, nice app that works but can be upgraded.   Then pay FB to market it.   Maybe hire someone to market it.   TU business department might be a resource for info.   Local,  non-profit organizations to help entrepreneurs, specifically for starting an App.   Whatever you'd call that kind of business.
 

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Re: Business Questions
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2017, 05:47:25 PM »
Realistically, it typically doesn't end well for folks who start a business who don't know a lick about it.
 

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Re: Business Questions
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2017, 10:24:17 PM »
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Type on each sheet:  "Copyright 2017 by Chris Tulsa.  All rights reserved."
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Re: Business Questions
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2017, 01:19:23 AM »
Realistically, it typically doesn't end well for folks who start a business who don't know a lick about it.

Bought some fresh pork rinds today from the Mexican market. Gonna make Christulsa's famous Pork Rind Nachos for dinner tomorrow night.





 

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Re: Business Questions
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2017, 03:02:52 AM »
Wow! Neat! I've never heard of pork rinds nachos before. So they would be called in Spanish "nachos chicharrones" or "nachos de chicharrón."
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Re: Business Questions
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2017, 10:52:29 PM »
The reality of business is that the product almost never matters, the success or failure comes from the marketing and networking.  You can create the best product but if you do not already have a very strong network to market it through, you will only sell one (to your mom).  But if you have a strong network of influential people who you've helped in the past and can call in a favor to promote your product, then you can sell a bunch of total garbage at high prices.  There is simply too many things out there to buy, the competition is beyond anything imaginable - the scarce resource is the powerful networks of influential people whom Average Joes look to in order to figure out how to live their lives and what to buy.

It's all about networking.  No network, don't even bother.